594 sbcptnitro Members 2,709 posts 17,651 battles Report post #1 Posted January 8, 2016 I'm having the most difficult time with this. I have the following ships available for ranked play (currently at rank 15 so it's 7s and 8s for the rest of the season): Kiev Tashkent Blyska Fubuki Hatsu (not really a viable option, but I have it, so I'll list it) I have other Cruisers and BBs at tiers 7 and 8, but since this is the DD forum, I'll limit the discussion to the best DD to play in ranked. The Fubuki has been my main choice as it would seem I'd need the stealth torping above all else, but with the mixed results I'm getting, I have no idea what to do at this point. I'd also rather not buy back a previously owned DD (such as the Benson), but I'm not completely ruling it out either. What have you had the most success in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
80 [F4E-2] CanadianArmoured Members 491 posts 13,948 battles Report post #2 Posted January 8, 2016 I use the Hipper, I have the Kiev but I am not a Russian DD player so I have avoided it. I would use the Fubuki as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
485 [-BWS] StingRayOne Beta Testers 1,896 posts 14,529 battles Report post #3 Posted January 8, 2016 Fubuki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 Hunter_Steel ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,630 posts 5,107 battles Report post #4 Posted January 8, 2016 Currently I only use Kongou and Konigsberg, but soon I'll be using Gnevny. Once I hit the second leg, I'll be using Hatsuharu, Myokou and Nagato for the ranked matches. ~Hunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,153 [WOLF5] Khafni [WOLF5] Members 6,550 posts 29,922 battles Report post #5 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I've got Hatsu, Blyska, and Benson lined up. Will bring in Fubuki if I get it before ranked is over. I prefer the Benson. Edited January 8, 2016 by Khafni 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 [KSD] The_redReiter [KSD] Members 67 posts 28,929 battles Report post #6 Posted January 8, 2016 Been using Fubuki. Works well unless it has to go gun to gun with about any RU or USN DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
258 sushimaster Members 1,383 posts 2,282 battles Report post #7 Posted January 8, 2016 The higher in rank you go, the harder it will be to get any torpedo hit at all, the fleet formation will just be too good to get into a good torping position, DD will screen, then you have to get past CA so you will always launch torp at long range all game. The meta for rank is DD that can contest cap which is the Blys, Kiev or Taskhen while the best DD for rank is Benson because it can contest cap, knife fight and stealth torp all at once, the Fub can only stealth torp and nothing else. I've seen people who got rank 1 with Fubuki tho so it doable but it might take you twice as long than if you were to bring another DD. I speak from last season's experience, i played Minekaze to rank 10, worked very well then tried Fub for around 10 games and immediately knew it won't get me to rank 1 and switched to Benson. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #8 Posted January 8, 2016 well i played fubuki a bit, but i don't really like her slow speed, it's pretty hard to get torp hits too i think i may switch to tashkent which is badass in randoms though i may as well play arp meowko when i get it (: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
594 sbcptnitro Members 2,709 posts 17,651 battles Report post #9 Posted January 8, 2016 The higher in rank you go, the harder it will be to get any torpedo hit at all, the fleet formation will just be too good to get into a good torping position, DD will screen, then you have to get past CA so you will always launch torp at long range all game. The meta for rank is DD that can contest cap which is the Blys, Kiev or Taskhen while the best DD for rank is Benson because it can contest cap, knife fight and stealth torp all at once, the Fub can only stealth torp and nothing else. I've seen people who got rank 1 with Fubuki tho so it doable but it might take you twice as long than if you were to bring another DD. I speak from last season's experience, i played Minekaze to rank 10, worked very well then tried Fub for around 10 games and immediately knew it won't get me to rank 1 and switched to Benson. I'd have to agree. This has unfortunately been my observation as well. It seems you need a versatile DD for the higher tier ranked games and that points directly at the Benson. I say "unfortunately" cause this would require me dropping 10m in credits (plus modules) and 500 doubloons for training. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25 [D33P6] FB2000 Beta Testers 125 posts 15,094 battles Report post #10 Posted January 8, 2016 I have the same ships available that you have. Before the nerf I used the Kiev has a gun boat it was great. Now I am using the Blyska has a gun boat/scout/DDs destroyer as well. Torps are good but in Ranked people move around more then the regular battle. Torps become more a tool to for area denial. Tahskent is too big to be a good a good gun boat in Ranked. Gets detected from 100 miles away compare to the Kiev & Blyska and you get focused fire fast. IJN DDs are ok but will be easily outgunned by the other boats. Need to rely too much on torps. I dont have any BB but have 3 Tier 8 CAs (Mogami, Atago & New Orleans) and in ranked they are not as fun compare to random battles. Teams in Ranked are more coordinated then usual. CA becomes more vulnerable. Hope this make sense to you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #11 Posted January 8, 2016 Tahskent is too big to be a good a good gun boat in Ranked. Gets detected from 100 miles away compare to the Kiev & Blyska i just wonder how you even play these ships not knowing their characteristics kiev and khabarovsk have the absolute worst detection among the ru dd tashkent is more stealthy than kiev by like 0.5 km did you forget to install the concealment module? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #12 Posted January 8, 2016 Lightning (Blys) and RU DDs don't work well enough, even as a DD hunter. It's spotted from way too far out and any sensible team (i.e. in the higher ranks) will pick it off faster before it can detect the enemy DD that is lighting it up. All the tier 7 DDs can't benefit from the concealment upgrade the tier VIII gets, so it's a major disadvantage. Benson and Fubuki should be the only choice for Ranked Battle for contesting cap and screening the team. If you insist on bringing a DD that isn't one of those two, leave the screening to a Benson or a Fubuki while you provide fire support from far enough to dodge incoming cruiser fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #13 Posted January 8, 2016 ru dd are supposed to be spotted most of the time... they are played like light cruisers without a citadel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
258 sushimaster Members 1,383 posts 2,282 battles Report post #14 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I'd have to agree. This has unfortunately been my observation as well. It seems you need a versatile DD for the higher tier ranked games and that points directly at the Benson. I say "unfortunately" cause this would require me dropping 10m in credits (plus modules) and 500 doubloons for training. Playing rank is costly, i remember when peoples told me to use Benson but being a hard head and very confidence in my Fub's capability in random game, i went and bought the Fub anyway, only to find out the harsh reality. I then sold the Fub and the Kag to fund for my Benson...wasted like 1500 doublons in the process too. Edited January 8, 2016 by sushimaster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
594 sbcptnitro Members 2,709 posts 17,651 battles Report post #15 Posted January 8, 2016 Playing rank is costly, i remember when peoples told me to use Benson but being a hard head and very confidence in my Fub's capability in random game, i went and bought the Fub anyway, only to find out the harsh reality. I then sold the Fub and the Kag to fund for my Benson...wasted like 1500 doublons in the process too. This is becoming my reality as well. But thanks for all the insight to all that have posted. It's pretty much confirming what I've come to believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,073 battles Report post #16 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Just reached Rk15 so I am ready for the switch this weekend. I was planning on Fubuki/Atago/Mogami but what is said here makes sense. I will probably try with Atago/Mogami/Blyskawica/Benson/Fubuki, due to preference and proficiency in handling for me. (Did Rk18-15 with Nürnberg) Edited January 11, 2016 by alexf24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
77 [APOC-] FirstOfOne Beta Testers 328 posts 4,351 battles Report post #17 Posted January 8, 2016 This is becoming my reality as well. But thanks for all the insight to all that have posted. It's pretty much confirming what I've come to believe. i'll second what sushi said. I rebought the benson and spent 850 gold on my fletcher captain to put him in there. Havent regretted it yet. 6-0 so far. Ill have to spend 500 more at the end of season and will train up a new capt for the benson in the off zeason. It seems tier 8 is going to be the "competitive" tier as it probably should be as it is the most balanced tier in the game IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
937 [-VT-] Sabene Members 1,047 posts 43,839 battles Report post #18 Posted January 9, 2016 I like the Benson. No opinion on the Blys. RU DDs have too short a torp range for my taste. I ranked out with the Hatsu last season. Darn stealthy boat. VERY maneuverable. I do not care for the Fubuki. Sure, it has a third torp bank but the ship is too slow and more easily detected. *glances up at the Jolly Roger* ~ Sab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #19 Posted January 9, 2016 I do not care for the Fubuki. Sure, it has a third torp bank but the ship is too slow and more easily detected. Wat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
722 bad_arcade_kitty Members 4,886 posts Report post #20 Posted January 9, 2016 well when you are slow and have a poor turning radius you are easier to be caught than hatsuharu even though your concealment is a bit better with the concealment module Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
746 [LEAK] amade Beta Testers 1,686 posts 209 battles Report post #21 Posted January 9, 2016 Make sense, though the way to get around it is to approach suspected areas that may have enemy DDs by going parallel to it. Anything coming close will be spotted early enough for you to make evasive maneuvers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
594 sbcptnitro Members 2,709 posts 17,651 battles Report post #22 Posted January 9, 2016 Well, I've somehow made it to rank 10 in my Fubuki, so I'm going to ride that train for as long as I can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
77 [TNG-S] beliy_demon Beta Testers 497 posts 10,557 battles Report post #23 Posted January 9, 2016 Benson /thread 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 Serdic Members 24 posts 1,075 battles Report post #24 Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Just got rank 15 in the Minekaze, and am now rolling in the Mercedes Benson to see how bad I really am. Edited January 11, 2016 by Serdic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,848 Wulfgarn Members 5,597 posts 7,121 battles Report post #25 Posted January 11, 2016 Good info! This too has been on my mind as well. Ive only played one match this season to get everything from 14 and up from winning last season. I've been mulling over which direction to go "DD" wise. I will probably switch back and forth between the Benson, and Kiev. I don't own any IJN, although I have no clue why. I still do good with the Kiev (aka credit maker), but the nerf did hurt. I have been working on getting its commander DE to go along with the current AFT specifically for ranked (if I decide to actually participate). I have this setup on my UdaloI and I'm happy with it. I'm a VFM kinda guy. 1 more point to go. I ran my Benson completely stock and did the grind for the exp for the Fletcher. I actually upgraded/mods yesterday during this discount weekend "thinking" of ranked battles. I am a little leary about running this since (mentioned in an earlier post) torps at the higher lvl are scarce, not to mention torp speed is so slow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites