7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #1 Posted March 28, 2016 Now we have the Russian Cruisers. Look at their design/built year shown in game. Each tier starting from tier V Kirov, the Russian Cruiser is a least 10 years later than other nations. Especially at VIII, IX, X ships. I just wonder how can a ship compete her opponent which is designed 10~15 years later as same tier? All the ships except Russian cruisers were built/designed before/during WWII and around same time at each tier. Yet all the Russians tier VIII IX X ships were cold-war ships. Tier X Moskva is designed in 1953, if really built, it will enter service at least later than 1955. USN has guided missile cruisers in 1955. WG, if there are not many real Russian ships, why would you even add such a tree, with half of its ships were designed only? How can you just throw bunch of post WWII ships, cold war ships into this WWII warships gaming and make the game based on REAL Data? If you want to have cold war ships, just add them to all the nations. Make CAG-1 Boston as USN tier X ship. It has Guided missile early in 1955. WWII ships do not want to engage cold war designed ship as same tier!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56 Battleship_SovetskySoyuz Members 1,023 posts 260 battles Report post #2 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Whut. I want Project 81 added the Russian cruiser line(I'm not being serious). Edited March 28, 2016 by Battleship_SovetskySoyuz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 [REKT] LemonGem3021668 Beta Testers 47 posts 12,348 battles Report post #3 Posted March 28, 2016 Era does not equate to superiority. Take Japanese tank development for example. The cold war era Type 74 which wasn't completed until the 70s was only equal to tanks like the Leopard 1 and AMX 30 some 20 years earlier. Another example, this time from World of Warships. The tier X Zao was a 1940 Heavy Cruiser project, whereas the Des Moines was a post war development of the Baltimore. Now, do you see people crying for the Japanese to get Kongo Class DDGs so they can have equal and greater technology? No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 Kaystonian8283 Members 210 posts 1,188 battles Report post #4 Posted March 28, 2016 Why not have nuclear powered ships so that evertime I get cit I go nuclear a 1 shot kill everyone in the game, or let's have a god mode too!!!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,605 [HINON] Nuk_ Beta Testers 3,931 posts 8,150 battles Report post #5 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) So just because it was built at a later period means it's better? By that logic, you're saying the Bogue is better than the Lexington because it was built after. And guided missiles? Try playing the Russian ships before calling them OP. Edited March 28, 2016 by Nuk_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #6 Posted March 28, 2016 Yep, because we all know the date a ship was designed is the one and only factor in how a ship performs... /s WG, if there are not many real Russian ships, why would you even add such a tree, with half of its ships were designed only I don't see you whining about the German cruiser line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #7 Posted March 28, 2016 Why not have nuclear powered ships so that evertime I get cit I go nuclear a 1 shot kill everyone in the game, or let's have a god mode too!!!! Tier X Torpedo spam and DD invi firing are already God - Mode 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #8 Posted March 28, 2016 Yep, because we all know the date a ship was designed is the one and only factor in how a ship performs... /s I don't see you whining about the German cruiser line. Because they are designed in the same era as others. And the line has less paper ships than Russian Line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56 Battleship_SovetskySoyuz Members 1,023 posts 260 battles Report post #9 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Why not have nuclear powered ships so that evertime I get cit I go nuclear a 1 shot kill everyone in the game, or let's have a god mode too!!!! I got you fam. Edited March 28, 2016 by Battleship_SovetskySoyuz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,626 The_GoDDfather Beta Testers 4,982 posts 6,249 battles Report post #10 Posted March 28, 2016 Tier X Torpedo spam and DD invi firing are already God - Mode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,605 [HINON] Nuk_ Beta Testers 3,931 posts 8,150 battles Report post #11 Posted March 28, 2016 Because they are designed in the same era as others. And the line has less paper ships than Russian Line There's literally one less paper ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
665 FallenZulu Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,837 posts 3,359 battles Report post #12 Posted March 28, 2016 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
780 GoldPile Alpha Tester 1,914 posts 8,490 battles Report post #13 Posted March 28, 2016 Wave motion guns plox. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 Kaystonian8283 Members 210 posts 1,188 battles Report post #14 Posted March 28, 2016 Tier X Torpedo spam and DD invi firing are already God - Mode Lol not even close that just whining especially since everyone has the ability to choose acquisition as well as I'm pretty sure 9-10 ships can equip an acquisition equipment or concealment equipment so that gives you anywhere from 20-40 increase to what you can see coming. So Torps are not an issue except to those who just don't pay attention Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #15 Posted March 28, 2016 Tier X Torpedo spam and DD invi firing are already God - Mode Yep, the most underperforming class is "god-mode". And you have no way of seeing for yourself, of course, because your highest tier destroyer is a Sampson. Because they are designed in the same era as others. And the line has less paper ships than Russian Line Design is literally the worst statistic for ship performance possible, and they basically have the same number of paper ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #16 Posted March 28, 2016 Yep, the most underperforming class is "god-mode". And you have no way of seeing for yourself, of course, because your highest tier destroyer is a Sampson. Design is literally the worst statistic for ship performance possible, and they basically have the same number of paper ships. You dont even have any tier X ships, so you are very convincing. I dont play DD does not mean that invi firing is not God mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #17 Posted March 28, 2016 Lol not even close that just whining especially since everyone has the ability to choose acquisition as well as I'm pretty sure 9-10 ships can equip an acquisition equipment or concealment equipment so that gives you anywhere from 20-40 increase to what you can see coming. So Torps are not an issue except to those who just don't pay attention You highest tier is tier VIII so you may never experience 4 shima on the other side of the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,454 battles Report post #18 Posted March 28, 2016 If we're going to use time periods into account, the USS Ranger is far older than the USS Bogue and USS Independence. Maybe we should move the USS Ranger to Tier 5 and the Bogue to Tier 7? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #19 Posted March 28, 2016 If we're going to use time periods into account, the USS Ranger is far older than the USS Bogue and USS Independence. Maybe we should move the USS Ranger to Tier 5 and the Bogue to Tier 7? Bogue is CVE not CV, it is an carrier escort. They are different class Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
445 Deathskyz Members 495 posts 12 battles Report post #20 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Bogue is CVE not CV, it is an carrier escort. They are different class Russian Cruisers are a CLs not CA, they are light cruiser. They are different class The Erie was launched in 1936 and so she should be a Tier 6 ship since the Cleveland was launched in 1941, the Omaha was launched in 1920 so its perfect balance for her to be tier 6 because she was designed and made past WW1. Edited March 28, 2016 by Deathskyz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #21 Posted March 28, 2016 Bogue is CVE not CV, it is an carrier escort. They are different class Boston is a CAG not CA, it is a guided missile cruiser. They are different class Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,454 battles Report post #22 Posted March 28, 2016 Bogue is CVE not CV, it is an carrier escort. They are different class So then it depends on what type of ship they are and their capabilities, dessho? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 Kaystonian8283 Members 210 posts 1,188 battles Report post #23 Posted March 28, 2016 You highest tier is tier VIII so you may never experience 4 shima on the other side of the team. lol my highest tier on that account you mean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #24 Posted March 28, 2016 Russian Cruisers are a CLs not CA, they are light cruiser. They are different class The Erie was launched in 1936 and so she should be a Tier 6 ship since the Cleveland was launched in 1941, the Omaha was launched in 1920 so its perfect balance for her to be tier 6 because she was designed and made past WW1. You are very smart. If you think the higher tier cruisers are well balanced, then its good for you. I am not as smart as you and I do not see Kutuzov is a well balanced ship at tier VIII. I also feel Budyommy will dominate at tier VI. The Moskva gun and its range are way powerful than other cruisers. So their advantages are related closely to their design era and design concept. Thats it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [DKM] ipxNOOB Members 43 posts 5,671 battles Report post #25 Posted March 28, 2016 lol my highest tier on that account you mean Yep, if that account has a 48.88 win rate. Why bother to see other accounts? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
