Bogatyr.. Tier III? Really?

[anonym_JEJgAhN5LeMR]

Wonder why they didn't want to have a PT?

 

Maybe because people would see ahead of time how OP some of the new cruisers are?   Or the seal clubbers would get time to practice and sharpen the nails on their clubs?  LOL.

 

Never even took this ship out for training and in the first two matches I got 130K damage and 5 kills!   This game below was mostly against T4 ships as well.

 

It's like the St. Louis on 'roids. 

 

EDIT:  fixed XP for damage

 

[Marcanbus_NA]

It is OP as *** but it's only tier 3 so i don't really mind

[Submarine_Wahoo]

I have heard that the Kirov has a mixed reception, Dmitri Donskoi is a citadel on steroids, and Moskva isn't all that great.

[Red_Raven_168]

if you can handle moon shots - she shines

 

if you can't handle moon shots - she's the worst ship since ---- submarines

[Marcanbus_NA]

if you can handle moon shots - she shines

 

if you can't handle moon shots - she's the worst ship since ---- submarines

 

the arc is not bad at all

 

have you played the Kolberg?

[Hangoverhomey]

 

the arc is not bad at all

 

have you played the Kolberg?

 

or the Aurora.... The shell arc on the Bogey is very useable and it hits very hard, lights fires like crazy too.  It's fun but it's also just OP as hell. 

 

Seal clubbers rejoice.

[HMCS_Devilfish]

Don't worry if you get to full of yourself , they will nerf you, Premium or not

[Red_Raven_168]

 

the arc is not bad at all

 

you don't say

http://wowreplays.com/Replay/2626-Red_Raven_168-Bogatyr-Islands

[DeathLord1969]

Wait, 130,000 xp in 2 matches in a T3????

[Marcanbus_NA]

I just made a poll

[Shadowrigger1]

Wonder why they didn't want to have a PT?

 

Maybe because people would see ahead of time how OP some of the new cruisers are?   Or the seal clubbers would get time to practice and sharpen the nails on their clubs?  LOL.

 

Never even took this ship out for training and in the first two matches I got 130K xp and 5 kills!   This game below was mostly against T4 ships as well.

 

It's like the St. Louis on 'roids. 

 

 

You just wait, the pain is soon to find your Rectum

[FratStar4Life]

You have a total of 2 games in the ship and you are screaming for a nerf... Enjoy your seal clubbing 

 

[Red_Raven_168]

 

Those moon shots are one of the best things about it.   You can lob 10 shells over almost any island in the game.  It's a blast

 

yes, sometimes the guns do cooperate - other times they insist upon sinking that nasty island

 

but the point is . . . some players simply can't cope with high arc guns.

[Marcanbus_NA]

 

Won't find mine.  two more matches and I'll be out of this into the Svietlana.  I don't plan on keeping any of these ships.

 

good luck with that piece of garbage

[Red_Raven_168]

 

Won't find mine.  two more matches and I'll be out of this into the Svietlana.  I don't plan on keeping any of these ships.

 

Sweetlandia has her moments too --- and that same high arc

 

with some torpedoes for party favors

[Argh_My_Liver]

Kinda funny to see people complain about only 1 ship being OP when a month ago those same people were complaining about how the whole line was going to be OP 

 

[Red_Raven_168]

Kinda funny to see people complain . . . when a month ago those same people were complaining

 

welcome to the interweb

[FratStar4Life]

Actually, now that I think about it the ship should be nerfed. When average players are able to perform above and beyond their skill level then it is clearly the ship that is having the largest influence on the game. 

[Lert]

It's very soft though. The citadel isn't easy to hit, but it barely has armor anywhere other than the belt so it's easy to kill and gets wrecked by HE.

 

Yeah in the hands on a good player a Bogatyr can bring enormous amounts of pain. But in the hands of a bad player it's just fodder. It has a higher skill floor as well as ceiling than the St Louis, in which even the worst player can still do reasonably well because it's just more difficult to kill.

 

The above though counts for a 'normal' player in a Bogatyr. Once you add AFT and BFT into the mix - which the average player just on their way through won't be using - then the argument that she's ridiculously OP might hold merit, but then you're talking about people who knows and understand the game and play that low tier with that trained a captain on purpose, and would do better in Boggy B than the 'average' player anyways.

 

Finally, I trust server statistics a lot more than a player poll on the forums, especially since the average skill of players on the forums is inherently higher than that of Joe Public. After all, the fact that they come to the forums to begin with shows a willingness to do more than just drive in circles holding leftclick, and are thus likely to have learned how to play better.

 

Is Boggy B OP? Eh, an argument could be made. I'd love to see server wide or global performance stats before calling it though.

 

Put it this way: Do you, in your OP Bogatyr, wade hip deep through sinking and burning opposing Bogatyrs? I do. Wouldn't that mean that it's the player instead of the ship, and the ship just allows for a higher skill ceiling?

[Goose21891]

[MrDeaf]

 

or the Aurora.... The shell arc on the Bogey is very useable and it hits very hard, lights fires like crazy too.  It's fun but it's also just OP as hell. 

 

Seal clubbers rejoice.

 

which is funny, because Boggy has the same stock guns as Aurora, and the 130mm upgrade guns are only 0.5s to 0.8s quicker to reach their target.

[Canadatron]

It's very soft though. The citadel isn't easy to hit, but it barely has armor anywhere other than the belt so it's easy to kill and gets wrecked by HE.

 

Yeah in the hands on a good player a Bogatyr can bring enormous amounts of pain. But in the hands of a bad player it's just fodder. It has a higher skill floor as well as ceiling than the St Louis, in which even the worst player can still do reasonably well because it's just more difficult to kill.

 

The above though counts for a 'normal' player in a Bogatyr. Once you add AFT and BFT into the mix - which the average player just on their way through won't be using - then the argument that she's ridiculously OP might hold merit, but then you're talking about people who knows and understand the game and play that low tier with that trained a captain on purpose, and would do better in Boggy B than the 'average' player anyways.

 

Finally, I trust server statistics a lot more than a player poll on the forums, especially since the average skill of players on the forums is inherently higher than that of Joe Public. After all, the fact that they come to the forums to begin with shows a willingness to do more than just drive in circles holding leftclick, and are thus likely to have learned how to play better.

 

Is Boggy B OP? Eh, an argument could be made. I'd love to see server wide or global performance stats before calling it though.

 

Put it this way: Do you, in your OP Bogatyr, wade hip deep through sinking and burning opposing Bogatyrs? I do. Wouldn't that mean that it's the player instead of the ship, and the ship just allows for a higher skill ceiling?

 

I'm 100% with Lerticus Maximus. It's a mix of good players returning to low tier play to grind these ships up combine with it being a decent ship. I've seen it in quite a few battles and some people are great in it and others are a disaster, no different than any other ship frankly. Give it time to shake out and see what the data mine comes up with. If it's OP they will adjust, they did with the Kiev, no?

[Hangoverhomey]

 

which is funny, because Boggy has the same stock guns as Aurora, and the 130mm upgrade guns are only 0.5s to 0.8s quicker to reach their target.

 

I run the 130mm and it's worlds easier to hit ships on the move at long range than in my aurora.  I should know because I have had the Aurora for ages and around 200,000xp in it.

[Canadatron]

I really should just get it. I love the 130s on all my Russian 'stroyas so I'd imagine I'd translate some of my 40% hit rate with them to the Bogatyr's battery.

[giovybez]

The Boga is weird. With the 150s she's terrible, with the 130s she's OP.