167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #1 Posted March 21, 2016 as the topic says which tier would the Yorktown class carriers be in if they were implemented (and please ffs WG dont make this bada$$ carrier class premium). from the way i see it could go like this because there is still room for expansion/improvements for carriers in the USN tech tree: T3: Langley T4: Bogue T5: Independence T6: Ranger T7: Lexington T8: Yorktown T9: Essex T10: Midway what do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
665 FallenZulu Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,837 posts 3,359 battles Report post #2 Posted March 21, 2016 I can see it in Tier 8. But it can also be a tier 9 because the U.S.S Enterprise got several major refits through out the war so it really depends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #3 Posted March 21, 2016 Tier 8. Long rumored as tier 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #4 Posted March 21, 2016 I have often heard it described in documentaries as "The same fighting power as the Lexington class carriers, but with a smaller size." I can easily picture them being tier 8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
646 [KIA-T] OseanTanker Beta Testers 1,857 posts 6,486 battles Report post #5 Posted March 21, 2016 Tier 8. The Yorktown's were essentially Lexington's (not the same design though) that had been purpose built to be aircraft carriers. Greater plane capacity in a smaller ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,366 [-K-] Mesrith Members, Beta Testers 3,105 posts 10,659 battles Report post #6 Posted March 21, 2016 The Lexingtons, Yorktowns, and Essexes are all pretty similar in combat power and you could argue for any of tier 7-9. I'd wager on tier 8 so that they can sell Enterprise as a premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,815 [-KIA-] ValkyrWarframe Members 5,245 posts 16,584 battles Report post #7 Posted March 21, 2016 Tier Ate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
483 ZombieFlanders Beta Testers 2,327 posts 3,235 battles Report post #8 Posted March 22, 2016 T8. the logical progression in yorktown to essex, and as mentioned then they can sell the enterprise as a premium if they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #9 Posted March 22, 2016 The Lexingtons, Yorktowns, and Essexes are all pretty similar in combat power and you could argue for any of tier 7-9. I'd wager on tier 8 so that they can sell Enterprise as a premium. actually a yuuuge difference in terms of the amount of aircraft they carried: Lexingtons: 78 aircraft Yorktowns: 90 aircraft Essexes: 90-100 aircraft (Lexington CV-16 could carry 110 aircraft) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #10 Posted March 22, 2016 I have often heard it described in documentaries as "The same fighting power as the Lexington class carriers, but with a smaller size." I can easily picture them being tier 8. those 2 carriers classes carried different amounts of aircraft and that makes a BIG difference in combat for instance lexingtons carried only 78 aircraft while yorktowns carried 90 thats a BIG leap if u ask me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
819 Aetreus Alpha Tester 4,302 posts 7,932 battles Report post #11 Posted March 22, 2016 actually a yuuuge difference in terms of the amount of aircraft they carried: Lexingtons: 78 aircraft Yorktowns: 90 aircraft Essexes: 90-100 aircraft (Lexington CV-16 could carry 110 aircraft) The Lexingtons were notionally rated for 78, but this was prewar. War service maximum carried by Saratoga was 90 aircraft, comprising 36 SB2C-1, 36 F6F-3, and 18 TBF-1C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #12 Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) The Lexingtons were notionally rated for 78, but this was prewar. War service maximum carried by Saratoga was 90 aircraft, comprising 36 SB2C-1, 36 F6F-3, and 18 TBF-1C. hmmmm i wonder how much maximum aircraft the enterprise could carry since yorktowns prewar were rated to carry only 90 aircraft. one documentary i watched, battlefield: the battle of midway claimed that yorktowns could carry up to 100 aircraft Edited March 22, 2016 by The_Big_Red_1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,366 [-K-] Mesrith Members, Beta Testers 3,105 posts 10,659 battles Report post #13 Posted March 22, 2016 actually a yuuuge difference in terms of the amount of aircraft they carried: Lexingtons: 78 aircraft Yorktowns: 90 aircraft Essexes: 90-100 aircraft (Lexington CV-16 could carry 110 aircraft) You can't just glance at Wikipedia's summary and get an accurate idea of the modifications and wartime changes these ships all went through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #14 Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) You can't just glance at Wikipedia's summary and get an accurate idea of the modifications and wartime changes these ships all went through. true dat pity that wikipedia didnt give out the final numbers of the all the wartime modifications the carriers underwent but at least it gives you an initial rough idea... Edited March 22, 2016 by The_Big_Red_1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #15 Posted March 22, 2016 The Lexingtons were notionally rated for 78, but this was prewar. War service maximum carried by Saratoga was 90 aircraft, comprising 36 SB2C-1, 36 F6F-3, and 18 TBF-1C. i just checked a pdf i still clung onto given by a good "associate" of mine of how much the aircraft saratoga carried and dam u were right on the money also i browsed this website http://www.cv6.org/ship/big_e.htm to see the maximum aircraft yorktowns could carry and it was 96 maximum but typically it was around 80-90 aircraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #16 Posted March 22, 2016 Of those planes on Saratoga and on the Yorktowns, I wonder how many were active in the CAG and how many were spares? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [TO07] dabigD_1055 Members 88 posts 10,032 battles Report post #17 Posted March 22, 2016 I would say the Yorktown Class would be Tier 8. They were built after the Lexingtons and better ships all things considered. Its a shame they are not in the line up. They could have did away with the midway cv's because they never came out until after the war ended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124 HBZK100 Members 1,482 posts 2,386 battles Report post #18 Posted March 23, 2016 The Yorktown is going to be added in the seccond Aircraft Carrier tech tree on the USN lineup. I'm assuming it's going to be tier 8, since this is the Yorktown were talking about, not the Enterprise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #19 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) The Yorktown is going to be added in the seccond Aircraft Carrier tech tree on the USN lineup. I'm assuming it's going to be tier 8, since this is the Yorktown were talking about, not the Enterprise. techically enterprise cv-6 is part of the yorktown class but i would be happy if in-game the yorktown class carriers have access to the hull/refit upgrades the enterprise underwent during 1943 as well as having access to the improved aircraft beginning from 1943 (eg. f6f) Edited March 23, 2016 by The_Big_Red_1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 Big_Dirk_Energy Members 88 posts 2,897 battles Report post #20 Posted March 23, 2016 The Yorktown class carriers truly belong at tier 8. They were preceded by the Ranger class, while succeeded by the Essex class. RE the OP, the only problem with your tier analysis is that CVs would not be balanced at tier 3. This would be my thoughts for the CV tree: T4: Langley T5: Bogue T6: Independence T7: Lexington T7 premium: Ranger (The USS Ranger was the only ship of her class ever to be built) T8: Yorktown T9: Essex T10: Midway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
97 hiroshi_tea Members 426 posts 2,869 battles Report post #21 Posted March 23, 2016 Is there even a yorktown model yet? Dev's in their development diaries say that they spend months to a year on model design. I also remember the devs saying that they'd rather flesh out the tech trees for the other nations before adding a class that most people don't play. We're probably looking at a full year before we see any new CVs for the current nations I cannot source this however, so take it as you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124 HBZK100 Members 1,482 posts 2,386 battles Report post #22 Posted March 24, 2016 techically enterprise cv-6 is part of the yorktown class but i would be happy if in-game the yorktown class carriers have access to the hull/refit upgrades the enterprise underwent during 1943 as well as having access to the improved aircraft beginning from 1943 (eg. f6f) True, I should of been more clear. I meant the refitted USS Enterprise when she received her new designation as (CVN-6). Then the Yorktown would be a stock enterprise basically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 [PNGYN] The_Big_Red_1 Alpha Tester 1,526 posts 3,480 battles Report post #23 Posted March 25, 2016 True, I should of been more clear. I meant the refitted USS Enterprise when she received her new designation as (CVN-6). Then the Yorktown would be a stock enterprise basically. as long as they are both in the game as a regular and as a premium ship thats fine by me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
406 Frenotx Members 1,344 posts 3,206 battles Report post #24 Posted March 30, 2016 Man I'd love if the Lexington got bumped down to T7. Really like that carrier, but really don't like the matches you get put into with a t8 ship. T7 is way more fun, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
97 hiroshi_tea Members 426 posts 2,869 battles Report post #25 Posted March 30, 2016 Tier 4-7 is the fun zone and I plan on hanging around there for awhile (at the risk if getting called a seal clubber) Funny how it was like this in world of tanks as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites