146 Iron_Knickers Beta Testers 701 posts 1,305 battles Report post #1 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) So, this is just a simple idea I had on how to make carriers a relevant part of the game. It is completely unshaped and vague, so it is also very malleable and you guys can either improve it or dismiss it, any feedback is appreciated. So here it is... *drum roll* In games without carrier players, create bot carriers to take their place? Oh yeah, also make bots good somehow Edited March 24, 2016 by Iron_Knickers 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #2 Posted March 24, 2016 So, this is just a simple idea I had on how to make carriers a relevant part of the game. It is completely unshaped and vague, so it is also very malleable and you guys can either improve it or dismiss it, any feedback is appreciated. So here it is... *drum roll* In games without carrier players, create bot carriers to take their place? Inb4 every1 hates in on this thread. In all seriousness, don't actually do that. Bots can be easily manipulated compared to actual players. Additionally, CV bots aren't exactly the best. I've tested this out in custom and they simply fly their planes straight to the enemy spawn. If they see nothing, they DO nothing. On a further note, if there were no human DD players in a game, think about how many people aren't going to be throwing parties and chanting "Hallelujah". (I'm included in this group) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #3 Posted March 24, 2016 >How to make Carriers Relevant are you kidding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
146 Sinisstarr Members 471 posts Report post #4 Posted March 24, 2016 So, this is just a simple idea I had on how to make carriers a relevant part of the game. In just about every game I play lately there is at least 1 carrier per team, often 2, who then proceed to sink every BB in sight with manual drops. How much more relevance would you like? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
97 amaROenuZ Members 354 posts 4,973 battles Report post #5 Posted March 24, 2016 See, carriers are already relevant. They're ideal for discouraging sniping BBs, spotting invisible DDs, softening up pesky runners, etc. They just need a little tweaking to make them more rewarding to play. Better divebombing mechanics, less frustrating low-tiers, reduced prisoners-dillemaing on the loadouts, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #6 Posted March 24, 2016 Title: Buff them back to CBT performance. *dodges fruit and shoes.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,414 yUPPatriots Members 3,929 posts 21,482 battles Report post #7 Posted March 24, 2016 Nice try iron but sadly cvs are here to stay. However, one can still dream: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
102 Hyoudou_Issei_The_RDE Alpha Tester 523 posts 8,765 battles Report post #8 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Nice try iron but sadly cvs are here to stay. However, one can still dream: [edited]lolololol +1 to you xD Edited March 24, 2016 by Cruiser_Zao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 Athorian Members 1 post 159 battles Report post #9 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Carriers are the reason i uninstalled wows's and will not reinstall until i read something on here about how the carriers got nerfed. I'll check back from time to time to check but until then...no ships for me or money from me. It's a great game and i'm not bashing it, or players that play the carriers. Their torpedoes are just way to much. Edited March 24, 2016 by Athorian 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
27 [RYZIN] SDMCM_SakuyaIzayoi Members 162 posts 4,693 battles Report post #10 Posted March 24, 2016 I only got 2 games in langley. Maybe shooting down planes would be a great way to earn credits? It may help aa crusiers such as usn abit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 Alakdbor Members 65 posts 4,480 battles Report post #11 Posted March 24, 2016 I absolutely detest playing my Ranger in a tier IX battle -- I might as well just afk since I get triple-slammed in the first two minutes. I was smack in the middle of a few cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,414 yUPPatriots Members 3,929 posts 21,482 battles Report post #12 Posted March 24, 2016 I absolutely detest playing my Ranger Detesting carriers is 100% ok, no need to feel any guilt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
146 Iron_Knickers Beta Testers 701 posts 1,305 battles Report post #13 Posted March 24, 2016 Thanks for the feedback everyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
146 Sinisstarr Members 471 posts Report post #14 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Carriers are the reason i uninstalled wows's and will not reinstall until i read something on here about how the carriers got nerfed. You might be waiting a while, WG is hard at work adding teddy bear captains (yes really) and cartoon ships to the game instead of fixing balance. Edited March 24, 2016 by ProjectBorn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #15 Posted March 24, 2016 i want a teddy bear captain also im such a silly silly girl, i probablly will never have myoko now and haguro while her anime avatar is cuter she is so red (da red goez fasta?) and i want violet mewko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
76 [NO2BB] _Zergling Members 306 posts 4,921 battles Report post #16 Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) This is what WG needs to do in order to make carriers more relevant: Make AA and fighters more intuitive, instead of the stupid clicking we have right now. Edit: In fact, make everything more intuitive. Current interface is buggy and hotkeys are unchangeable. More plane interaction such as changing altitude and speed. Make fighters actually useful in higher tiers. Nobody uses Air superiority because of the point above and because they run out of ammo after shooting 1 squad. Buff overlapping AA, take away Defensive Fire consumable. Promotes the counter of sticking together in order to have a more effective AA defense, without having a mechanic which CV players are 100% helpless against. More carriers of different nations. Right now with only 2 nations with CVs right now, gameplay amongst the two is too one-dimensional. IJN into USN, you hide your bombers and use ur fighters as bait. USN into IJN, you truck their fighters and then do some stuff with your DBs. We need another nation with different strengths and weaknesses to break up this stale meta. Edited March 24, 2016 by _Zergling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
146 Sinisstarr Members 471 posts Report post #17 Posted March 24, 2016 also im such a silly silly dude pretending to be a girl Fixed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10,399 [B2P] Taichunger Members 13,459 posts 44,054 battles Report post #18 Posted March 24, 2016 The OP misspelled "revenant". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
74 DeeZee8 Beta Testers 841 posts 3,908 battles Report post #19 Posted March 24, 2016 Carriers are the reason i uninstalled wows's and will not reinstall until i read something on here about how the carriers got nerfed. I'll check back from time to time to check but until then...no ships for me or money from me. It's a great game and i'm not bashing it, or players that play the carriers. Their torpedoes are just way to much. You do know the Saipan is coming You do know the DAWS hack to avoid torpedoes, as well as skills you do know like vigilance to help spot them, oh and hydroacoustic search also do you know? i want a teddy bear captain also im such a silly silly girl, i probablly will never have myoko now and haguro while her anime avatar is cuter she is so red (da red goez fasta?) and i want violet mewko Teddy bears have cotton balls. I am sure you can re-skin your ships, just to be silly The OP misspelled "revenant". Prevalent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
95 [BANG_] Arvanna_1 Beta Testers 493 posts 6,860 battles Report post #20 Posted March 24, 2016 This is what WG needs to do in order to make carriers more relevant: Make AA and fighters more intuitive, instead of the stupid clicking we have right now. Edit: In fact, make everything more intuitive. Current interface is buggy and hotkeys are unchangeable. More plane interaction such as changing altitude and speed. Make fighters actually useful in higher tiers. Nobody uses Air superiority because of the point above and because they run out of ammo after shooting 1 squad. Buff overlapping AA, take away Defensive Fire consumable. Promotes the counter of sticking together in order to have a more effective AA defense, without having a mechanic which CV players are 100% helpless against. More carriers of different nations. Right now with only 2 nations with CVs right now, gameplay amongst the two is too one-dimensional. IJN into USN, you hide your bombers and use ur fighters as bait. USN into IJN, you truck their fighters and then do some stuff with your DBs. We need another nation with different strengths and weaknesses to break up this stale meta. Sadly if they did follow your suggestions there would be a cry from the CV players to nerf AAA just like before when people started grouping up for mutual protection and the CV's cried about how many planes they were losing throwing them into the teeth of a pack of ships just for a point blank torp drop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 Fog_Destroyer_Yudachi Beta Testers 413 posts 2,744 battles Report post #21 Posted March 24, 2016 Carriers are the reason i uninstalled wows's and will not reinstall until i read something on here about how the carriers got nerfed. I'll check back from time to time to check but until then...no ships for me or money from me. It's a great game and i'm not bashing it, or players that play the carriers. Their torpedoes are just way to much. they need several minutes to launch one wave of bombers if enemy carrier is doing his work. if a battleship/cruiser is shooting you for such a long time, you receive similar amount of dmg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites