historically, does russia have battleships?

[zackcorcoran]

historically, does russia have battleships?

[Sturmkurz]

Yep. Russia did have a few 

[Guest]

Not many, but definitely a few, most of their more ambitious designs never came to fruition, but even then, they did have some. 

 

[Macabe]

A few. Not many. They have a lot of blueprints though.

[BrushWolf]

Pre-Dreadnaught they had a good number. Post Dreadnaught not many.

[Guest]

A few. Not many. They have a lot of blueprints though.

 

Indeed, the Soviet Union had plans for quite the large naval force, though war, and invasion ruined most of them from becoming a thing. 

[Justsomerandomguy_123]

They does have.

 

- A bunch of pre-dreadnoughts.

- 4 Gangut dreadnoughts.

- 3 Imperatritsa Mariya dreadnoughts.

- 4 planned and laid down Izmail battlecruisers.

- A bunch of missing "Big Seven" dreadnought projects, can be found here.

- Pr.69 Kronshtadt-class battlecruiser, the hull was laid down but never completed.

- Pr.82 post-war "Uncle Stalin" Stalingrad-battlecruiser (the design is inspired from Pr.66 "Moskva" heavy-cruiser, Stalin want more bigger guns so he take the idea, creating the newer Pr.82).

- Pr.23 Sovietsky Soyuz, Stalin 5 star hotel rival in Yamato size, superior than Bismarck-class and equivalent to Iowa-class.

- Pr.21 Soviet "Nelson" 35K tons battleship.

- Kostenko 1936 battleship, can fire at all direction and quite unique design.

 

Blah blah, only Gangut-class and Mariya-class are actually complete and commissioned. Other are laid down, never complete or remain as papers.

[El_Judarino]

A few. Not many. They have a lot of blueprints though.

 

They're kinda in the same place as the Dutch, every time they got serious about battleship construction, a world war would break out.

 

It's probably a good thing that they aren't interested in building any new battleships right now .

[Sturmkurz]

 

They're kinda in the same place as the Dutch, every time they got serious about battleship construction, a world war would break out.

 

It's probably a good thing that they aren't interested in building any new battleships right now .

Of course Battleships are rendered useless due to missiles and carriers.

[El_Judarino]

Of course Battleships are rendered useless due to missiles and carriers.

 

Yes, they are, however, slightly less obsolete than my sense of humor... which failed to properly deliver the joke as you just demonstrated *le sigh*

[Guest]

They does have.

 

- A bunch of pre-dreadnoughts.

- 4 Gangut dreadnoughts.

- 3 Imperatritsa Mariya dreadnoughts.

- 4 planned and laid down Izmail battlecruisers.

- A bunch of missing "Big Seven" dreadnought projects, can be found here.

- Pr.69 Kronshtadt-class battlecruiser, the hull was laid down but never completed.

- Pr.82 post-war "Uncle Stalin" Stalingrad-battlecruiser (the design is inspired from Pr.66 "Moskva" heavy-cruiser, Stalin want more bigger guns so he take the idea, creating the newer Pr.82).

- Pr.23 Sovietsky Soyuz, Stalin 5 star hotel rival in Yamato size, superior than Bismarck-class and equivalent to Iowa-class.

- Pr.21 Soviet "Nelson" 35K tons battleship.

- Kostenko 1936 battleship, can fire at all direction and quite unique design.

 

Blah blah, only Gangut-class and Mariya-class are actually complete and commissioned. Other are laid down, never complete or remain as papers.

 

Soviet Nelson style? that sounds interesting, I wonder why other nations tried to copy the design, I never did truly understand why. 

[Guest]

Of course Battleships are rendered useless due to missiles and carriers.

Truly, until something amazing happens, something to balance the field against missiles, such as railguns, or the advent of space-warfare, battleships will be a piece of history, and nothing more.

[Wolcott]

 

Indeed, the Soviet Union had plans for quite the large naval force, though war, and invasion ruined most of them from becoming a thing. 

 

Ironic because the Soviets in turn ruined the Imperial Russian Navy's future plans thru revolution and civil war.

[BrushWolf]

Post Russo-Japanese War up through WWII the Russian navy was very much a cruiser & DD navy, the few BB's they had were badly outdated.

[giovybez]

So we may never see a full Russian tech tree.

 

Speaking of full tech trees, were there other countries with carriers other than US and Japan?

[BrushWolf]

So we may never see a full Russian tech tree.

 

 

Speaking of full tech trees, were there other countries with carriers other than US and Japan?

 

We will but it will be filled with paper designs.

[poeticmotion]

So we may never see a full Russian tech tree.

 

 

Speaking of full tech trees, were there other countries with carriers other than US and Japan?

Sigh. I recommend reading the tech tree subforum and doing some research. Thing called the internet. Amazing. 

 

Royal Navy had a very impressive line of CVs. Many more countries had CVs in WWII era because much lower barrier to entry than modern-day supercarriers that only a few top-tier nations can afford to build, but RN definitely has enough for a full tech tree, and several other countries can fill out a CV line if willing to accept several paper designs. 

 

You will see a full Russian tech tree because they have the designs. Almost the whole Russian cruiser line was made from 'paper ships' that were designed but never built, BBs won't be any different. 

[giovybez]

That's fine by me.

 

Just did a quick search. During WWII France, Germany, Italy and the UK also had carriers.

 

 

edit:

 

lol I used the internet. Thanks for that info tho. Appreciated.

[poeticmotion]

They does have.

 

- A bunch of pre-dreadnoughts.

- 4 Gangut dreadnoughts.

- 3 Imperatritsa Mariya dreadnoughts.

- 4 planned and laid down Izmail battlecruisers.

- A bunch of missing "Big Seven" dreadnought projects, can be found here.

- Pr.69 Kronshtadt-class battlecruiser, the hull was laid down but never completed.

- Pr.82 post-war "Uncle Stalin" Stalingrad-battlecruiser (the design is inspired from Pr.66 "Moskva" heavy-cruiser, Stalin want more bigger guns so he take the idea, creating the newer Pr.82).

- Pr.23 Sovietsky Soyuz, Stalin 5 star hotel rival in Yamato size, superior than Bismarck-class and equivalent to Iowa-class.

- Pr.21 Soviet "Nelson" 35K tons battleship.

- Kostenko 1936 battleship, can fire at all direction and quite unique design.

 

Blah blah, only Gangut-class and Mariya-class are actually complete and commissioned. Other are laid down, never complete or remain as papers.

 

The Kostenko appears to be entirely fictional; I can't find anything on internet about her other than the pic you linked to on DeviantArt which is a less than credible source. Any other sources for that ship?

[atPrick__]

No.

The Soviet Union never fielded a "modern" Battleship.

 

The closest thing was the Royal Sovereign.

[Xero_Snake]

Saying the USSR cruiser line is almost full of "blueprint" ships is said by a person who don't bother looking into it, ironically. Were Novik, Bogatyr, Svetlana, Kirov, Chapayev and Sverdlov (Mikhail Kutuzov) paper ships?

 

As for battleships, indeed they do have.

 

Built:

Gangut/Sevastopol

Imperatristsa Mariya

 

Half-built:

Imperator Nikolai I

Izmail/Borodino

Sovetsky Soyuz

Kronshtadt

Stalingrad

 

Never got out of drawing board:

Project 24 (postwar Super-Sovetsky Soyuz that could match Yamato and H-class)

Small Battleship Project TsNII-45

Project 25 (light battleship to counter Scharnhorst)

Project 21 (preliminary Sovetsky Soyuz project design largely resembled Nelson-class)

4 design candidates of Imperial Russian Black Sea Battleship Project / Project GUK

 

Feel free to join the discussions for now, while I'm currently creating 2 new threads to overhaul the existing one here, latest by the 1st weekend of April:

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/52137-russiansoviet-vmf-battleships-battlecruisers-line-discussions/page__st__360#topmost

 

[Justsomerandomguy_123]

 

The Kostenko appears to be entirely fictional; I can't find anything on internet about her other than the pic you linked to on DeviantArt which is a less than credible source. Any other sources for that ship?

 

Actually is real paper projects, use search button wasn't enough huh?

 

This should help you.

[Xannari]

Typically Russia is not who you're gonna be looking to for battleships, but you wont exactly leave dissapointed. If you want battleships, you're likely gonna go to Japan.

[atPrick__]

Saying the USSR cruiser line is almost full of "blueprint" ships is said by a person who don't bother looking into it, ironically. Were Novik, Bogatyr, Svetlana, Kirov, Chapayev and Sverdlov (Mikhail Kutuzov) paper ships?

 

As for battleships, indeed they do have.

 

Built:

Gangut/Sevastopol

Imperatristsa Mariya

 

Half-built:

Imperator Nikolai I

Izmail/Borodino

Sovetsky Soyuz

Kronshtadt

Stalingrad

 

Never got out of drawing board:

Project 24 (postwar Super-Sovetsky Soyuz that could match Yamato and H-class)

Small Battleship Project TsNII-45

Project 25 (light battleship to counter Scharnhorst)

Project 21 (preliminary Sovetsky Soyuz project design largely resembled Nelson-class)

4 design candidates of Imperial Russian Black Sea Battleship Project / Project GUK

 

Feel free to join the discussions for now, while I'm currently creating 2 new threads to overhaul the existing one here, latest by the 1st weekend of April:

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/52137-russiansoviet-vmf-battleships-battlecruisers-line-discussions/page__st__360#topmost

 

 

you know what five half built ships are?

 

Nothing.

 

 

[Pirabee]

...Umm, the battleship Potemkin?