Budyonny = Best Friend

[Shadowrigger1]

This ship is simply Amazing,  It started out rough, and I had a sour taste in my mouth from the Kirov.  But this Beauty should just be called Dasha Perova.  She's a bit thick in the back side, but this girl can lay a smack down on anyone who gives you a  shot at them.  

 

HE is Decent, but at 12% base fire, this thing splits Flame.  The AP even smacks down the Colorado penning pretty decently at range even. 

 

But be warned, this ship will let you know you got too Sassy and give you a Huge Citadel to the face if you don't treat her right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MeKanism]

Well, it's in the name, Isn't it? BUDyonny?

[Batwingsix]

I forsee a HE nerf on the line... they are flamethrowers and people will PMS until it is dumbed down

[Aeries1]

Curious if this ship suffers the same fragile engine/rudder as lower tier Russian cruisers.

[Shadowrigger1]

Curious if this ship suffers the same fragile engine/rudder as lower tier Russian cruisers.

 

I haven't lost my engine or Rudder yet,  not saying others haven't experienced it,  I just might have been lucky so far.

[aim_low]

Free xp'd up to Kirov, tempted to bump up to Budy but I think Kirov has something to teach me about the line.

[Mannstien]

Curious if this ship suffers the same fragile engine/rudder as lower tier Russian cruisers.

 

Haven't lost any yet and angled she can take some hits but a sneeze at an angle more that 40 degrees will just like the rest of them send her to the bottom quick like, she does have superb guns and I can land shots somewhat reliably with the scout plane up on BB's at max range I think is 20 ish km with the spotter. Otherwise I just stay in the back and stay with a bigger target but they tend to focus me I think because it's something new to shoot at lol but when she's bow on with an angle I've taken 14" shells and really not had a heavy damage shot hit me yet but still to early to tell.

[Batwingsix]

Fire almost every HE salvo against her, engine knocked out, guns damaged... she is glass... but hits like a ton of bricks

[Combined_Fleet_HQ]

Just got it and played a few games so far....and I gotta say this is a HUGE step up from the Kirov

[CanadianArmoured]

The Kirov makes me feel bad. grinding the guts out of it to get rid of her. too bad to as I was hoping it would be a harder hitting Konig but it cant hang in a fight like that ship can.  Looking forward to the Budy.

[10T0nHammer]

Firing HE feels like a waste in this thing. AP salvos do like 5k each and will citadel cruisers up to like 12-14km. I only fire HE at DDs. Even BBs get hurt by AP

[Shadowrigger1]

Firing HE feels like a waste in this thing. AP salvos do like 5k each and will citadel cruisers up to like 12-14km. I only fire HE at DDs. Even BBs get hurt by AP

 

The light shells bounce at the slightest of angles, but then you have the RNG give you a citadel on an angle that should have bounced, so   meh      HE still packs a punch, and the fire starting on this thing is insane.

[BanzaiJoe]

2200 for HE and 3300 for AP.   It has a nice low arc and infinitely better rate of fire of Kirov, but to say that AP is the way to go is a bit silly.  AP at range, not just for russian ships but all ships, means you are playing the RNG game.  Even if you are god's gift to RNG you will have dispersion.  Against non-stupid players, your dps will suffer.  So then the question becomes how close do you have to get your Budyonny to switch to make it worth it?  Her detection is something like 5,309,284 kilometers so it's not about surprise.  She has the speed to close quickly.  Unless it's 1v1, you will have closed on all the other enemy ships.   Depending on the target, I'm switching to AP about 9km out.  For me, personally though, that's more like dropping my rifle and grabbing my k-bar.

 

In other words, 3x3 @ 7.5 rnds/minute @ 12% HE fire @ 2200 base is what I shoot almost exclusively.  While I will get DE, the issue has to do with the ship, not the guns.  She has high speed, with a ship as big as a Wyoming and a turn radius to match.  I can't choose a high angle of attack or else I end up in their range quickly.  I can shoot at range; and, the speed allows me to put some wiggle in her.   She's unique, like a Gnevy/New Orleans/Fuso, and I love her.

[TimResin]

im sry but this ship is the biggest turd ever

[Fort1nero]

The armor data says he has 140mm, but I have been citadeled even with high angles by 203mm guns, is not coherent with the armor data. For a Tier VI is a very good ship, I like it but this cuestion concern me.

Kirov also, speed and [edited]awesome AP penetration in Tier V, yes the rest of characteristics are a crap, but I have great games on it.

[Sir_Godz]

Curious if this ship suffers the same fragile engine/rudder as lower tier Russian cruisers.

 

I couldn't tell you because the ship usually blows up when hit. Dredge the sea floor for sterns and investigate for us.

[BanzaiJoe]

The armor data says he has 140mm, but I have been citadeled even with high angles by 203mm guns, is not coherent with the armor data. For a Tier VI is a very good ship, I like it but this cuestion concern me.
Kirov also, speed and [edited]awesome AP penetration in Tier V, yes the rest of characteristics are a crap, but I have great games on it.

 

The unofficial words is that pretty much the back third is paper.   Her length is big as a battleship and a gunnel that sits even higher out of the water than a battleship.  No matter what the armor is, the target size to cit is probably twice as big.  Time to get your Troika (Russian Dance) on.  I do like the boring straightline of most ships, but this requires constant A and D.

[Chrifister]

Ship is fun to play. Excels against other CAs. Bow towards the enemy. Fire HE until you see a broadside then hit them with AP. Repeat until they sink. Avoid BBs when possible but I find only HE works against them. Pretty good at starting fires.

 

Curiously, the ship is not very good against DDs. I mean yes it's accurate and fast ROF but it seems the HE shells do very little damage, like 1-2k per salvo. Engaged a Tashkent last night with a friendly DD. I had 1/2 of my HP and a stray BB shell took half of that again in the middle of the battle. Tashkent killed both of us. I had 18 HE hits on the Tashkent for 9k damage. In all fairness though, I did lose a turret halfway through by that stray BB shell. Also, the ship is not really able to dodge torpedoes so don't get too close to DDs. The hydro-acoustic search is useless because of this.

 

The AA is very bad, basically useless without Defensive AA Fire activated and even when it is you're not shooting down more than one or two planes. Maneuvering is slow enough that it's next to impossible to avoid torpedo bombers.

 

Armor is good enough to bounce enemy CA and DD fire if angled, but the whole ship is a citadel so don't get hit by any BB. Not sure about bouncing 203mm AP though.

 

Just had a good game with her:

 

 

[RightYouAreKen]

I just got her tonight and I like her. Her rate of fire is good, her trajectory is nice and flat, her AP pounds cruisers, her turret traverse is decent and she looks good. Her HE seems a bit weak though against BBs and DDs as mentioned. Feels like it takes longer than it should to dispatch a DD with her. Her AA is pretty weak on paper, but I'm averaging over 8 plane kills per match so far and no CV bots in sight tonight. Averaging 64k damage in 4 matches with 100% win and survival rate. I'm sure it's a bit downhill from here, but can't see it by too much.

[MrDeaf]

Guns and shells are the same ones found on Kutuzov, you get 16.6km range and 3/4 of the turrets of the T8, which makes this ship a bit OP.

 

Its armor isn't as good against BB sized shells, but it's plenty tough against 203mm if you go bow on.

And if you are bow on, that's the same firepower as Kutuzov.

 

I do see WG being a bit cautious and giving a different revision gun for the Kutuzov, so Buddy might not retain that 7.5RPM.

[Mannstien]

Buddy can be awesome!!

[bad_arcade_kitty]

just found today that people on the ru server sometimes call her 'china kitty'

it's adorable :3

 

apparently it's from a very old soviet joke. a guy (stoned, i guess) in a souvenir shop points at a china figurine of budyonny and asks:

- give me please that china kitty with huge whiskers.

- sir, it's not a china kitty, it's a marshal of the soviet union, semyon mikhailovich budyonny!

- holy s**t, give me two!

 

now, to understand that joke you should know how he looked like

 

[Shadowrigger1]

just found today that people on the ru server sometimes call her 'china kitty'

it's adorable :3

 

apparently it's from a very old soviet joke. a guy (stoned, i guess) in a souvenir shop points at a china figurine of budyonny and asks:

- give me please that china kitty with huge whiskers.

- sir, it's not a china kitty, it's a marshal of the soviet union, semyon mikhailovich budyonny!

- holy s**t, give me two!

 

now, to understand that joke you should know how he looked like

 

 

Jokes really are only funny to those that heard it 

 

or more importantly, were there to possible think it might have been funny.

[Eisennagel]

 

 

Most overpowered mustache of the Soviet Union.

[dahdah325]

im sry but this ship is the biggest turd ever

 

Lolwut? If you are having issues with the Buddy, you need to reassess your gameplay. It does require a certain adjustment of style, and punishes players who can't maintain situational awareness, but it is arguably the best t6 CA right now. The only thing the Cleve does better is having a better armor/citadel profile. The Buddy should outgun a Cleve 9 out of 10 times. And the poor Aoba, while not a bad ship, is just completely outclassed by the Buddy. 

 

TL-DR : If you are doing bad in the Buddy, its not the ship, its you.