0 [RIO] KevinLannister2015 Members 1 post 4,949 battles Report post #1 Posted February 24, 2016 POINTLESS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,696 [FOXEH] BladedPheonix Alpha Tester 6,887 posts 22,793 battles Report post #2 Posted February 24, 2016 Far from pointless. most fleets rejoice if they have a competent USN CV on their team, it means they'll have less TB and DBs hunting them from IJN CVS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #3 Posted February 24, 2016 Sounds like this stems from user error. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,109 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #4 Posted February 24, 2016 Sounds like this stems from user error. somehow methinks his first post explains the purpose of this thread very concisely 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #5 Posted February 24, 2016 Sounds like this stems from user error. Indeed High tier US CV nerf wasn't bad. Check out iChase's latest vid; they're pretty powerful still. It's nice that they actually compensated the USN CVs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
386 Misniso Members 2,829 posts 6,653 battles Report post #6 Posted February 24, 2016 I'm still wondering what a high "tire" CV looks like. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Sir_Arty Members 118 posts 2,308 battles Report post #7 Posted February 24, 2016 I'll say this much. When I see a US CV on my side, I know the enemy is going to have a hard time using their torpedo Bombers and Dive bombers. When I see a US CV on the enemy's side, I don't expect support from any CV on my team. I can not say either for the Japamese CVs, US CVs are EXTREMELY important Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
360 Rion12 Members 2,072 posts 2,712 battles Report post #8 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) It's not like the Midway isn't the top-damaging Tier X still (1 week stats). Edited February 24, 2016 by Rion12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,956 battles Report post #9 Posted February 24, 2016 They made IJN carriers pointless at all tiers. They can't be all bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #10 Posted February 24, 2016 I'm still wondering what a high "tire" CV looks like. It's just ONE spelling error. If anything's hard to spell (so far from what he's posted), it's "sphinx". Don't nitpick, and that's a fail at trying to be sarcastic. I'll say this much. When I see a US CV on my side, I know the enemy is going to have a hard time using their torpedo Bombers and Dive bombers. When I see a US CV on the enemy's side, I don't expect support from any CV on my team. I can not say either for the Japamese CVs, US CVs are EXTREMELY important Wut? IJN CVs are "EXTREMELY" important too. There's just one major difference between the 2 lines: one is fighter-heavy emphasized while the other is bomber-heavy emphasized. Also, I find this to be extremely stupid. A snapping turtle vs a lizard? WG needs to just balance out the 2 to equal squads. It's fun on the USN end when you see IJN but it's horrifying when you see USN in IJN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,183 [PTRGT] mohawkdriver [PTRGT] Members 4,535 posts 17,269 battles Report post #11 Posted February 24, 2016 POINTLESS Making this statement based upon your vast experience, are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 29,124 battles Report post #12 Posted February 24, 2016 POINTLESS I have a slight suspicion that you don't give a [edited] about the poll results. Not sure why... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,109 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #13 Posted February 24, 2016 I have a slight suspicion have a suspicion that you quoted his purpose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,605 [HINON] Nuk_ Beta Testers 3,931 posts 8,150 battles Report post #14 Posted February 24, 2016 High tire CVs are in fact useless, because they do not exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 TFOkillswitch Alpha Tester 629 posts 5,428 battles Report post #15 Posted February 24, 2016 it don't matter any how seeing the cv is going to be completely reworked this year. so who know how they will be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
37 OffShorePanda97 Members 408 posts 7,514 battles Report post #16 Posted February 24, 2016 Indeed High tier US CV nerf wasn't bad. Check out iChase's latest vid; they're pretty powerful still. It's nice that they actually compensated the USN CVs true, us high tier cvs are fine except lexington, mid tier and low tier need love. Jap high tier are OP compared to usn CVs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
406 Frenotx Members 1,344 posts 3,206 battles Report post #17 Posted February 24, 2016 Considering my average stats with the independence and ranger, I'd say they are far from pointless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
519 BossmanSlim Members 1,549 posts 5,319 battles Report post #18 Posted February 24, 2016 USN CVs are not pointless. They are annoying or trollish, but not pointless (tier 4 to 8). Annoying - strike configuration where you spend a fair amount of your time trying to dodge enemy fighters before charging to a capture point once all your planes are dead, upside is you can potentially get a lot of exp Trollish - air superiority configuration where you shoot down all the enemy planes, spot DDs and hopefully have enough DBs left to do some damage, upside is you get to be confident in that you neutered the enemy CV, but know you will have to play 2-3x the number of games because shooting down planes doesn't pay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #19 Posted February 24, 2016 true, us high tier cvs are fine except lexington, mid tier and low tier need love. Jap high tier are OP compared to usn CVs I wouldn't say that IJN high tier are OP compared to USN, because they have less plane per squad. Even if they have more torp squads, it's probably harder because squads of 4 are easier to shoot down than squads of 6. However, in reality, I think it's the opposite. And yes, mid tiers need love (Bog - Ranger) Langley is stupid right now. Don't know if it's good or bad, but I think it's even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
406 Frenotx Members 1,344 posts 3,206 battles Report post #20 Posted February 24, 2016 I wouldn't say that IJN high tier are OP compared to USN, because they have less plane per squad. Even if they have more torp squads, it's probably harder because squads of 4 are easier to shoot down than squads of 6. However, in reality, I think it's the opposite. And yes, mid tiers need love (Bog - Ranger) Langley is stupid right now. Don't know if it's good or bad, but I think it's even. The IJN does have the option to put 12 torpedoes in the water vs the USN's 6, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,956 battles Report post #21 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) The IJN does have the option to put 12 torpedoes in the water vs the USN's 6, though. the exact same torpedoes with the exact same damage in every tier. A Midway 6 bomber torpedo drop does more alpha than all 12 Hakuryu torpedoes. Edited February 24, 2016 by Destroyer_Kiyoshimo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #22 Posted February 24, 2016 The IJN does have the option to put 12 torpedoes in the water vs the USN's 6, though. BUT, the USN CVs get the buff to their DBs. So all in all, it seems balanced in terms of ship damage. Though it may be more RNG-based, USN DBs still have great dispersion so it's fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,183 [PTRGT] mohawkdriver [PTRGT] Members 4,535 posts 17,269 battles Report post #23 Posted February 25, 2016 High tire CVs are in fact useless, because they do not exist. I can see a niche for an amphibious CV! Imagine the places they could hide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
797 [PSV] Personator Privateers 5,523 posts 6,129 battles Report post #24 Posted February 25, 2016 I can see a niche for an amphibious CV! Imagine the places they could hide. Ooh!! I know, I know! *jumps up & down gleefully* UNDERWATER! Right?!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
386 [O7] Zampy Beta Testers 1,804 posts 12,331 battles Report post #25 Posted February 25, 2016 I've averaged 100k damage with Lexi's 2/0/2 loadout since the patch. Dem fires yo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites