The cleveland

[AXELGREASE]

It still helps to win games BUT

 

it feels crappy to play.  It has less range than the T5 us cruisers, not really an upgrade as far as that is concerned. It has no torps, this again is a down grade.

 

Even with the captain skill for torp detection, you have little to no hope of avoiding all the torps shot at you.  You just can't see them soon enough.

 

Like I said it feels crappy to play, it is not the same ship and frankly it is way less fun.

 

Thanks fWG for killing a perfectly fin ship.  I have already tried the Nurnburg, I guess i am back to grinding to try the IJN ship  T6 ship.

[Macabe]

Cleveland hasn't been good for a few months. It used to be rediculously OP.

[BelgaraththeSorcerer]

PEBKAC

[Giantsgiants]

I just got the ship. I don't know if it's just me, but this thing seems to have "focus fire syndrome". It seems like when I play enemies focus on me even if there are bigger threats.

[Terrible_Turtle]

It was nearly pointless to fire at max range. Furiously rubbing your lucky rabbits foot was the only way to be effective due to the orbital trajectories. 

[BladedPheonix]

if your complaining about the Cleveland, then your a %^&* player then! that's thing is hands down one of the most OP ships in game and easiest to play/learn! They've even nerfed it 7 times and like the country it was made in, refuses to be tamed!

[KTcraft]

if your complaining about the Cleveland, then your a %^&* player then! that's thing is hands down one of the most OP ships in game and easiest to play/learn! They've even nerfed it 7 times and like the country it was made in, refuses to be tamed!

 

I don't think I agree with your sentiments...

[SirOverlord]

It still helps to win games BUT

 

it feels crappy to play.  It has less range than the T5 us cruisers, not really an upgrade as far as that is concerned. It has no torps, this again is a down grade.

 

Even with the captain skill for torp detection, you have little to no hope of avoiding all the torps shot at you.  You just can't see them soon enough.

 

Like I said it feels crappy to play, it is not the same ship and frankly it is way less fun.

 

Thanks fWG for killing a perfectly fin ship.  I have already tried the Nurnburg, I guess i am back to grinding to try the IJN ship  T6 ship.

 

you want not fun try a CV

[mohawkdriver]

 

I don't think I agree with your sentiments...

 

I'm quite sure I don't agree with his sentiments either, except for the part about the country in which it was made.

[IronWolfV]

It still helps to win games BUT

 

it feels crappy to play.  It has less range than the T5 us cruisers, not really an upgrade as far as that is concerned. It has no torps, this again is a down grade.

 

Even with the captain skill for torp detection, you have little to no hope of avoiding all the torps shot at you.  You just can't see them soon enough.

 

Like I said it feels crappy to play, it is not the same ship and frankly it is way less fun.

 

Thanks fWG for killing a perfectly fin ship.  I have already tried the Nurnburg, I guess i am back to grinding to try the IJN ship  T6 ship.

 

Umm less range than a tier 5 cruiser? Must be crying about Nurnburg, and if you played that ship you'd understand.

 

But honestly, now tier 7 can out range the Cleveland and have an advantage over it for once. Now there is a reason to move onto the Pensacola.

 

But Axel whining, nothing new here.

[LB_Binghamton]

I always liked the Omaha more than the Cleveland, yeah I know, that's insane. I just enjoyed the Omaha more, cits and all. I no longer enjoy the ship, it's just dull not being able to shoot at ships that are 14K away. I don't know or care about realism. I play a game for fun, the only ship I enjoyed playing isn't fun anymore. This is not some grand declaration as part of dramatic exit, It's just that I will be playing other games more than WoWS for a while.

[VonMelon]

The Cleveland now goes back to its historic roles. AA defense for the big boys, killing dds and other light cruisers trying to kill your dds. Burning down bbs at range was fun but not historic. If you get close enough you can still rain hell fire on bbs but now they have a better chance of sending you to Davey Jone's locker in 1 volley. But still several Clevelands together  make an awesome firestorm.

[Guest]

The Cleveland is rather...odd, after repeating nerfs, it is a definite shell of its former glory, when it used to rule tier 6, and even higher as one of the most powerful ships ingame. 

[userz123]

As if that 17 km is helpful? you can't hit anything at that range with Cleveland's flying cotton balls anyway.

[Naughtius_Maximus]

As if that 17 km is helpful? you can't hit anything at that range with Cleveland's flying cotton balls anyway.

 

If you think that's bad, USN DD and Atlanta shells fly even higher and hit like dandelions to boot.

[IronWolfV]

 

If you think that's bad, USN DD and Atlanta shells fly even higher and hit like dandelions to boot.

 

Back off my Atlanta! 

[crzyhawk]

I just want the turret rotation returned, same with Mogami and the other CLs that got nerfed, although I do feel a bit less sorry for old crap like the Omaha with hand-cranked rather than powered turrets.

[Capitan_Incognito]

I just want the turret rotation returned, same with Mogami and the other CLs that got nerfed, although I do feel a bit less sorry for old crap like the Omaha with hand-cranked rather than powered turrets.

 

Eh... the Mogami has a genuine problem with its turret rotation speed which is now worse than the Amagi. For the Cleveland it's more of an annoyance, but yeah, I dislike ships whose turrets can't keep up in sharp turns.

 

In the brief time captain skills were reset and not assigned, I looked at it and noticed the Phoenix has faster gun rotation than the Omaha, to which I can attribute my doing better in the former.

[suleiman71]

Cleveland is trash in the current meta. How I still have the urge to play it is completely beyond me.

[INoCU]

if you're complaining about the Cleveland, then you're a %^&* player then! that thing is hands down one of the most OP ships in game and easiest to play, you don't even need to learn! They've even nerfed it 7 times and like the country it was made in, refuses to be tamed!

Fixed it

 

Let's be honest though, because of how forgiving it is, most people learned nothing from it. They start learning with the Pensacola

[Capitan_Incognito]

I hated playing it before as I tended to lose patience with the suborbital shell arcs and just YOLO so I could have some good shots with it, but I still haven't finished setting things on fire and time is running out (Too much WoT/non-fire spammers.)

[Herr_Reitz]

The Cleveland now goes back to its historic roles. AA defense for the big boys, killing dds and other light cruisers trying to kill your dds. Burning down bbs at range was fun but not historic. If you get close enough you can still rain hell fire on bbs but now they have a better chance of sending you to Davey Jone's locker in 1 volley. But still several Clevelands together  make an awesome firestorm.

 

What a glorious job description for the Cleveland... only problem is AA defense isn't a big thing these days as it seems CV players are slowly fading away. You cannot get close enough to rain hell fire on a BB... at least my observations indicate she doesn't start fires like she did pre-update. Enemy DD are pretty tough to kill when they travel in packs of two or more... and have you noticed... many of the red team now moves forward with their DD... so your cleveland is in range of anything with more than a 14km range. 

 

The new MM "meta" (hate that phrase but what else can you call it - programming? Logic?) works at ensuring several clevelands dont end up together, unless of course you division together. 

 

I only know my experience which is not your experience. Prior to the update, I used the Cleveland and Fuso to get the fires I needed to obtain Myoko. 

I've played my cleveland a number of times since upgrade and i have yet to start a fire... last match I had 68 plus HITS and ZERO fires. 

 

[Raptor_alcor]

It still helps to win games BUT

 

it feels crappy to play.  It has less range than the T5 us cruisers, not really an upgrade as far as that is concerned. It has no torps, this again is a down grade.

 

Even with the captain skill for torp detection, you have little to no hope of avoiding all the torps shot at you.  You just can't see them soon enough.

 

Like I said it feels crappy to play, it is not the same ship and frankly it is way less fun.

 

Thanks fWG for killing a perfectly fin ship.  I have already tried the Nurnburg, I guess i am back to grinding to try the IJN ship  T6 ship.

 

HAH, another one crying about how an unintentional effect of AFT being removed. Welcome to my world and the world of the beta players, get used to it or quit.