Cheaters are real. Read on...

[Chaotic_Cranium]

I really enjoy this game and don't have a clue how to cheat. Starting yesterday I encountered certain ships that would take little or no damage from my shots. I was using the New York BB. A full broadside into a Cleveland at close range only knocked it down about 1/8 the damage scale. I had 4 hits! Strange? Heck yeah... I've encountered 4 different people with this unique ability. I only wrote down one name unfortunately.... Here's another case, I got 4 hits on a Wyoming and the hit points did not drop 1 point... at medium range. AND, at the same time they're shots do triple damage to me. What a bunch of bull crap! Get these cheaters the heck out of here! Please

[KTcraft]

I really enjoy this game and don't have a clue how to cheat. Starting yesterday I encountered certain ships that would take little or no damage from my shots. I was using the New York BB. A full broadside into a Cleveland at close range only knocked it down about 1/8 the damage scale. I had 4 hits! Strange? Heck yeah... I've encountered 4 different people with this unique ability. I only wrote down one name unfortunately... onizap is the players name. Here's another case, I got 4 hits on a Wyoming and the hit points did not drop 1 point... at medium range. AND, at the same time they're shots do triple damage to me. What a bunch of bull crap! Get these cheaters the heck out of here! Please

 

If you don't have replays how can we determine if What you are saying is accurate or more then simply just overpenetrations?

[BelgaraththeSorcerer]

This is called overpenetrating your rounds, or bouncing them, It is in no way cheating.

[Shadowrigger1]

Oh lawdy ! 

 

[Macabe]

You overpenned. Over-penetration will only deal 10% of the shells max damage. Wyoming has strong armor, you bounced. He didn't. It's not rocket science.

[TabbyHopkins]

Wow, cheater accusations w/o calling aimhacks? Impressive.

 

 

AP can bounce, OP. If you bounce, you do no damage. If you over penetrate, you do, and anyone is welcome to correct me if I am wrong, 1/10th the maximum damage.

 

 

Edit: Bloody ninjas.

[Brohk]

First, remove the player's name (naming and shaming is not allowed on this forum). Second, what do you have to support all of these claims? We need a lot more information, and preferably replays to make sure it isn't a case of user error (i.e. you struggling to grasp game mechanics). 

[Chaotic_Cranium]

OK, fine... whatever

[Brohk]

OK, fine... whatever

 

Don't get salty, we were all new players once and had to learn. Try starting here:

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/forum/123-new-player-guides/

[Crucis]

Cranium, learn the friggin' game.  Just because your shells "hit" a target doesn't mean that you're going to do major damage, moderate damage, or even any damage. 

[ZombieFlanders]

over-pens and bounces, not cheats...

 

you do realize that they would have to hack the server to get this to happen right? in the process exposing themselves to prosecution, fines and jail time, all for a game...

 

you and your ilk need to read up on the game and get stop automatically thinking everything is hacks...there are explanations that dont need the mental gymnastics.

[Im_The_Seeker2]

>chaotic cranium

damn right

[DeutschyDesu]

Off-Topic: I was expecting this thread to be about aim-mod accusations, lame

[vak_]

A full broadside into a Cleveland at close range only knocked it down about 1/8 the damage scale. I had 4 hits! Strange?

 

I got 4 hits on a Wyoming and the hit points did not drop 1 point... at medium range

 

AND, at the same time they're shots do triple damage to me

 

The hits on Cleveland most likely over-penetrated -- just like IRL, in-game AP shells need to go through a certain amount of armor before fusing. Did the 4 hits do about ~4k damage? That's what four over-penetrating shots would do.

 

The hits on Wyoming most likely didn't penetrate the armor, and harmlessly bounced off.

 

They most likely managed to penetrate your citadel. Were you broadsiding the firing enemy ship?

 

P.S. There is also an additional thing in game that will cause enemy ship to not take damage. Due to game engine limitations, when a part of the ship loses all of its HP, the ship will no longer receive damage when that part is being hit (except for fire/flooding). It's stupid, but its there. However, I don't think this was the case in your game -- overpen and bounce explain what you saw fine.

 

P.P.S Next time you accuse someone of cheating, please attach a replay of that game.

[Batwingsix]

Anyone have tin foil for my hat? I am too lazy to run and get some

[Red_Raven_168]

Anyone have tin foil for my hat? I am too lazy to run and get some

 

have you checked amazon.com

 

lots of foil hats

[Rekkoff]

 Sounds like over pens or bounces.

[BURN_Miner]

This was one of the main reasons why I quit the one and only clan I had joined in WoWS. Not because of cheating, but because of people calling "hacks" every 3 seconds in Teamspeak. The overwhelming idea of "WG has everyone pigeonholed into a 50% win ratio and anyone above it is a cheat, anyone below it sucks". A bit of an exaggeration there, but not that much and that is to only name one of the areas. Another was the hit ratio. "how on earth can someone hit me every single time, etc. etc. etc. - they cheat". I look at the person firing at them, they have a 20% hit ratio, I personally, across all ships, have a 24% (though I main BB's, some of which have upwards of 28%, in some cruisers, have a 30%+, all without using any cross hair mods, camera mods, or any mods for "in game" *only the training room*).

 

Their rebuttal, "well you have skill...." Mine, "Ya for an average player". And then trying to explain to people what it would take for an injection like WoT to work as someone has explained to me the actual mod for the artillery hack and how laughable it is compared to a moving target in WoWS, let alone with no tracer rounds (if you use no mods, let alone are in fact "moving")... Ya. But again, to no end and my eventual frustration led me to simply leaving, sadly.

 

Sorry to digress, but posts like this make me shake my head as people would rather point a finger and say "hack", scream "HACK!!!", because why? They came from other games, some of which are like World of Tanks, though it has been said that even though this game does use the BW engine, they are in fact "different", these glaring points still don't stand out in any fashion to any of these guys and they still want to be the loudest, in game, in Teamspeak, which does ruin other peoples game.

 

If you can get past the "hackusation" OP, if you are facing a Cleveland in a New York you need to pay attention to a few things.

• Angle of the Cleveland
• What type of shell (though if you ricocheted ammo, then you were using AP, which is good).
• How fast is the Cleveland going? You can see this by the smoke coming out of his stack.

 

What to do

• Aim a little higher depending on the angle and how far the Cleveland is away from you. Use "rolling" fire instead of a salvo, this will allow for adjustments to be made in between shots. You won't get the big massive "Devastating Strike", but you can get your shots in, even at 4,500 a pop, or citadel after citadel. I say aim higher as it will allow the "Plunging effect" to take place while the ship is angled. No worries though, if you are having too much trouble with the Clevlands Captain (seriously some Cleveland Captains are pretty good at dancing), empty the barrels and switch to HE, though once again with rolling fire instead of salvo's so you can adjust in between shots. ***not the best advice with the HE, but you will be less likely to skip a shot off with HE than with AP. It's not a 100% chance to not skip, but it's pretty high.** Still you want to use AP in almost every situation.
• If the ship (any ship pretty much) is broadside, waterline is your friend and adjust your fire from your hashmarks. Again, keeping in mind the smoke stack to know how fast they are going. Yet again, if skip shotting/over penning is taking place, aim a little higher for plunging effect. Most citadels are located under the turrets and in the smoke stack areas. Only real exception are CV's, which are located on only one side of the ship.

 

Hope this helps to some degree OP. But rest assured, despite what some old 2014/2015 videos say, or some "hack" website says they are trying to code up, I know I heard it all over teamspeak from people claiming this and claiming that as they died because they were sailing broadside. This isn't WoT and there isn't a working hack that I know of atm.

 

I'm not so daft to say that the game or the WG servers would or could ever be hacked like this, but currently, we would see it. The problem you described though, is a simple over penn issue and one that can be corrected by aiming.

[Red_Raven_168]

 Sounds like over pens or bounces.

 

[Carrier_Taiyo]

I really enjoy this game and don't have a clue how to cheat. Starting yesterday I encountered certain ships that would take little or no damage from my shots. I was using the New York BB. A full broadside into a Cleveland at close range only knocked it down about 1/8 the damage scale. I had 4 hits! Strange? Heck yeah... I've encountered 4 different people with this unique ability. I only wrote down one name unfortunately.... Here's another case, I got 4 hits on a Wyoming and the hit points did not drop 1 point... at medium range. AND, at the same time they're shots do triple damage to me. What a bunch of bull crap! Get these cheaters the heck out of here! Please

 

[Mizzerys_Fate]

Let's teach you how to cheat...

 

Assuming you are using New York :

 

1 shoot HE at Cleveland at short to medium range, will not over pen for 300 dam.

Do not shoot very front of Cleveland, will over pen.

 

2 do not shoot AP at a well angled Battleship,  it will bounce fo zero damage.

Shoot at another ship or reload he.

 

Now for some advanced cheating tips...

 

If you see a ship with a black charred section, DO NOT SHOOT THAT SECTION. Chances are that that module has 0 hit points and will not take ANY further damage.PERIOD, ZERO, NADA...NOT EVEN FIRE.

 

Now that you have advanced cheating knowledge,  enjoy!

[Captain_Dorja]

I really enjoy this game and don't have a clue how to cheat. Starting yesterday I encountered certain ships that would take little or no damage from my shots. I was using the New York BB. A full broadside into a Cleveland at close range only knocked it down about 1/8 the damage scale. I had 4 hits! Strange? Heck yeah... I've encountered 4 different people with this unique ability. I only wrote down one name unfortunately.... Here's another case, I got 4 hits on a Wyoming and the hit points did not drop 1 point... at medium range. AND, at the same time they're shots do triple damage to me. What a bunch of bull crap! Get these cheaters the heck out of here! Please

 

This is not unusual, and it is not cheating. It is you not knowing how the damage mechanics work.

[giovybez]

not to mention Clevelands have trollish citadels.

[Iron_Knickers]

I really enjoy this game and don't have a clue how to cheat. Starting yesterday I encountered certain ships that would take little or no damage from my shots. I was using the New York BB. A full broadside into a Cleveland at close range only knocked it down about 1/8 the damage scale. I had 4 hits! Strange? Heck yeah... I've encountered 4 different people with this unique ability. I only wrote down one name unfortunately.... Here's another case, I got 4 hits on a Wyoming and the hit points did not drop 1 point... at medium range. AND, at the same time they're shots do triple damage to me. What a bunch of bull crap! Get these cheaters the heck out of here! Please

 

This is a video game, not real life.

 

Even though in real life WWII, battleships would trump everything out there except carrier airplanes, in-game we can't have this because that would be unfair and nobody would play any other class besides battleships. 

 

However, once you become better at this game, you will find out, like I have, that battleships are pretty much god.

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