Ammunition loading times

[JervisBay]

Let's take a typical battleship.......say, for the sake of argument, the Wyoming.....but this example may apply right across the board.

(I am using a BB example because the ammunition is not cased - the shell and cordite charges are separate items).

 

It takes 30 seconds to reload the ammunition after a gun has been fired.

Yet it only takes 14 seconds to change from one type to the other (AP to HE or vice versa) if the player decides on a snap-change before firing.

 

The fact that it takes longer to reload than it does to change the type of shell confounds me. There is something not quite right with this.

 

For a crew to remove the cordite charge and then the shell (extricating a shell wasn't a simple matter because once that thing was rammed up into the breech there wasn't a rammer at the other end to push it back!) and then load the other type of shell and then reload the cordite charge must have taken a damned sight longer than 14 seconds.

 

So to my way of thinking the time taken to swap the type of ammunition that is already loaded should be longer - not shorter -  than that for a reload after firing.

[toinkove]

because it's a game, otherwise I would expect it to take at least as long!

[1nc0mp3t3nt_1]

Let's take a typical battleship.......say, for the sake of argument, the Wyoming.....but this example may apply right across the board.

(I am using a BB example because the ammunition is not cased - the shell and cordite charges are separate items).

 

It takes 30 seconds to reload the ammunition after a gun has been fired.

Yet it only takes 14 seconds to change from one type to the other (AP to HE or vice versa) if the player decides on a snap-change before firing.

 

The fact that it takes longer to reload than it does to change the type of shell confounds me. There is something not quite right with this.

 

For a crew to remove the cordite charge and then the shell (extricating a shell wasn't a simple matter because once that thing was rammed up into the breech there wasn't a rammer at the other end to push it back!) and then load the other type of shell and then reload the cordite charge must have taken a damned sight longer than 14 seconds.

 

So to my way of thinking the time taken to swap the type of ammunition that is already loaded should be longer - not shorter -  than that for a reload after firing.

 

that only happens when you select the captain skill that halves the reload time when switching ammo types.

 

still processing, but I just threw this up right after seeing your post to demoinstrate

[Argh_My_Liver]

Umm the only time it is quicker to switch ammo is if you have the relevant captain skill. Otherwise there is no difference.

[CommodoreKang]

If it took longer, you'd just always fire the salvo.  This allows for tictacs.

[Macabe]

On a ship w/o captain with skills. There's no difference.

[JervisBay]

Well in that case the Captain's Skill is skewed the wrong way.

The skill should reduce the loading time between firings, not the time to unload/new load.

 

Don't get me wrong....I play BBs predominantly and love that class but this just seems to be screwy.......whether it's just a game or not.

 

As we say Down Under....they've got it a.r.s.e-about-face.

[JervisBay]

If it took longer, you'd just always fire the salvo.  This allows for tictacs.

Exactly!

[Tedster_]

it's because WG thinks HE ammo is supposed to do meaningful damage to ships.

[toinkove]

so basically you're advocating the skill shouldn't exist. No problem, though many will disagree, I was just trying to point out this is game not a true to life simulator. There must be some reason they put the skill in and I can say I've found it very nice to have at times.

[Argh_My_Liver]

Do many people even take this skill?

[toinkove]

Do many people even take this skill?

 

prolly depends on the ship type, I find it very useful in cruisers!

[Special_Kay]

I would be in favour of scrapping this skill and getting something else on the commander tree instead.

[JervisBay]

it's because WG thinks HE ammo is supposed to do meaningful damage to ships.

 

It does....that is for certain.

I check to see how many BBs are in a battle whilst waiting for the game to start.

If less than 4 then I start will HE and it is certainly effective against CAs and DDs.

[Takamachi_Nanoha_sg]

Historically yes maybe...but this is a game, don't take it too much...

Anyway I don't think anyone would use that skill though...maybe they can think a way to rework it

[JervisBay]

so basically you're advocating the skill shouldn't exist. No problem, though many will disagree, I was just trying to point out this is game not a true to life simulator. There must be some reason they put the skill in and I can say I've found it very nice to have at times.

 

No...not really.

I was just puzzled by it.

But it would make more sense if it took at least as long as a normal reload.

[toinkove]

well I've never fired any naval artillery but your logic seems sound. I've always just assumed it was a "skill" not rooted in any kind of reality.

[1nc0mp3t3nt_1]

Well in that case the Captain's Skill is skewed the wrong way.

The skill should reduce the loading time between firings, not the time to unload/new load.

 

Don't get me wrong....I play BBs predominantly and love that class but this just seems to be screwy.......whether it's just a game or not.

 

As we say Down Under....they've got it a.r.s.e-about-face.

if they did it the other way, it would become easily exploitable and then you would have battleships firing just a little slower than 200mm+ cruisers. that would break the battleship class

 

 

[Sir_Godz]

Do many people even take this skill?

 

No because it's worthless.

 

Just shoot the volley already loaded and reload with desired type. Every shot can do damage and even AP can do big damage at bad angles like knocking out a turret or detonating any USN cruiser.

 

Easily the most useless capt skill they have along with everything at level 5 other than concealment. Even the manual secondaries is misplaced at lvl 5. Only a amputated handful of ships have secondaries that could justify even trying this.

 

Notser did a good detailed review after the capt skill reset.