Why are DBs such worthless Pieces of Dung?

[barbeerian]

Seriously, why? Routinely I'll setup a manual drop that's spot on perfect, the drop zone literally smaller and completely inside an enemy cruiser at the moment of impact and BAM I scratch his paint for the tiniest amount of damage like an Erie's HE round hitting a Yamato. I'm not a huge fan of CVs to begin with but this is really aggravating. Are they all piloted by developmentally challenged individuals with walleye vision? What a useless unit.

[The_GoDDfather]

'Cause HE bomb.

Most air to sea bombings were AP.

[Red_Raven_168]

you're gonna love the DB change in 5.3

[anonym_DEfqyfR0NzTG]

Seriously, why? Routinely I'll setup a manual drop that's spot on perfect, the drop zone literally smaller and completely inside an enemy cruiser at the moment of impact and BAM I scratch his paint for the tiniest amount of damage like an Erie's HE round hitting a Yamato. I'm not a huge fan of CVs to begin with but this is really aggravating. Are they all piloted by developmentally challenged individuals with walleye vision? What a useless unit.

 

I would have to agree.  There are so many times I have manually dropped perfectly to have only one bomb hit for virtually no damage.  I don't think I've ever had more than 3 bombs hit.  I guess the pilots are mentally handicapped.  Downes Syndrome perhaps?

[KTcraft]

You know what they say:

"One man's poop is another man's dinner"

[WanderingGhost]

Have to ask - which carrier? IJN DB's are just short of worthless, but then again IJN's thing is more about the TB's.

 

If it's USN, yeah, DB's don't do a whole lot to BB's and at times cruisers, because they are HE bombs and the hope is that eventually they'll have a AP option. But using auto drop even though I'm only scoring 1-2 hits at times I'm hitting for 1-2k minimum. If it's USN that sounds like terrible RNG.

[barbeerian]

You know what they say:

"One man's poop is another man's dinner"

 

Remind me never to come to your house for dinner.

 

Have to ask - which carrier? IJN DB's are just short of worthless, but then again IJN's thing is more about the TB's.

 

If it's USN, yeah, DB's don't do a whole lot to BB's and at times cruisers, because they are HE bombs and the hope is that eventually they'll have a AP option. But using auto drop even though I'm only scoring 1-2 hits at times I'm hitting for 1-2k minimum. If it's USN that sounds like terrible RNG.

 

Independance, Zuiho, and Bogue.

[BelgaraththeSorcerer]

Yes that 22k in once strike I did to that Nagato today in my ranger is worthless....

[WanderingGhost]

Indi and Bogue your basically getting the short draw on RNG, or maybe DB's are the inverse of TB and fighters in that it's ALT attack is exactly less powerful instead of idiotically OP. Wouldn't know on that front because I rarely use them unless I have reason or the guy is dumb enough to sit still (because if your parked, you earned eating 6 torps at point blank). No manual drop long as they hit yeah, comparatively low damage and in the grand scheme of the game, underpowered at the moment - with the exception of the rare high roll and detonation or catching a guy after he's burned a repair and light him on fire. Not quite useless, but not quite useful without luck.

 

IJN, their focus is torps, not DB's. They have maybe 60% of the damage of USN DB's with maybe half the accuracy. Sent 2 squads of them at a parked DD, didn't use manual because I assumed he'd start moving as the TB's and DB's approached, DB's show up, he stays still, they completely miss him.

[marcmad]

DBs are for the fire not the damage. If you got 2 DBs, send the first, lit 2 fire. Wait he repair then send your other to lit 2-3 fires. Enjoy while he burn to death. If you got Tbs, you can also add flooding for maximum rage.

Mostly work on isolated ship with no air cover tho...

 

USN DBs do a lot more damage than IJN DBs but IJn have a very accurate manual aim. IJN DDs tend to always completly miss DDs when autodropping but the manual drop circle is basically half the size of the Destroyer. The problem in this case is to hit him with a 5 second attack launch time while hes moving and dodging at 30 knots.

 

[Granitebeard]

Are they tho? See below attached image, yea its a Ranger, but it can be done Granted this is the best showing I had in it yet.

 

Also, back in alpha I saw an Erie kill and Yamato once (yea it didn't 100% it, but it was the one that killed it.

[Raptor_alcor]

Well considering the forums are not agreed if AP bombs should come in (seriously, the chance of a 4x or 6X cit are near zero with bombers, just let them appear) I doubt wargaming is much better. 

[Brofisticus]

I can't wait for AP bombs. It will sound like rain on a tin roof with the way plunging AP works on my ships. I wont have to worry about fire from CVs anymore... That leaves only three more ship classes to throw HE spam at my cruisers! 

[Francois424]

Because RNG.  Now you know how it is to play a Battleship.

 

On a side note, I've seen carriers drop some very very good bombs on me.  Like -10k hp +fires.

 

Yup RNG.

[Reymu]

Generally your playstyle isn't using them effectively.

 

Use your common sense.

[barbeerian]

My playstyle isn't using them effectively when I get multiple hits for little to no damage and no fires? Umm, sure if you say so.

[Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Chokai]

DB's CAN be useful. Fire up a ship (yeah, use alt-drop). Watch him repair. Torp. Or reverse order. If he doesn't repair them just fall back. The goal is to burn his repair for flooding. OR flood him, watch him repair, then fire him up! That's what I used to do in CV's mechanics mah have changed, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

[Misniso]

My playstyle isn't using them effectively when I get multiple hits for little to no damage and no fires? Umm, sure if you say so.

 

Hit a different target.  It sounds like that target was HE saturated by a fire-spewing cruiser or by your bombs.

[Navynuke99]

Keep in mind that the game doesn't model damage from near hits that would create concussion waves that would potentially cave in the sides of the hull or damage equipment, trip generators and breakers, throw off gyros, and otherwise wreak havoc inside the hull.

[Reymu]

My playstyle isn't using them effectively when I get multiple hits for little to no damage and no fires? Umm, sure if you say so.

 

Force him to waste his repair, at best, sometimes all the DB can do. It varies if RNG is screwing you over and not your playstyle. Sorry, just accustomed to whiners to the point I forget not everyone is one.

[AmurTiger]

Lack of AP is a big issue, particularly against cruisers. Most AP bombs actually weren't well suited to going through a battleships deck armor but cruisers were another story.

[Kuckoo]

'Cause HE bomb.

Most air to sea bombings were AP.

 

This.

 

DBs in the game apparently use HE bombs suited for ground targets on land.  SAP bombs would positively wreck ships, but DBs in this game don't get them.

[barbeerian]

 

Force him to waste his repair, at best, sometimes all the DB can do. It varies if RNG is screwing you over and not your playstyle. Sorry, just accustomed to whiners to the point I forget not everyone is one.

 

 

To me that's the whole annoying thing about DBs. TBs it's all about whether you played correctly and hit or not, the better you played it the more damage you do. DBs it's like did you roll 20s and get a critical hit or did you roll snake eyes and your bombs failed to detonate.

[Reymu]

Tried coordinating with another player to put your DB on enemy BB that has repair on CD?