23 [TDNS] Don_GMM3 Beta Testers 55 posts 13,124 battles Report post #1 Posted February 18, 2016 Why did the devs make Japanese DDs so OP. Making them almost impossible to see even from the lookout from the top of a BB. I should be able to see a DD at 5 k should see it 15 k but that you wont do that. The new DD sighting range make this problem a game break. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,102 Goose21891 Members 11,964 posts 6,273 battles Report post #2 Posted February 18, 2016 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,197 Legendary_Typo Members 10,919 posts 4,873 battles Report post #3 Posted February 18, 2016 You should try your A key more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,816 Tanz Beta Testers 2,008 posts Report post #4 Posted February 18, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
483 ZombieFlanders Beta Testers 2,327 posts 3,235 battles Report post #5 Posted February 18, 2016 they are only OP to BB players who suffer from tunnel vision. they are really weak outside of their stealth and torpedoes, maybe mix in a course adjustment or two, be aware of your position on the map and use situational awareness skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,466 [KTKM] IKU19 Beta Testers 4,633 posts 4,078 battles Report post #6 Posted February 18, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #7 Posted February 18, 2016 News flash, this is an arcade game. Realism doesn't matter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308 EzioAuditore1456 Beta Testers 1,466 posts 7,318 battles Report post #8 Posted February 18, 2016 News flash, this is an arcade game. Realism doesn't matter. what are you saying? I thought purple neon ships were historical Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,890 [-K--] vak_ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,179 posts 10,923 battles Report post #9 Posted February 18, 2016 Why did the devs make Japanese DDs so OP. Making them almost impossible to see even from the lookout from the top of a BB. Your tier 6 and tier 7 BBs deal about twice the damage when compared to your IJN DDs of the same tier. Clearly, the latter are super-duper OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,837 CylonRed Members 7,007 posts 15,463 battles Report post #10 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Then why does my Minekaze get spotted at the correct KM every time????? They are not overpowered and heck - after 3-4 games tonight the torps are easy to avoid from the last patch and the aiming guide seems to be even farther off. I am spotted at 6 KM on inward just like I should. And no - they are small boats on a large ocean and they are harder and harder to see teh father away they are. Edited February 18, 2016 by CylonRed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
580 [SHAN] Cirran Beta Testers 942 posts Report post #11 Posted February 18, 2016 With all that popcorn you eat how do you keep your girlish figure? Cirran Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #12 Posted February 18, 2016 There's a grain of thruth to the original poster's statement. The nearly unavoidable Shimakaze (and to an extent, Kagero) torpedo walls are now almost completely unavoidable at over 70 knots unless you opt to not stay with the rest of the fleet and thus avoid being area-targeted from up to 16 km away. Good job WG, buffing the principal issue that was causing the high tier passivity and salt even before the buff. Sadly, I don't see myself taking out any T10 CAs or BBs anytime soon as a result. I'm sitting on an enormous pile of credits ready to spend them on Zao and Hindenburg, but it ain't going to happen at this rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308 EzioAuditore1456 Beta Testers 1,466 posts 7,318 battles Report post #13 Posted February 18, 2016 With all that popcorn you eat how do you keep your girlish figure? Cirran irl hes a 45 year old father with 4 children and a barrel belly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
269 Merlox Members 832 posts 5,277 battles Report post #14 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) There's a grain of thruth to the original poster's statement. The nearly unavoidable Shimakaze (and to an extent, Kagero) torpedo walls are now almost completely unavoidable at over 70 knots unless you opt to not stay with the rest of the fleet and thus avoid being area-targeted from up to 16 km away. Good job WG, buffing the principal issue that was causing the high tier passivity and salt even before the buff. Sadly, I don't see myself taking out any T10 CAs or BBs anytime soon as a result. I'm sitting on an enormous pile of credits ready to spend them on Zao and Hindenburg, but it ain't going to happen at this rate. That's one of the many reasons why mid tiers are best tiers in this game, Who wants to honestly play at tier 8-10 and have the worst time. and WG wonders why nobody wants to play high tiers, it's absolute garbage. at least tier 6 and so they have a 1-2 Km of invisibility so it isn't that bad. Edited February 18, 2016 by Merlox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #15 Posted February 18, 2016 Pick up T3 captain skill Vigilance. It's totally OP right now and it feels like before they decreased the torp detection range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 intertex Beta Testers 408 posts 6,981 battles Report post #16 Posted February 18, 2016 Have 5 Tier 10 battles today with Zao, DM and Hind. Didn't find torps any different from before.....if anything, they are easier to reveal and avoid now with the upgraded Vigilance. Not that they are real hard to avoid in the first place. Damn I forgot to try my shimmy with that new torps before going out for work! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,507 [SYN] Kuckoo Members 6,177 posts 14,455 battles Report post #17 Posted February 18, 2016 Why did the devs make Japanese DDs so OP. Making them almost impossible to see even from the lookout from the top of a BB. I should be able to see a DD at 5 k should see it 15 k but that you wont do that. The new DD sighting range make this problem a game break. Nice try, "Mr. Mutsuki" +1 anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
169 [JEEP] tooboku [JEEP] Members 1,124 posts 9,109 battles Report post #18 Posted February 18, 2016 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
27 [RYZIN] SDMCM_SakuyaIzayoi Members 162 posts 4,693 battles Report post #19 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) im bored and just gonna be a [edited]and try to sound dumb. To nerf dds is to 1. Manual scout plane to light him up. 2. strafe them and nuke the torps for cvs 3. rng dud torps? higher chance for USN dd? But this post isn't meant to be taking literally Edited February 18, 2016 by iR_Willow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #20 Posted February 18, 2016 Pick up T3 captain skill Vigilance. It's totally OP right now and it feels like before they decreased the torp detection range. Tested briefly, feels better but still not good enough. Shima walls for instance often can't be avoided due to being caught in a random maneuver from eons away. Even if they are spotted early, you just don't have enough maneuverability in a BB, CA or VMF DD to avoid the wall entirely, so thick and broad it is compared to what one may be used to in mid-tiers. Maybe you end up eating one. But wait, eating just one of her torpedoes ruins your day anyway because of the enormous damage. At the very least, Shimakaze and Kagero need a torpedo range nerf so that the new supercharged light speed torpedo ability becomes a tradeoff rather than a no-brainer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73 NeoSolstice Alpha Tester 952 posts 973 battles Report post #21 Posted February 18, 2016 Lol, leave DDs alone! We need silent killers to get large juicy targets like BBs and CVs (keeps me on my toes), and scout, and sneak cap and *insert DD role here*! (Keeps like the cruiser populated XD) Just buff the secondary batteries! As for long distance long lances, just keep your awareness high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
154 flyingvomit Beta Testers 522 posts 4,579 battles Report post #22 Posted February 18, 2016 That GIF been running since the first week of CBT. War never changes and BB still sail in straight lines. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #23 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Nice gif. As can be ascertained from my stats, I rarely sail in straight lines, "[edited]". "Keep your awareness high". I'm assuming also don't be anywhere near other ships to avoid being area-torpwalled? Great advice. I think I have reached enlightenment here. Give Shimakaze a buff nao! Edited February 18, 2016 by gurudennis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73 NeoSolstice Alpha Tester 952 posts 973 battles Report post #24 Posted February 18, 2016 Nice gif. As can be ascertained from my stats, I rarely sail in straight lines, "[edited]". "Keep your awareness high". I'm assuming also don't be anywhere near other ships to avoid being area-torpwalled? Great advice. I think I have reached enlightenment here. Give Shimakaze a buff nao! XD I really don't know what to say for 5km+ torpedo spreads. The spread does gets pretty wide. *fingers crossed to just get hit once or none* 2km? Good luck! Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 tribal556 Members 43 posts 1,210 battles Report post #25 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) One DD was shooting from smoke, it doesn't even make him appear....at ~8km...maybe less.. i could see where it was, from tracers, but he stayed invisible while firing his guns for some time, the time i get closer (in Nagato) it has already moved to the invisible zone....out of smoke and torping silently. all of this at the edge of map, still it escaped detection somehow. i don't care torpedoes, but how a ship can disappear like that... it s puzzling If people want to play ninjas... find a ninja game.... ffs. Edited February 18, 2016 by tribal556 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
