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Prepare for Bogatyr nerfs (How it performs in Tier 5)

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Only tier 3 in the game.....LOL

 

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Bogatyr 3 CA/CL  USSR 11 91% 63,946 1,449 2.45 0.00 73% 2,146
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New favorite toy, then?

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It really is over powered with aft bft skills. I was averaging around 50k damage a game and was farming damage  given that I could sit behind something and with someone else spotting I could punish everyone within the range. I was farming confederates and high caliber in this ship. I don't consider myself to be unicum, simply above average and yet this thing is such a seal clubber at its tier and is still good at tier 5.

Edit: Also without taking any real damage. Usually would end up with only a quarter damage on my own ship.

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[edited]this ship. It's so flammable from what I've seen that a good HE salvo can blow you up from full HP.

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It really is over powered with aft bft skills. I was averaging around 50k damage a game and was farming damage  given that I could sit behind something and with someone else spotting I could punish everyone within the range. I was farming confederates and high caliber in this ship. I don't consider myself to be unicum, simply above average and yet this thing is such a seal clubber at its tier and is still good at tier 5.

 

This thing takes "clubbing" to a whole new level.  Truly is OP, and makes the poor St Louis wish it was "lend-leased" to Russia....LOL

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Its kind of funny, WG nerfs cruisers and their 152 or 155 guns with the change to AFT. Then it gives us a cruiser that can mount 130s and AFT is back in the cruiser captain skill tree lol. 

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This thing takes "clubbing" to a whole new level.  Truly is OP, and makes the poor St Louis wish it was "lend-leased" to Russia....LOL

 

Lol autism you are sick. You monster jajaja. As soon as I could I grinded out to tier 4 because I felt so bad about abusing everyone. I have learned a bit how to kill them with my nikolai but to be honest its just really good in the hands of decent players, its insane in my hands, its a monster in a unicums hand. Yeah and st louis was one of the diamonds of the american cruiser line too.

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[edited]this ship. It's so flammable from what I've seen that a good HE salvo can blow you up from full HP.

 

If you are getting shot you are doing it wrong. Get behind an island and lets its shell arc do the work for you. It really takes advantage of the shell arc (use gun upgrade module since though it looks like its worse its actually better).

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Nah, nothing will make me abandon my precious clubber St. Louis. I get those results in Louis anyway so for me it looks like I have a challange now

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Without AFT she is nothing special, and needs to get into rather close proximity to deal damage.  I think my first game in the ship I managed to kill three opponents and burn down a wyoming (earning Arsonist in the process).  I did end up taking a significant amount of damage that game and was sunk with about 30 seconds left by a torp that just grazed my hull.  

 

People need to remember that since the line is new and most veteran players are grinding up using high point captains, this type of damage will become the exception and not the rule.  I don't think WG needs to nerf anything atm.  All these threads just speak to the fact that these ships are the shiny new toys on the block and are being driven  by experienced players with high point captains.  Everything will normalize out in a few weeks/months when these players have moved on to higher tiers.  The ship is fine imo.  For every game like the OP posted, there are 10 where the ship got obliterated due to poor armor and inexperienced captains.

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good game but i think its too early to consider nerfing them, i've seen this cruiser being played by good and bad cruiser players and its just like st louis on its early days before everyone knew how powerfull the st louis is they used to consider it as an ordinary cruiser and didnt care about it considering it was slow and has no torps but after afew guys started doing videos on them and seal clubbing in it ,it was feared so stlouis draws in alot of fire when  its spotted ....give this ship time and soon you will see how people will focus it down ...atleast the st louis has the armor to take hits i wonder how much this can take when its focused on

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She doesn't even need AFT, her armor is good enough vs. AP that you can float around and only concern yourself with burning to death. Great at mid range with that monster broadside and any fires you light are just extra frosting. The concealment is great, Bogatyr with CE would be stupid OP.

 

Me thinks it is more fun than Svietlana... 

 

Svietlana reminds me off Karl, only not so terrible.

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Only tier 3 in the game.....LOL

 

PxRp7ZK.jpg

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Solo gameplay: 

 

Bogatyr 3 CA/CL  USSR 11 91% 63,946 1,449 2.45 0.00 73% 2,146

 

The real question is how does it perform in the hands of an average player which you are far from being?
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The real question is how does it perform in the hands of an average player which you are far from being.

 

I'm going to get on it and let you guys revel in my disappointment.

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The real question is how does it perform in the hands of an average player which you are far from being?

 

The thing is, is what defines an average player? We all started somewhere right? Heck I define myself as an average player and by all right I am, though some have said, well to me at least, that I am above average. So, perhaps starting the USSR line is one thing, but having a full line up and then starting the USSR line up is another, let alone growing one's own skill set along the way. /shrug

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Just goes to show you that they didn't think your T3 was a threat...need some more games, and actually at T3, cause then you ARE the threat.

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Nah, nothing will make me abandon my precious clubber St. Louis. I get those results in Louis anyway so for me it looks like I have a challange now

 

130mm from 10+ km I have citadeled a ST. Louis. 

From 3 km I have out gunned and out burned a ST. Louis. 

 

Your precious Louis is no longer the clubber, it is THE club-e.

 

A Bogatyr in decent hands can ruin up to tier 5.

 

I have citadeled a St. Louis, phoenix  (6), kuma, Bogatyr,  South Carolina. 

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The real question is how does it perform in the hands of an average player which you are far from being?

 

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Without AFT she is nothing special, and needs to get into rather close proximity to deal damage.  I think my first game in the ship I managed to kill three opponents and burn down a wyoming (earning Arsonist in the process).  I did end up taking a significant amount of damage that game and was sunk with about 30 seconds left by a torp that just grazed my hull.  

 

People need to remember that since the line is new and most veteran players are grinding up using high point captains, this type of damage will become the exception and not the rule.  I don't think WG needs to nerf anything atm.  All these threads just speak to the fact that these ships are the shiny new toys on the block and are being driven  by experienced players with high point captains.  Everything will normalize out in a few weeks/months when these players have moved on to higher tiers.  The ship is fine imo.  For every game like the OP posted, there are 10 where the ship got obliterated due to poor armor and inexperienced captains.

 

I had 3 point captain in my bogatyr and I've averaged 47k .  I am just average or bit above that.     4 of 4 matches won and survived all.    I find it OP

 

  4 100% 46,474 760 1.75 0.00 100%

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I have only done a few games in it and it felt OP to me, tier 3 game breaking OP.  It has long range, good accuracy, good velocity, lights things on fire like crazy, does good HE damage, is fairly fast.  

 

It's just so easy to dominate pretty much everything else in it's tier with ease.  It eats BB's alive, they don't stand a chance with their accuracy and slow reload.

 

It eats all other cruisers alive except itself, it massacres DD's, especially russian dd's because of their crap torp range.

 

 

It's hilariously OP.   I even murdered a myogi in it with ease.  He fired salvo after slavo at me and only got me down to half while I burned him alive, he was helpless.

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This thing is a bloody little monster. The phrase that popped into my head after a few co-op games in it? "Gremyaschy's Gone Wild". I was starting anywhere from 4 to 10 fires per game, in CO-OP no less. With only a 3 pt captain, BFT and EM, 6.7 rpm and 24 second turret traverse with the 130's. It literally steamrolls anything less than a Tier 5 BB. I was simply cruising around shooting anything that moved. Same as another poster, even when focused by multiple bots, thing seems to take remarkably little damage - only times I finished a game with less than 50% HP was on two occasions - one game the carrier had it out for me big time and survived multiple DB and torp drops (an aside, this thing does seem to be quite maneuverable and dodges torp attacks with ease) - second occasion I was careless and let myself get nailed by two torps that were originally fired at another ship at long range. The stock 152's aren't anything to sneeze at either.

The "Bogey"? I think "Boogeyman" would be more appropriate. I'd bet my next paycheck this thing is going to get nerfed eventually, even if it is Russian. It's just too damned powerful for Tier 3. I shudder to think of the carnage when some seal-clubbing-minded individual puts in a captain with Demo Expert....:hiding:


 

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