In defense of WG

[TheMadCappR]

My buddy and I, one of my final friends to still be hanging on to WOWS were having quite the pre-patch argument about the fact that WG is moving to "pay to win". The heated conversation has put a strain on our friendship and I told him one day he will come to see it for what it is. He adamantly contended the statement about the Premium ship Mikhail Kutuzov "In version 0.5.3, we improved its performance characteristics to compensate for the reduced effectiveness of the skilled Commander..." was misunderstood. He further went on to defend WG by saying "there's NO Way" they would let that boat keep "Advanced Firing Training +20% distance perk" and take it from everyone else. Boy is his face gona be red today with shame that he actually believed in WG's spinning of propaganda to confuse the issue. Maybe he thinks it was lost in translation, but all it took was reading the sentences that WG developers used. Good luck WG with your pay to win business strat....

 

[Death_Toll_Rizing]

Your friendship is strained, by a digital ship in a game?

[Macabe]

There's literally no pay to win elements in the game. Premium ships? Not p2w. Premium account? Not p2w. Premium consumables? Available for credits therefore not p2w.

[StingRayOne]

My buddy banged my girlfriend , that's the kind of thing that strains a friendship but a game , really?

[10T0nHammer]

Not much a friendship you got there bud. One of my closest friend has a chronic drug problem and its really straining our friendship. But yeah, you two bicker about pixal boats....

[vak_]

"there's NO Way" they would let that boat keep "Advanced Firing Training +20% distance perk" and take it from everyone else

 

This has been explained to death. Maybe try using search? Kutuzov was specifically released under-powered, and would only hit the intended power level with AFT/BFT/EM. This was judged to be a better alternative than releasing the ship configured for 0.5.3, and getting a month of OP Kutuzovs with 23km range running around the server.

 

A huge buff to cruisers' main caliber with a tier four skill was just a bad idea in general, I feel sorry for new players that had to encounter seal clubbers in St Louises with AFT captains. WG would have to fix this sooner or later.

[KingofKings55]

Your friendship is strained, by a digital ship in a game?

Lol, thats kinda sad if a game puts a strain on a relationship........and like Macabe said there are no pay to win elements, weather you win or not is solely based on each individual players skill, you ether have it or you dont and you get better or you just dont have it and never will

[The_GoDDfather]

Ships are supposed to make friends.

That's why it's a "friend-ship".

[ryuukei8569]

If other CL's (not USN) turn out to be underpowered because of the AFT, BFT and EM nerf, they will get buffed soon enough.

[Dr_Venture]

My buddy banged my girlfriend , that's the kind of thing that strains a friendship but a game , really?

 

That doesn't sound like a buddy, that sounds like an ***hole. 

[hillaan]

 

This has been explained to death. Maybe try using search? Kutuzov was specifically released under-powered, and would only hit the intended power level with AFT/BFT/EM. This was judged to be a better alternative than releasing the ship configured for 0.5.3, and getting a month of OP Kutuzovs with 23km range running around the server.

 

A huge buff to cruisers' main caliber with a tier four skill was just a bad idea in general, I feel sorry for new players that had to encounter seal clubbers in St Louises with AFT captains. WG would have to fix this sooner or later.

 

There explanation is weak at best, sounds like something you say after the fact which it was. This thing now has more range then any curser in the game. All the while all other cursers that use AFT got the shaft. Nice try but very very weak.

[1Sherman]

There is NOTHING that WG can do short of reversing their decision entirely that will make me forgive them removing the Lexington's 2/1/1 loadout. I now have no reason or motivation to grind past the Ranger.

 

[Mannstien]

 

There explanation is weak at best, sounds like something you say after the fact which it was. This thing now has more range then any curser in the game. All the while all other cursers that use AFT got the shaft. Nice try but very very weak.

 

They don't really have an excuse other than to make it the only T8 CL that can shoot that far at that rate of fire with that insane level of AA with smoke and torpedo's.....Wait what , wasn't selling well at that big price so maybe they want to add incentives

[vak_]

There explanation is weak at best

 

It's actually quite logical. They knew that 0.5.3 was coming, and what changes will it bring. Now, here are the options they had:

1) Don't release Kutuzov until 0.5.3, losing revenue

2) Release Kutuzov under-powered (intended level with AFT/BFT/EM), then buff after 0.5.3

3) Release Kutuzov intended level (over-powered with AFT/BFT/EM), wait for 0.5.3 to bring it back to normal.

 

WG chose option #2. Why do you consider options 1 or 3 better? The drawbacks of the first one to the company are obvious.The third one would lead to people having to deal with crazy OP Kutuzovs that have 23km fire range, fast fire rate, and fast turret rotation for about a month before 0.5.3 -- since most of their owners would quickly grind to the required captain skills, and many already had appropriate captains standing by. Seems like that would lead to a lot more negative PR than the current Kutuzov/Mogami controversy.

 

PS *their explanation

 

[vak_]

I now have no reason or motivation to grind past the Ranger.

 

 

So, don't. Problem solved.

[TheMadCappR]

There's literally no pay to win elements in the game. Premium ships? Not p2w. Premium account? Not p2w. Premium consumables? Available for credits therefore not p2w.

 

Just because you fail to see the trend of leaving their traditional venue of premium vehicles just being credit and crew XP farmers and somewhat slightly less than same tier tech tree vehicles behind is your fault. Now if you can't see they are developing better performing premium vehicles is also your fault just as my friend is blinded by his fanboy affliction. Do you even realize they are not releasing tech tree vehicles and only releasing premium ships every couple weeks? Or does your fanboy affliction make you blind to noticeable trends?

[TheMadCappR]

Not much a friendship you got there bud. One of my closest friend has a chronic drug problem and its really straining our friendship. But yeah, you two bicker about pixal boats....

 

Actually over the integrity of WG...he sees them as fair and honest and I see them as backstabbing, crooked, biased and gouging to the people that support them.

[Macabe]

 

Just because you fail to see the trend of leaving their traditional venue of premium vehicles just being credit and crew XP farmers and somewhat slightly less than same tier tech tree vehicles behind is your fault. Now if you can't see they are developing better performing premium vehicles is also your fault just as my friend is blinded by his fanboy affliction. Do you even realize they are not releasing tech tree vehicles and only releasing premium ships every couple weeks? Or does your fanboy affliction make you blind to noticeable trends?

 

It's much faster to implement a single premium than an entire line of ships. It takes months just to model let alone balance each implemented ship. If it takes months just to get one ship out, how can you be so blind to how long it's going to take to push out entire lines?

[TheMadCappR]

 

It's much faster to implement a single premium than an entire line of ships. It takes months just to model let alone balance each implemented ship. If it takes months just to get one ship out, how can you be so blind to how long it's going to take to push out entire lines?

 

Why even develop the tech tree when you can buy better boats?

[crzyhawk]

My buddy and I, one of my final friends to still be hanging on to WOWS were having quite the pre-patch argument about the fact that WG is moving to "pay to win". The heated conversation has put a strain on our friendship and I told him one day he will come to see it for what it is. He adamantly contended the statement about the Premium ship Mikhail Kutuzov "In version 0.5.3, we improved its performance characteristics to compensate for the reduced effectiveness of the skilled Commander..." was misunderstood. He further went on to defend WG by saying "there's NO Way" they would let that boat keep "Advanced Firing Training +20% distance perk" and take it from everyone else. Boy is his face gona be red today with shame that he actually believed in WG's spinning of propaganda to confuse the issue. Maybe he thinks it was lost in translation, but all it took was reading the sentences that WG developers used. Good luck WG with your pay to win business strat....

Pay to win at what?  With its range it was better than only New Orleans at t8.  It already struggles, it can't afford to be nerfed.

[Macabe]

 

Why even develop the tech tree when you can buy better boats?

 

Because they're not better? Premiums are balanced and expected to perform well at same tiers but average at the upper spectrum of their matchmaking. 

[TheMadCappR]

Your argument of no pay to win is sinking due to the element of being able to buy better ships than can be ground out...and why would people stick around for that. Soon it will be just obedient fanboys playing their fantastically performing premium boats waiting in ques for long times. All the players you claim to support with premium and boat sales will be gone.

[crzyhawk]

They are not better. The stats show it performs worse than hipper, atago, and mogami. It beats only New Orleans.

 

So where is this pay to win of which you speak?

[Macabe]

Your argument of no pay to win is sinking due to the element of being able to buy better ships than can be ground out...and why would people stick around for that. Soon it will be just obedient fanboys playing their fantastically performing premium boats waiting in ques for long times. All the players you claim to support with premium and boat sales will be gone.

 

Instead of saying we are fanboys, how about you actually produce some evidence that all premium ships are OP?

[TheMadCappR]

 

Because they're not better? Premiums are balanced and expected to perform well at same tiers but average at the upper spectrum of their matchmaking. 

 

Balanced? 4km more of shooting distance is balanced to what? A ship of it's own biased caliber being able to shoot rapid fire from smoke at an unseen distance of 19.1km...balanced right!