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Im on the Budyonny and I really am enjoying it!  So far they seem like US ships in terms of glass cannons, what do you guys think so far?  How far up the tiers are you?

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First game tier 3, got 2 fires and repaired it, 3 more fires next 2 salvos right before I was in island cover. impression is poor.

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Playing the Kirov, ship hits hard but is hit just as hard. A literal glass cannon, that has a nice enough speed to help you get away, but that sadly turns like a battleship.

 

If other ships that come later have the same characteristics, I'll likely give this line a 6/10. Expected more stalinium, they're not broken OP like I wanted them to be

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The tier 10 looks like the toughest cruiser in game right now though (Moskva), stat wise.  Highest HP? Strongest armor?

 

Just looking at survivability stat, I could be mistaken.

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skipped the T2, am on the T3 now. i like it, its similar to the st louis. i dont get the gun upgrade...loses in all categories except a slight increase in fire chance so ill be skipping that. im looking forward to the T5 since thats the tier where i start to take things more seriously. on paper that looks like a nice ship with its stronger than a CL but not quite CA guns.

 

the rest of the line looks interesting too...lots of CL burninator ships.

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Up to t4 so far. So far they are garbage. Trash gun velocity, awful traverse and firing arcs, weak armor, slow. No advantage over their peers in any meaningful way other than AFT which most won't have at this tier. Give me a st louis, kuma, dresden or tenryuu any day.

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Because there isn't already at least 4 of these topics started already, you had to make another why?

 

I'm sorry your upset again. Polly want a cracker?

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I'm sorry your upset again. Polly want a cracker?

 

Keep hammering that new thread button all day long, just like you always do. :red_button:
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I'm sorry your upset again. Polly want a cracker?

 

Not upset, just wondering when your Attentionwhoring will come to an end
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Free exp'd tier 2....hated it after 3 matches, zero wins.

Tier 3 is a paper ST. Louis. 

130mm guns are amazing...oh that AP is love...

So far 10 citadels in my Bogatyr. 

Made of paper, though, highly flammable. 

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The Buddy is a frickin monster - the low trajectory and tight shot group, and hard hitting rounds make it a killer and also a DD assassin.   I really like it.   The "iron dome" AA does not seem to work as well as the Cleveland, but the hitting power more than makes up for it, in my book.

 

I converted EXP and bought the Moskva within minutes of downloading the update....Haven't rolled it out yet,  but it looks a fast moving, hard hitting CL that can out gun any other cruiser, and do good work on a BB, if in a pack...

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skipped the T2, am on the T3 now. i like it, its similar to the st louis. i dont get the gun upgrade...loses in all categories except a slight increase in fire chance so ill be skipping that. im looking forward to the T5 since thats the tier where i start to take things more seriously. on paper that looks like a nice ship with its stronger than a CL but not quite CA guns.

Don't forget that Bogatyr's 130mm guns benefit from AFT, BFT, and EM as much as CA guns used to.

Free exp'd tier 2....hated it after 3 matches, zero wins.

Tier 3 is a paper ST. Louis. 

130mm guns are amazing...oh that AP is love...

So far 10 citadels in my Bogatyr. 

Made of paper, though, highly flammable. 

Do the 130s have higher velocity than the 152s?  I can't seem to cit but I do massive damage with AP (I got a 5-digit broadside on another Bogatyr, which made my jaw drop).

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Don't forget that Bogatyr's 130mm guns benefit from AFT, BFT, and EM as much as CA guns used to.

Do the 130s have higher velocity than the 152s?  I can't seem to cit but I do massive damage with AP (I got a 5-digit broadside on another Bogatyr, which made my jaw drop).

 

Yes they do. 

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Up to t4...free XPed out of the t2 as it was garbage (as all t2 cruisers are...for some reason t2s are less playable than t1s...) but the Bogatyr was a blast. Nicely balanced HE spam vs AP capabilities, high ROF, reasonably maneuverable...she was a beaut. 

 

Just unlocked the Svietlana and have 3 games so far...much less impressed than the Bogatyr, but I free-XPed the 1st hull upgrade which I'm hoping will help. It'll be a few hours before I can log on and work on her more, but I think she has potential. I think the B hull and upgraded guns will fix most of what I hate about her (slow traverse even for a ship with guns all along her broadsides, poor maneuverability, and the unfortunately non-fixable slow speed)

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I might go into the ships that can use the 130s seeing as they could pretty much interchange Captains with my Russian DDs

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The Buddy is a frickin monster - the low trajectory and tight shot group, and hard hitting rounds make it a killer and also a DD assassin.   I really like it.   The "iron dome" AA does not seem to work as well as the Cleveland, but the hitting power more than makes up for it, in my book.

 

I converted EXP and bought the Moskva within minutes of downloading the update....Haven't rolled it out yet,  but it looks a fast moving, hard hitting CL that can out gun any other cruiser, and do good work on a BB, if in a pack...

 

Let me know how it takes hits.

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I have only gone through Tier 6.

 

Tier 5 was meh.  Cit worse then USN or IJN CA lines that I have leveled through (on various accounts).  Guns hit hard and have good pen though you turn soo poorly and are soo big it is very hard to maneuver properly.

They do not break like the German CA line does and they seem to me to be able to respond to threats a little better then the German line overall.

Tier 6 is the first one in the series that I am enjoying.  I think that the gun reload speed helps a lot here.  It still can't take a hit and you should never be in the front however it can at least take half a hit if you are careful.

 

HE is worthless AP is very good, as many reviews have said.

Through Tier 6, I do not find them OP compared to the other CA lines, just different. 

Note: IMO DDs are a threat at mid range as the HE is rather poor and turning is not very good / you are very long so it is hard to avoid torps (for a CA).

 

Overall, fun, and does feel a bit different from the other CA lines.

 

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So far tried tier II and III:

Novik is junk... impossible to hit something at 9 km with such trajectory and dispersion...

Bogatyr has crappy dispersion as well, but at least better trajectory and a dozen of guns, so it's like shotgun she will hit for sure something - much better impression, maybe she will compete with St. Louise finally...

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skipped the T2, am on the T3 now. i like it, its similar to the st louis. i dont get the gun upgrade...loses in all categories except a slight increase in fire chance so ill be skipping that. im looking forward to the T5 since thats the tier where i start to take things more seriously. on paper that looks like a nice ship with its stronger than a CL but not quite CA guns.

 

the rest of the line looks interesting too...lots of CL burninator ships.

 

um 130mm is an upgrade on the older 152mm....Seriously there's a review on the Bogey! Your BFT/AFT/EM skills affect them.

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