1,113 [CHASE] Komrade_Rylo Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,973 posts 13,112 battles Report post #1 Posted January 17, 2016 17) are there any ships or classes that are under or over performing currently at their given tiers? and if so how do you plan to fix them? 17) There are no huge imbalances, but we are working on balancing; So apparently WG is drunk, like always. Two ships that severely under perform at their tier are the Des Moines and the Montana... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67 Spongeman131 Beta Testers 336 posts Report post #2 Posted January 17, 2016 Don't forget the Sims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
665 FallenZulu Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,837 posts 3,359 battles Report post #3 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Montana can perform well against any other ship other than the Yamato. Actually if you look at the stats the Montana is not so far off from the Yamato. As for the Des Moines well I can not say anything on that as I have limited experience playing against it. Edited January 17, 2016 by FallenZulu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #4 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) There's underpowered and then there's working as intended. If it's working as intended, it is really underpowered? Edited January 17, 2016 by Macabe 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,482 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,859 posts 27,305 battles Report post #5 Posted January 17, 2016 TIL that 'no huge imbalances' is exactly the same as 'there are no underperforming ships whatsoever'. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
376 [S_E_A] byronicasian Beta Testers 2,709 posts 4,566 battles Report post #6 Posted January 17, 2016 There's a underpowered and then there's working as intended. If it's working as intended, it is really underpowered? :insertkeanugifhere: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #7 Posted January 17, 2016 Atlanta and Sims are probably the worst off. Montana's problem is it's being compared to Yamato. Nothing compares to Yamato, except some paper designs for super capital ships. Des Moines problem... well I think it's probably just too easy to citadel up close, while it's guns are kind of hard to use at range, thanks to the arcs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,045 dmckay Members 4,729 posts 8,265 battles Report post #8 Posted January 17, 2016 17) are there any ships or classes that are under or over performing currently at their given tiers? and if so how do you plan to fix them? 17) There are no huge imbalances, but we are working on balancing; So apparently WG is drunk, like always. Two ships that severely under perform at their tier are the Des Moines and the Montana... We should have generic ships that ALL perform the same way. Just give em generic names. WG is drunk, broken, etc etc. BLAH BLAH.....SO ON AND SO FORTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #9 Posted January 17, 2016 btw, Des Moines is pretty scary up close, if you're in a cruiser or DD yourself, thanks to that fire rate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [BARF] 1nc0mp3t3nt_1 Beta Testers 5,816 posts 5,497 battles Report post #10 Posted January 17, 2016 why is it that the SIMS is the forgotten red headed inbred step-cousin of WoWS? It used to be good- why did they nerf it so badly in the first place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
41 Angry_Vet Members 235 posts 5,562 battles Report post #11 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) So, the ATL, they're increasing the AA , Wow .... why don't we get more CVs at T7/8/9 first so it just might make a difference. It's almost impossible to find CVs in games when I bring the ATL out of the barn. Most T6 cruisers will take it out let alone T7/8/9. Best you can do is hide behind something and beat the mostly dead horse as it comes around the island Edited January 17, 2016 by BWGreene Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #12 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) So, the ATL, they're increasing the AA , Wow .... why don't we get more CVs at T7/8/9 first so it just might make a difference. It's almost impossible to find CVs in games when I bring the ATL out of the barn. Most T6 cruisers will take it out let alone T7/8/9. Best you can do is hide behind something and beat the mostly dead horse as it comes around the island I don't know about you, but I've been getting quite a few matches with either no CV at all, or 4 CV, 2 per team. It feels like it's rarer to get matches with 1CV on each team for me. What annoys me, is that I'm usually not in my AAA platform cruisers when i get these matches. Edited January 17, 2016 by MrDeaf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
163 [UDEAD] Paint_Huffer [UDEAD] Beta Testers 341 posts 4,798 battles Report post #13 Posted January 17, 2016 btw, Des Moines is pretty scary up close, if you're in a cruiser or DD yourself, thanks to that fire rate. Oh, really? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,113 [CHASE] Komrade_Rylo Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,973 posts 13,112 battles Report post #14 Posted January 17, 2016 Montana can perform well against any other ship other than the Yamato. Actually if you look at the stats the Montana is not so far off from the Yamato. As for the Des Moines well I can not say anything on that as I have limited experience playing against it. You are correct. The Montana Performs relatively well against everything but Yamatos. BUT if you ever play high tiers there is always a Yamato in the game. You always run into them in your Montana and they focus on you first because you are a massive ball of xp, and proceed to kill you. The reason why you never see Montanas at higher tiers (unless it's me because I'm a self masochist and just cannot get over the fact that it's just not a good ship) is because if you end up in a game with a Yamato, which you always do, then you have to spend your whole game in fear of running into that Yamato, leading to you being useless the entire game if you don't want to pay 275k in repairs. I know you are gonna say well you should be worried about winning over credits, but when you die going against the Yamato and end up doing jack **** against it, and then lose 200k credits trying to secure the team the win it can be demoralizing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67 Spongeman131 Beta Testers 336 posts Report post #15 Posted January 17, 2016 Oh, really? Holy [edited]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,113 [CHASE] Komrade_Rylo Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,973 posts 13,112 battles Report post #16 Posted January 17, 2016 We should have generic ships that ALL perform the same way. Just give em generic names. WG is drunk, broken, etc etc. BLAH BLAH.....SO ON AND SO FORTH. Yea so we will set up the two tier X bbs to where one dunks on the other everytime and the other is completely useless due to all the cv nerfs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,548 [EPOXY] Tedster_ Wiki Editor, Members, Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 5,899 posts 13,706 battles Report post #17 Posted January 17, 2016 Oh, really? while a nice shot, that des moines F'd up by trying to turn like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,113 [CHASE] Komrade_Rylo Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 2,973 posts 13,112 battles Report post #18 Posted January 17, 2016 There's a underpowered and then there's working as intended. If it's working as intended, it is really underpowered? Yup, the US ships in general being ****. Working as intended comrade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
517 Marcanbus_NA Members 1,866 posts 6,954 battles Report post #19 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Oh, really? lol Standard Des Moines gameplay I have a 39% win rate on that piece of crap Edited January 17, 2016 by Marcanbus_NA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
665 FallenZulu Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,837 posts 3,359 battles Report post #20 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) You are correct. The Montana Performs relatively well against everything but Yamatos. BUT if you ever play high tiers there is always a Yamato in the game. You always run into them in your Montana and they focus on you first because you are a massive ball of xp, and proceed to kill you. The reason why you never see Montanas at higher tiers (unless it's me because I'm a self masochist and just cannot get over the fact that it's just not a good ship) is because if you end up in a game with a Yamato, which you always do, then you have to spend your whole game in fear of running into that Yamato, leading to you being useless the entire game if you don't want to pay 275k in repairs. I know you are gonna say well you should be worried about winning over credits, but when you die going against the Yamato and end up doing jack **** against it, and then lose 200k credits trying to secure the team the win it can be demoralizing. I think the real issue is that there are only two nations with a BB line. Perhaps when more nation's BB's are added then the Montana will fair better, because I think it is well established that the Yamato will be the ultimate BB in the game. Also I read on the Q/A either on the Russian forum or EU that they are considering about adjusting the Montana/ IE buff? Edited January 17, 2016 by FallenZulu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #21 Posted January 17, 2016 Oh, really? I think you just totally outplayed him, honestly. You got into a better position, and he exposed his broadside, when he shouldn't have. Had he played that better, by shooting out your turrets and not exposing his broadside, your Pensa would have been the one that was sunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
517 Marcanbus_NA Members 1,866 posts 6,954 battles Report post #22 Posted January 17, 2016 The Des Moines is really really bad. The only ones who say its not have not played the ship. I'm a good player and yet I have 39% ratio in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,157 [WOLF5] Khafni [WOLF5] Members 6,559 posts 30,335 battles Report post #23 Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) We should have generic ships that ALL perform the same way. Just give em generic names. WG is drunk, broken, etc etc. BLAH BLAH.....SO ON AND SO FORTH. Let's treat WoWs like NASCAR. Make every ship the same - a "ship of tomorrow". Then it's only captain skill that makes the difference. No more ship balancing, no more buffing or nerfing. And surely no more whining. Play the game! Edited January 17, 2016 by Khafni 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,397 [USMC-] Lampshade_M1A2 Members 3,781 posts 11,700 battles Report post #24 Posted January 17, 2016 "Capitalist pig-dog ships sink to bottom like they should, no major imbalances comrade!" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,242 [NDA] Wo_9 Beta Testers 5,251 posts 8,905 battles Report post #25 Posted January 17, 2016 Yup, the US ships in general being ****. Working as intended comrade As much as i love Iowa I think its really sad when USN only excel at tier 9 and fall very short at tier 10. except for midway perhaps but, its not a very big advantage at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites