34 python_vs_ruby Members 409 posts 5,504 battles Report post #1 Posted March 25, 2016 THE THING HAS 5 SQUADS OF THREE! And it has a balanced strike config, like the IJNs, it's strike is 2 squads of 3 (6) fighters, 3 squads of 3(9) torpedo bombers!, and they are USN strength! 3 torpedo's are easy to land.. so that's an almost guaranteed kill with the max. damage of USN torpedo's! EPIC! It is T7, BTW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
642 [-K--] iHaveNoIntelligence Members 1,817 posts 9,035 battles Report post #2 Posted March 25, 2016 I can't w8 to buy it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #3 Posted March 25, 2016 But AAA, and enemy fighters... Let's hope the planes are as tough as the rumors say they will be... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,202 GhostSwordsman Members 6,603 posts 8,654 battles Report post #4 Posted March 26, 2016 I can't w8 to buy it Is WG actually going to put it on sale? I've only seen posts alluding to it, but never something official from WG. I thought the only way to get one was through the contests Niko was hosting. If they are going to sell it, then I'll probably get it, as it sounds like a USN CV I'll actually like(because of the strike package being like IJN carriers). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #5 Posted March 26, 2016 But AAA, and enemy fighters... Let's hope the planes are as tough as the rumors say they will be... Yeah that is going to suck. Unless the planes are made of Sovietinium, they are going to get smoke checked so hard. It is T7, BTW lol I like how they said it was t6, then made it t7, then said it was t6 again. Then publicly released it as a t6, then said in the press release they were still trying to decide, then said again on the press release that it would be t6 for certain. LOL now it's coming out t7 hahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #6 Posted March 26, 2016 Is WG actually going to put it on sale? I've only seen posts alluding to it, but never something official from WG. I thought the only way to get one was through the contests Niko was hosting. If they are going to sell it, then I'll probably get it, as it sounds like a USN CV I'll actually like(because of the strike package being like IJN carriers). http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/73783-carry-me-to-the-saipan-in-game-competition-325-327/page__p__1811652#entry1811652 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,202 GhostSwordsman Members 6,603 posts 8,654 battles Report post #7 Posted March 26, 2016 http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/73783-carry-me-to-the-saipan-in-game-competition-325-327/page__p__1811652#entry1811652 Ah, missed the end of the first sentence. Boy do I love how our brains can sometimes just skip over content like that so easily. (missed it likely due to skimming the paragraph, lol) Thanks for the clarification! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #8 Posted March 26, 2016 I want a job again so I can get money to buy Saipan and Cambletown when they come out. I hate being poor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
54 [-FINS] AhosChaos Members 363 posts 16,879 battles Report post #9 Posted March 26, 2016 We neglect to remember that because there are three squadrons, you will have 6 torp planes (2 squadrons) only facing regular AA and not the AA you get by clicking with Crtl Also I fought one with my Pensacola, even with defensive fire and the Crtl click AA I only shot down like 2-3 planes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #10 Posted March 26, 2016 We neglect to remember that because there are three squadrons, you will have 6 torp planes (2 squadrons) only facing regular AA and not the AA you get by clicking with Crtl Also I fought one with my Pensacola, even with defensive fire and the Crtl click AA I only shot down like 2-3 planes Those planes must have about a bajillion HP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #11 Posted March 26, 2016 Those planes must have about a bajillion HP The planes are tier 9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124 HBZK100 Members 1,482 posts 2,386 battles Report post #12 Posted March 26, 2016 The planes are tier 9. Yep, F4U-4 Corsairs are identical to the ones on the Essex. Then the Skyraiders are tier 10 I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,211 10T0nHammer Members 7,307 posts 3,311 battles Report post #13 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) But AAA, and enemy fighters... Let's hope the planes are as tough as the rumors say they will be... Its not sadly, My Pepsicola knocked down 27 Saipain planes yesterday when I ran into a ST using it: was not a good impression but still looking forward to it The problem comes in how this game calculates plane kills. small squads are easier to shoot down that large squads. Of course, what makes it deadly is how fast those planes where. Even though I managed to wipe him out several times, he always managed to land hits. 48 planes is going to be very tough for less than decent CV players though. Edited March 26, 2016 by 10T0nHammer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #14 Posted March 26, 2016 Jesus H Christ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
23 TallGiraffe Beta Testers 104 posts 4,168 battles Report post #15 Posted March 27, 2016 Just quoting this here "1st Place - 1 Saipan Carrier (Upon release), 1 Port Slot, and 14 Days Premium" So probably will be on sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,651 [BWC] Jakob_Knight Beta Testers 3,576 posts 10,019 battles Report post #16 Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) Actually, I faced a Saipan with my Ranger in a battle the other day, with a Lexington as well on both sides. While our team lost the battle, I ended up with 40 planes downed and confirmed some suspicions of mine (and no, the Saipan did not survive the battle either, so it's tough to say if we were both the victims of the Lexingtons on each side). The Saipan's planes are, indeed, higher tier, but having half the number of planes is a pretty significant disadvantage as losing one plane is 33% of the squadron's capabilities gone, as opposed to only 17% for a Ranger's squadron. This also is a hidden disadvantage, one I think is intentional, as opposing CV captains with Dogfight Expert now have a significant boost to their effectiveness due to the 1-2 tier difference between other T7 planes and the Saipan's. When my fighters engaged the Saipan's (and it was clear which those were from the number of fighters in the group), the Saipan fighters went down fairly quickly due to these two factors. Another interesting point is that the Saipan's ability to field three torpedo bomber squadrons comes at the price of only having 3 torpedoes from each squadron, 2 most times due to losses from AA fire before they can get into drop position. While this means a three-way anvil attack is possible, it also means the attack will likely be less damaging than a normal TB squadron attack due to the fewer number of torpedoes launched. On the flip side, it is the only American carrier that gets to have multiple fighter and TB squadrons at this level of play, so I think that dynamic alone will make up for a lot of the lost damage (considering the Ranger has to make due with dive bombers only if it wants multiple fighters). All in all, I'm on the fence about this ship. I want to see how it handles air attacks against it (it seems to have pretty heavy armor and good speed, with excellent concealment) as well as the active cycle time of the squadrons before I decide if this ship is worth getting instead of a Ranger. My observations. Edited March 28, 2016 by Jakob_Knight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124 HBZK100 Members 1,482 posts 2,386 battles Report post #17 Posted March 29, 2016 You are right, the dogfighting expert would work against the Saipan since the Saipan has tier 9 aircraft. But, the barrage ability is going to be lethal still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 [WRHD] EroSun Alpha Tester 336 posts 5,808 battles Report post #18 Posted March 29, 2016 Having divisioned with Lert while he was testing the Saipan, and seeing how fast those planes are...the fact that there is only 3 torpedoes per squadron means that the rearming period and flight times are much shorter then a standard USN 6 plane squadron of tier 7 would be. Thus giving you more strikes in the same timeframe so those 9 torpedoes (if you use all 3 squads together) can rapidly add up in short order as the planes return, rearm and re-launch faster then expected. Not to meantion it was funny watching Ryujo and Independence fighters trying to chase lert's TB squadrons after they had launched their torpedoes lol. All in all from an outsider watching how the planes performed and not knowing all the stats due to not being a ST myself, there are pluses and minuses. Weaker squadrons of 3 planes instead of 6 meaning, less ammo for fighters due to only 3 planes, less torpedoes per launch....but planes are fast and if played "close" to the fleet, that fast part is a HUGE plus in how quickly you can re-launch those 3 plane squadrons. As for the fighters being tore up by lower tier fighters with the captain skill...I ran my Atlanta most of the time providing Lert with extra AA for those times a good CV captain managed to wipe out his fighters only to find out the path to the Saipan wasn't as cake walk as they thought it would be with the untouched Atlanta sitting close enough and in their line of attack for even my close in 20mm to be firing at their planes as they made their runs on his CV lol. Same with DD's ... give the Saipan an escort so it can concentrate on managing its planes and its not a bad premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
259 Numbah18 Beta Testers 3,072 posts 1,908 battles Report post #19 Posted March 30, 2016 But AAA, and enemy fighters... Let's hope the planes are as tough as the rumors say they will be... Honestly I don't really know if this matters to me. I'm used to sneaking my planes around the enemy and giving them a nice surprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
97 hiroshi_tea Members 426 posts 2,869 battles Report post #20 Posted March 30, 2016 this ship sounds so fun. I can't wait to become poor again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,615 [-K-] Edgecase [-K-] Members 6,121 posts 28,566 battles Report post #21 Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Okay, what the heck is this beast? (spotted alongside 3x 4-fighter squadrons off the same Saipan) Edited March 31, 2016 by Edgecase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
31 [GOATS] Destroyer_Atlanta Beta Testers 269 posts 7,064 battles Report post #22 Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Okay, what the heck is this beast? (spotted alongside 3x 4-fighter squadrons off the same Saipan) that is one of the 2 new loadouts they r testing for the saipan, thats the new AS loadout, 3x3 F4U squads and 1x8 AD2 DBs , which its new strike load is 2x3 F4Us and 2x3 AD1 TBs. instead of its OG load being the one the OP mentioned the 2x3 F4U and the 3x3 AD1s edit: the changes are being made cuz WG sees the OG loadout as a T8 quality loadout no joke, cuz the USN cant have any fun CVs to torp with >_> Edited March 31, 2016 by mastergenera1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
406 Frenotx Members 1,344 posts 3,206 battles Report post #23 Posted March 31, 2016 2x3 T9 fighters plus 3x3 T9 TBs would be pretty weak at T8. Losing 3 1000lb bomb DBs and 42 hanger capacity to get 3 more torps in the water and have a single-tier advantage? That would be a total joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
259 Numbah18 Beta Testers 3,072 posts 1,908 battles Report post #24 Posted April 1, 2016 Okay, what the heck is this beast? (spotted alongside 3x 4-fighter squadrons off the same Saipan) Wat's really funny is the 3/0/1 used to be the full FT Loadout on the Saipan and up. Though the 8 DB is rather new. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124 HBZK100 Members 1,482 posts 2,386 battles Report post #25 Posted April 1, 2016 Wat's really funny is the 3/0/1 used to be the full FT Loadout on the Saipan and up. Though the 8 DB is rather new. But didn't the Saipan from closed beta have 6 plane squads. (I started playing WoWs the day it wen't into open beta...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
