855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #1 Posted March 24, 2016 I played ten matches in Kirov and Buddy. I have yet to survive a single one. They're fun ships but good grief! They're like the Atlanta and the Yubari! A HE shell landing in the water 4 kilometers away will citadel you, knock out all your modules, set you on fire and leave you with 10% health left. I posted this picture teasing the upcoming Russian line awhile ago. But, since I started playing them, it's all I've seen in-game: Will I keep playing the line? I plan to. Even though I get sunk every match, the ships are still fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
263 [BUN] Haruka_Takayama Beta Testers 1,915 posts 6,595 battles Report post #2 Posted March 24, 2016 Isn't that Murmansk? They had to build an artificial dry dock around it just to dismantle it I think.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [BARF] 1nc0mp3t3nt_1 Beta Testers 5,816 posts 5,484 battles Report post #3 Posted March 24, 2016 DO NOT play the Novik. AFT is a lie and the ship is horrid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
621 [KIA] thegamefilmguruman Members 2,378 posts 17,003 battles Report post #4 Posted March 24, 2016 DO NOT play the Novik. AFT is a lie and the ship is horrid It's possibly worse than Karl! I don't know how! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,720 Eisennagel Beta Testers 11,689 posts Report post #5 Posted March 24, 2016 This is Wargaming's new cruiser meta, or at least since the German cruisers: squishy, high risk, high reward. Glass cannons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 _Nyarlathotep_ Members 73 posts 16,333 battles Report post #6 Posted March 24, 2016 Agreed that the Novik was a challenge. But, the Bogatyr was a hoot. I liked it so much I definitely think I am going to keep it. Just unlocked Svetlana and haven't played any games in her yet. Withholding judgment until I at least get to the Kirov. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #7 Posted March 24, 2016 ZOMG!!! I just survived a match in my Buddy!! W-what do I do? WHAT DO I DO?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #8 Posted March 24, 2016 PROOF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,788 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,750 posts 15,850 battles Report post #9 Posted March 24, 2016 Does that Tier 2 one have no citadel? Went clubbing in my Hermelin and could not citadel them at all and kept overpenning. HE was more effective than AP on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 Captain_Pyro1 Members 16 posts 3,804 battles Report post #10 Posted March 24, 2016 Ive gone to tier 8 in the new tree. So far my favorites are the buddy and kirov. Like people have said they seem to be glass cannons with survival usually being hit or miss. One you feel them out they can be a blast to play, I've had some matches where I get destroyed pretty quick and others that were the complete opposite with 3 and 4 kills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
374 [WOLFB] fbrrhd Members 1,113 posts 45,851 battles Report post #11 Posted March 24, 2016 I was in a "strait" battle with my Kirov. At the start of the match, withing sec. I had just pushed "w" a Kongo on the other side hit me with ONE shot front on! ( I had not moved yet) and was at Half health. These are the weakest ships I have played. They give "glass cannons" a new name... They are crystal balls! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #12 Posted March 24, 2016 They are crystal balls! Crystal is generally stronger then glass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
166 [5IN] Sir_Godz Members 1,371 posts 33,994 battles Report post #13 Posted March 24, 2016 I'm in kirov and after 7 matchs, 40% and 29 000 dmg. I think in 3 matchs I got 50 000 dmg. I was carried with all the wins mind you. Twice I ran up against a nurn and the 126% rof differential was the end of me in 2 minutes or less. The thing just can't defend against more than one ship and even one is a stretch. Angling does absolutely nothing. The dmg numbers are odd. Whether AP or HE there are still many salvos that yield zero dmg. I find I have to watch every volley to see if it hits just to know whether I was at least on target due to the zero dmg results. Obviously the play style has to be tuned to this line specifically but omg this thing is bad. Even super awesome streamers are mystified and disgusted at how bad they are. When people with 80% WR8 can't put wins together with divisions wthare we supposed to do. I have a lower dmg output than my worst ship in my fleet and by a wide margin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,881 [-K--] vak_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,176 posts 10,855 battles Report post #14 Posted March 24, 2016 DO NOT play the Novik Good thing I free XPd it then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,881 [-K--] vak_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,176 posts 10,855 battles Report post #15 Posted March 24, 2016 Isn't that Murmansk? Yep. Sverdlov-class cruiser, same as Kutuzov. It ran aground in Norway while on the way to be scrapped for metal, and was subsequently abandoned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_cruiser_Murmansk_%281955%29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Lee_Smith_Ninja Members 3 posts 1 battles Report post #16 Posted March 26, 2016 Agree with Sir Godz. Not a good ship. At least not in my hands. But I'm not alone by the sounds of it. Just too fragile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites