1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #1 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Hello, Some interesting info coming out from Himmelsdorf / RU forum this morning Curious to know what the various changes are that were made to the RU cruisers. Source - http://www.himmelsdorf.com/infos-on-patch-0-5-4-from-the-ru-forums/ Edited March 23, 2016 by Cobraclutch 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
517 Marcanbus_NA Members 1,866 posts 6,950 battles Report post #2 Posted March 23, 2016 I bet they made the Moskva even more powerful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
373 x2_Weekends Beta Testers 824 posts 2,509 battles Report post #3 Posted March 23, 2016 Curious to know if Saipan is no longer going to be sold and will be given via Personal Missions instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
420 [S0L0] missile742 Beta Testers 931 posts 9,057 battles Report post #4 Posted March 23, 2016 I think a "personal offer" to select cv players is the best way to keep Saipan out of noob hands, though I imaging WG will set a low bar to maximize sales Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
655 PelicanHazard Members 2,632 posts 10,276 battles Report post #5 Posted March 23, 2016 I think a "personal offer" to select cv players is the best way to keep Saipan out of noob hands, though I imaging WG will set a low bar to maximize sales I'm hoping they set it low enough that I can get it. If it's winrate-based, I should be fine, but damage-based... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #6 Posted March 23, 2016 I'm hoping they set it low enough that I can get it. If it's winrate-based, I should be fine, but damage-based... i bet it will be number of cv games based Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
61 The_Moe Members 630 posts 2,852 battles Report post #7 Posted March 23, 2016 -->Sapain will be available to good CV players through personal offers . Man, this really rubs me the wrong way. Why am I required to perform up to some developer's standards before being given the privilege of handing them money? If Wg is going to make a premium ship, then do so and sell it. It's already like pulling teeth on the NA server, just trying to buy a Tirpitz, Warspite or Mikhail Kutuzov. Wow. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
61 The_Moe Members 630 posts 2,852 battles Report post #8 Posted March 23, 2016 Hello, Some interesting info coming out from Himmelsdorf / RU forum this morning Curious to know what the various changes are that were made to the RU cruisers. Source - http://www.himmelsdorf.com/infos-on-patch-0-5-4-from-the-ru-forums/ Thank you for the info, BTW. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
422 [F-N-B] Argh_My_Liver Beta Testers 1,411 posts 8,485 battles Report post #9 Posted March 23, 2016 Be curious to know what a "good" cv player is considered to be. I was hoping to have a chance to get the Saipan but looking at my stats I'm a bit concerned. I know I am not a great CV player by any means but I don't think I'm terrible either... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,259 [SVF] landcollector Members 2,941 posts 2,776 battles Report post #10 Posted March 23, 2016 -->Sapain will be available to good CV players through personal offers . Man, this really rubs me the wrong way. Why am I required to perform up to some developer's standards before being given the privilege of handing them money? If Wg is going to make a premium ship, then do so and sell it. It's already like pulling teeth on the NA server, just trying to buy a Tirpitz, Warspite or Mikhail Kutuzov. Wow. Let's keep in mind this this info is taken from the RU server. However, I too would be rather angry if Wargaming suddenly decided "Only these people can buy it" after spending all month hyping her up to everyone on the server. Saipan is the only reason I'm even considering grinding through the USN CV line in the first place (buy the ship, then work my way up and start playing it once I get to T6 or T7 on the normal line). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #11 Posted March 23, 2016 Saipan is the only reason I'm even considering grinding through the USN CV line in the first place (buy the ship, then work my way up and start playing it once I get to T6 or T7 on the normal line). b-but... what for? saipan looks pretty different from the main line Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
373 x2_Weekends Beta Testers 824 posts 2,509 battles Report post #12 Posted March 23, 2016 Be curious to know what a "good" cv player is considered to be. I was hoping to have a chance to get the Saipan but looking at my stats I'm a bit concerned. I know I am not a great CV player by any means but I don't think I'm terrible either... I am terrible at CV's. But, I consider it a work in progress. I bounce between PVE and PVP to work at getting better at them. Since Saipan will only be available for a limited time, I was hoping to buy her and hold on to her until I got better. At least then I would get her while I could. But if I have to be "good" and prove myself in CV's now to get her, well it's unlikely I'll meet the standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
517 Marcanbus_NA Members 1,866 posts 6,950 battles Report post #13 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Be curious to know what a "good" cv player is considered to be. I was hoping to have a chance to get the Saipan but looking at my stats I'm a bit concerned. I know I am not a great CV player by any means but I don't think I'm terrible either... I hope they don't only look at damage to consider a player ''good'' I played almost every independance games with the fighter loadout and half my ranger games with it too... I have a crap winrate with them but it's only because of that.. Edited March 23, 2016 by Marcanbus_NA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
332 hoom Beta Testers 2,580 posts 4,750 battles Report post #14 Posted March 23, 2016 I think 'longer maintenance' should read 'longer loading times' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
422 [F-N-B] Argh_My_Liver Beta Testers 1,411 posts 8,485 battles Report post #15 Posted March 23, 2016 I am terrible at CV's. But, I consider it a work in progress. I bounce between PVE and PVP to work at getting better at them. Since Saipan will only be available for a limited time, I was hoping to buy her and hold on to her until I got better. At least then I would get her while I could. But if I have to be "good" and prove myself in CV's now to get her, well it's unlikely I'll meet the standard. Thats the thing for me, I consider myself to be an ok cv player. I actively contribute to the team and am not a wasted slot, apart from the Bogue and Langley which were my first 2 CVs I have 54+% WR in my CV's. I am also a little concerned because I don't play CV's much compared to my other classes and so I might not have the minimum number of games required to buy the Saipan if they go that route. Thats why I would like to know what a "good" player is so that I can try and meet the requirements, do I need to play my CVs more to get in the necessary number of games? Do I need to try and get better to have a high enough WR/damage done/planes shot down? Is there going to be a restriction where I need to have a higher tiered cv unlocked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
517 Marcanbus_NA Members 1,866 posts 6,950 battles Report post #16 Posted March 23, 2016 Thats the thing for me, I consider myself to be an ok cv player. I actively contribute to the team and am not a wasted slot, apart from the Bogue and Langley which were my first 2 CVs I have 54+% WR in my CV's. I am also a little concerned because I don't play CV's much compared to my other classes and so I might not have the minimum number of games required to buy the Saipan if they go that route. Thats why I would like to know what a "good" player is so that I can try and meet the requirements, do I need to play my CVs more to get in the necessary number of games? Do I need to try and get better to have a high enough WR/damage done/planes shot down? Is there going to be a restriction where I need to have a higher tiered cv unlocked? I think it would make sense to only sell it to people who have a tier 7 cv or more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
655 PelicanHazard Members 2,632 posts 10,276 battles Report post #17 Posted March 23, 2016 I think it would make sense to only sell it to people who have a tier 7 cv or more It would also jive with the monthly missions that gave discounts up to Tier 8 CVs. Get more players up there to qualify for Saipan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
442 EmperorMaxwell Alpha Tester 2,409 posts 8,275 battles Report post #18 Posted March 23, 2016 I think it would make sense to only sell it to people who have a tier 7 cv or more making it tier based is pointless since anybody can free XP to w/e tier they want. If WG is concerned about having another Kitkat fiasco, then making it a personal mission reward is better as only those that actually know how to CV will be able to complete the objectives and obtain it. EDIT: Making the missions actually difficult to complete would be good as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #19 Posted March 23, 2016 I am terrible at CV's. But, I consider it a work in progress. I bounce between PVE and PVP to work at getting better at them. Since Saipan will only be available for a limited time, I was hoping to buy her and hold on to her until I got better. At least then I would get her while I could. But if I have to be "good" and prove myself in CV's now to get her, well it's unlikely I'll meet the standard. Suggest to the powers that be a new scenario/option. Allow anyone to buy the ship BUT keep her in dry dock, that is no way you can play her, until you meet their requirements. Should you change your mind in the future too bad, you stuck with her. Once you meet the agreed upon criteria, you are free to sail her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78 [TRMN] 13th_Earl_White_Haven Beta Testers 501 posts 2,429 battles Report post #20 Posted March 23, 2016 I will be very unhappy if I can't buy the Saipan when it comes out. The fact that it says the offer will be made to "good" cv players does give me hope since that doesn't sound like a company's decree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 Carnotzet Members 2 posts Report post #21 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Hello everyone, I'm the one doing the translations over on the EU forums. Since I've noticed that my last translation stirred up some controversy, I'd like to comment on it. Before that, please excuse me for the lack of accuracy and idiomacy in my translations. English isn't my primary language and I try as much as possible to make myself clear, even if I don't succeed every time. Going back to the matter at hand, remember that everything that's said on the RU forums is aimed at the players on the RU server (even if sometimes it spreads to other regions as well), especially regarding offers, sales, events and such. Now, regarding eligibility to purchase Saipan, my translation is slightly off. A more accurate translation would be "players who do well in carriers". That could mean anything, ranging from number of battles, to having certain stats above a specific percentage, or maybe even something else. We just don't know. In the post, they said they'll give more information on the requirements later. We will just have to wait. However, as I said before, this may well not concern you at all (according to your patch notes). By the way, if you have any question or need some translations clarified, feel free to pm me or leave a message around here. I'll try to respond to you as soon as I can. Edited March 23, 2016 by Carnotzet 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 KazaMka Members 10 posts Report post #22 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Concerning Saipan: Yes, You should not worry, developers have told about restrictions for players from Russian server. They did not mean all others servers, but it does not mean that they will not change desicion. By the way, Saipan will be available on Russian server a little bit later (April or May, not at March) so you will get opportunity to buy Saipan earlier than we. At least if they will keep promise about March. Edited March 23, 2016 by KazaMka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #23 Posted March 23, 2016 Curious to know what the various changes are that were made to the RU cruisers. Data mined changes from 0.5.3.2 to 0.5.4.0 Kirov has less armor (around 10~30mm lower at places) The engine of Kirov and Schors are more vulnerable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
378 OscarMike_ Members 1,703 posts 8,985 battles Report post #24 Posted March 23, 2016 I hope they don't only look at damage to consider a player ''good'' I played almost every independance games with the fighter loadout and half my ranger games with it too... I have a crap winrate with them but it's only because of that.. Perhaps its not "good" as in skilled, but good as in players who have played LOTS of CV games. For example Any and All CV players who are up to Tier 9 and 10 obviously have invested a lot of time in it, so should be rewarded with a Premium CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
762 IceSerpen7 Members 3,959 posts 7,738 battles Report post #25 Posted March 23, 2016 For example Any and All CV players who are up to Tier 9 and 10 obviously have invested a lot of time in it, so should be rewarded with a Premium CV. Not necessarily - I could get a T10 CV right now without investing any time into that, if I wanted to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
