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Katori- The amazing tier 1 you'll never get to play

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Now, if you're looking for some fancy NDA stuff, this isn't it.  Katori was once the tier 1 IJN cruiser, and unlike the other tier 1 ships she was a proper cruiser and not a gunboat.  While she had her torpedo tubes removed (which she had in reality), she still far out-classed the Erie and would still make the Orlan and Hermelin look like kitties trapped in a paper bag.  Officially she was a Japanese training cruiser (along with her sisters Kashima and Kashii) designed to prepare crews for duty on various ships from destroyers to battleships.  Katori herself was engaged by the USS Iowa, in which the Iowa displayed it's amazing gunnery capabilities by bracketing Katori in the very first salvo she fired (and would continue to bracket her with all 8 salvos fired from the main guns).  Of the three, only Kashima would survive the war, being used for reparations before being scrapped in 1947.

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In game Katori was head and shoulders above Erie in every way.  Her 2x2 gun layout provided solid firepower, firing slower than Erie but with higher damage shells.  Her pure displacement advantage gave her just shy of twice the HP of Erie, although she was less maneuverable.  In the end, it was decided that Katori needed to be replaced as she was far too good as a tier 1, and thus she was replaced with the Hashidate.  I hope some day WG will bring her back as a tier 2 with her torpedoes intact (2x2 21" torp tubes, one on each side) in the vein of the Emden and Albany.  If you look closely, you can see the circles on the sides of the ship where the torpedo launchers would be mounted.

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Ah, yeah. The tier 1.5 seal clubber. I'll echo your sentiment and add my voice to the chorus that wants her back in the game. Tier 2 premie perhaps, but then, the japanese navy already has enough premies in the game.

 

She was solid, maybe WG can turn her into a Tier 2 anniversary ship or something.

 

Or that.

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Ah, yeah. The tier 1.5 seal clubber. I'll echo your sentiment and add my voice to the chorus that wants her back in the game. Tier 2 premie perhaps, but then, the japanese navy already has enough premies in the game.

 

 

Or that.

 

To be fair, she needs a boost to her rate of fire if put at tier 2.  12rpm out of 4 guns really isn't going to cut it at that point.

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To be fair, she needs a boost to her rate of fire if put at tier 2.  12rpm out of 4 guns really isn't going to cut it at that point.

 

Maybe balance her with the starting Japanese torps in the dual tubes. That would give her torps with slower firing guns. They hit hard enough the RPM would balance out with the fact she would have torpedo armament (depending on what torps they would put on her).

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If you think about it, her main guns has the same firepower as the Tenryu and the Yubari in the game, Tier 3 and 4 accordingly.  Yes, dual mounted 140mms.  

 

In contrast the Erie starts with a destroyer gun, and upgrades to the Cleveland's gun.   The  IJN 140mm has a higher HE shell damage and RoF.  

 

With her torpedoes, AA and secondary armament, her armamentation is similar to the Tier 4 Yubari.  She is just much slower.

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She was solid, maybe WG can turn her into a Tier 2 anniversary ship or something.

 

Or they remove Chikuma, put Katori as tier 2, and rename Tone as Chikuma and sell her as a premium

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Or they remove Chikuma, put Katori as tier 2, and rename Tone as Chikuma and sell her as a premium

 

Why?

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Oh, wow, wish I could've seen this ship in action. I'd love to see it added (with the ship being upgraded or intact of course) into the game. Perhaps it could be a reward ship once the game's been out for a while for the people who have played for a few years? (So a while into the future.)

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I'd be surprised if Katori doesn't show up as a premium or reward ship at some point.  Doesn't make sense for WG to take the time to model a ship, then let it just go to waste.

 

In addition to torpedoes they could also give her the float plane she historically carried.  It wouldn't make a huge difference, but could be an interesting gimmick at such a low tier.

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It was a great ship and I really miss it. I do expect to someday see it be a reward ship or a premium ship. Please WG!

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Why?

 

Because that leaves Tone as a silver ship without having two Chikumas in the game.

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In my first game in CBT, I stuck her in an island and flipped the ship to her underside. What a way to handle a ship on a first date!

 

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whoa forgot about her, she was the queen of the seal clubbers ! 

 

nice post OP

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If you think about it, her main guns has the same firepower as the Tenryu and the Yubari in the game, Tier 3 and 4 accordingly.  Yes, dual mounted 140mms.  

 

In contrast the Erie starts with a destroyer gun, and upgrades to the Cleveland's gun.   The  IJN 140mm has a higher HE shell damage and RoF.  

 

With her torpedoes, AA and secondary armament, her armamentation is similar to the Tier 4 Yubari.  She is just much slower.

 

 

  Broadside weight Armor Engine output Top speed Displacement
Tenryu 4x 140mm, 6x torps 63mm 51,000SHP 33.0kt 3,500t
Yubari 6x 140mm, 4x torps 63mm 57,900SHP 35.5kt 3,140t
Kuma 6x 140mm, 4x torps 63mm 90,000SHP 36.7kt 5,500t
Katori 4x 140mm, 4x torps none! 8,000HP 18.0kt 6,300t

 

The only reason Katori can't be a T3, is because she has no armor and she's extremely slow.

Although, if WG made it so she has no citadel, then I can see her being just fine in T3.

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  Broadside weight Armor Engine output Top speed Displacement
Tenryu 4x 140mm, 6x torps 63mm 51,000SHP 33.0kt 3,500t
Yubari 6x 140mm, 4x torps 63mm 57,900SHP 35.5kt 3,140t
Kuma 6x 140mm, 4x torps 63mm 90,000SHP 36.7kt 5,500t
Katori 4x 140mm, 4x torps none! 8,000HP 18.0kt 6,300t

 

The only reason Katori can't be a T3, is because she has no armor and she's extremely slow.

Although, if WG made it so she has no citadel, then I can see her being just fine in T3.

If she had torps and no citadel, she would be superior to Yuubari, even with her slow speed, as long as Yuubari keeps that horrid citadel and 2x2 instead of 3x2 guns.

Edit- I meant 2x2 and 2x1 guns.

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Ah, Katori. I must admit that it was pretty cool having one of the IJN's training cruisers as the tier I training ship. I'mma still take the Yuubari though, sorry Chokai.

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KATORI NEED BUFF:

1-add AA of 13mm 1x8 this can help katori vs CV tier 4

2-up damage torps katori has 4 torps with damege 9k per torps, now if you see Friant of tier 3 cruiser frech has 12 torps with damage of 12k per torps.

3- up armored katoki if it has possibility as was hitorical.

maybe katori was this configuration AA for 1944 http://www.steelnavy.com/images/GalleryImages/katori8.jpg

http://www.steelnavy.com/images/GalleryImages/katori1.jpg

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