1,593 Hunter_Steel ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,630 posts 5,107 battles Report post #1 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I have, at long last, decided to delve into the world of Carriers. This is because of a few things: 1) there are not enough of them 2) I haven't played Carriers since the IJN CVs were introduced in the CBT. 3) There are a multitude of plane missions, and the ARP Kongou's mission is especially annoying. And finally 4) I want Taihou in my port. So far I have learned to: Manual Drop Stay with the fleet And beat USN fighters before they can use strafe. Is there anything else I need to know? ~Hunter Edited January 8, 2016 by Hunter_Steel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,471 [SWFSH] Fast_Battleship_Iowa [SWFSH] Volunteer Moderator 2,629 posts 7,415 battles Report post #2 Posted January 8, 2016 Fly fighters in front of battleship "lines" (an invisible like around your fleet) to spot torpedoes far before they reach your ships. As a destroyer captain - it is irritating as [edited] but it is very useful to your battleships and other less-maneuverable craft. On another note, if a destroyer is being camped on by a lone fighter squad, help him out or he's going to be useless or killed for the duration he's subjected to that - with a few lesser exceptions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 Hunter_Steel ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,630 posts 5,107 battles Report post #3 Posted January 8, 2016 Fly fighters in front of battleship "lines" (an invisible like around your fleet) to spot torpedoes far before they reach your ships. As a destroyer captain - it is irritating as [edited] but it is very useful to your battleships and other less-maneuverable craft. On another note, if a destroyer is being camped on by a lone fighter squad, help him out or he's going to be useless or killed for the duration he's subjected to that - with a few lesser exceptions. Hmm.... I'll try that, but for now, Langley's and Bogue's are oppressing my fighters. Here's my replay, maybe you can tell me where I can improve? Hosho Replay Thanks in advance. ~Hunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
655 PelicanHazard Members 2,632 posts 10,276 battles Report post #4 Posted January 8, 2016 Is there anything else I need to know? ~Hunter Learn what ships have strong AA; it becomes very important around Tier 6, since you still have a limited hangar capacity and regularly see ships with strong AA, which can turn you into a useless barge pretty quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 Hunter_Steel ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,630 posts 5,107 battles Report post #5 Posted January 8, 2016 Learn what ships have strong AA; it becomes very important around Tier 6, since you still have a limited hangar capacity and regularly see ships with strong AA, which can turn you into a useless barge pretty quickly. I know the AA. I particularly right now at tier 4, fear upgraded Myogis and Wyomings, along with the occasional Yuubari. So usually I use my fighters to distract their AA while I go in with my TBs. ~Hunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 AspiringCodger Beta Testers 2,029 posts Report post #6 Posted January 8, 2016 I know the AA. I particularly right now at tier 4, fear upgraded Myogis and Wyomings, along with the occasional Yuubari. So usually I use my fighters to distract their AA while I go in with my TBs. ~Hunter Don't count on that in the higher tiers as decent players will focus AA fire on the most dangerous squadron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,017 battles Report post #7 Posted January 8, 2016 Learn to criss-cross your torp launches when you are attacking with two TB squads. I am not a CV player, but I do believe few CV captains appreciate the value of early scouting, and of spotting DDs and keeping them lit until dead. As mainly an IJN DD player I like this, but as a cruiser driver, that helps immensely. Early killing all red DDs completely changes the battle dynamics. As you know DDs get stronger and more important in the later stages of the battle. CVs should help dealing with them early. A lit DD is a dead DD. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 deadluck Beta Testers 10 posts 1,217 battles Report post #8 Posted January 8, 2016 - Learn to strafe with your fighters and also find out when your opponent carrier is trying it on you. - If possible for big targets (CVs and BBs) try to attack in 2 waves by splitting your TB/DB. Carriers rely mostly on dot to do damage and sink ships. - For other targets crossing fire with TBs is the best tactic. - When fighting against lvl 6 cruisers and higher. Lure them to use their AA ability before attacking the sector. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 CriticalHit Members 122 posts 1,539 battles Report post #9 Posted January 11, 2016 - Look for the soft spots in enemy air coverage and attack there\ - Avoid strong AAA ships - Learn how to avoid enemy fighters unless you have good AAA present to support you - The hammer and anvil tactic with Torpedo bombers is critical for higher level success, practice it now while it's relatively easy. (this is using one TB squad to launch a spread that forces the enemy ship to turn into another that you lay shortly later that they cannot avoid) - Practice manual dive bombing, MUCH more effective than auto bombing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
35 [_REKT] tremor3258 Members 490 posts 4,096 battles Report post #10 Posted January 12, 2016 Learn to criss-cross your torp launches when you are attacking with two TB squads. I am not a CV player, but I do believe few CV captains appreciate the value of early scouting, and of spotting DDs and keeping them lit until dead. As mainly an IJN DD player I like this, but as a cruiser driver, that helps immensely. Early killing all red DDs completely changes the battle dynamics. As you know DDs get stronger and more important in the later stages of the battle. CVs should help dealing with them early. A lit DD is a dead DD. Just reiterating this - scouted out DDs in early game are DDs not sneaking around to torp you in the late game. This game doesn't have scout damage assists to boost xp, but does have a bonus for winning that should be considered its equivalent, for carriers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 go123452 Members 21 posts 221 battles Report post #11 Posted January 18, 2016 One more thing. Since you are using the IJN carriers, you have a much more potent strike force, regardless of loadout, and weaker fighters. Try to focus on maximising your own contribution, and less on establishing air control (unless the USN player is running a strike loadout). If needed, your fighters can be used(and sacrificed) to tie up enemy fighters so your strike craft hit home. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
427 Hatework Members 1,369 posts 3,667 battles Report post #12 Posted January 20, 2016 I know the AA. I particularly right now at tier 4, fear upgraded Myogis and Wyomings, along with the occasional Yuubari. So usually I use my fighters to distract their AA while I go in with my TBs. ~Hunter I've found this is just a waste of fighter HP. Anecdotal, but from trying to use fighters to cover my strike aircraft from AA, it seems the AA AI goes after TB and DBs if they are in range rather than fighters. It is possible I just keep attacking people who know what the control button is for, but I doubt it. If I'm wrong, I would love a correction or link to the actual mechanic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [DERRR] robbaz123 Members 115 posts 2,866 battles Report post #13 Posted October 21, 2016 If WG had a trading system i would let you buy my TAIHO for 14,000,000 but for now nope wg cant do that cause of early player geting everything plus i need 10,000 xp to hakuryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
234 Carrier_Junyo Members 738 posts 6,483 battles Report post #14 Posted October 21, 2016 Forum search is your friend. I posted 15 bullet point tips on driving CVs not long ago. There are a lot of threads about CV tips and advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
492 MikeLapTrap Beta Testers 3,012 posts 1,480 battles Report post #15 Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) I have, at long last, decided to delve into the world of Carriers. This is because of a few things: 1) there are not enough of them 2) I haven't played Carriers since the IJN CVs were introduced in the CBT. 3) There are a multitude of plane missions, and the ARP Kongou's mission is especially annoying. And finally 4) I want Taihou in my port. So far I have learned to: Manual Drop Stay with the fleet And beat USN fighters before they can use strafe. Is there anything else I need to know? ~Hunter lots I know the AA. I particularly right now at tier 4, fear upgraded Myogis and Wyomings, along with the occasional Yuubari. So usually I use my fighters to distract their AA while I go in with my TBs. ~Hunter Those ships have high AA for that tier but thats about average in terms of how fast you lose planes at the high tiers to any BB and CA Edited October 22, 2016 by Systemrename33576 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #16 Posted October 22, 2016 I think it helps if you stick with only fighters in the very beginning of the game, especially if you're in a strike loadout going up against an AS loadout. This lets you focus on strafing the enemy fighters to take their numbers down, and spot for your team. I usually don't attack with bombers until a few minutes into the game. Of course, if you're the type of person that can multitask perfectly, my advice won't help you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
442 [K0] Flashtirade Members 1,758 posts 10,316 battles Report post #17 Posted October 22, 2016 Stick with Zuizui until you can perform consistently in almost every matchup. She'll teach you good habits that you'll need in every other CV after her (and USN stock loadouts too), and she'll show you how and why you can get away with losing the fighter battles but winning the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
492 MikeLapTrap Beta Testers 3,012 posts 1,480 battles Report post #18 Posted October 22, 2016 I think it helps if you stick with only fighters in the very beginning of the game, especially if you're in a strike loadout going up against an AS loadout. This lets you focus on strafing the enemy fighters to take their numbers down, and spot for your team. I usually don't attack with bombers until a few minutes into the game. Of course, if you're the type of person that can multitask perfectly, my advice won't help you. his advice isnt bad for low to mid tiers. Since you have limited planes until tier 7, using the bombers after a few mins into the match to catch lone ships or those that have been hit many times with HE can make for safer targets when your replacements are limited so using them solely for scouting isnt bad. even dropping their bombs at the start to have faster scouts to outrun the enemy fighters could be useful to bait the enemy fighters into your strafe or AA while they never can get caught. also keep them just outside of the range of the AA of enemy ships for the start of the match just to spot the ships give it 5 mins in before u strike and you'll notice u lose a lot less if you pick targets correctly. obviously bombing a lone DD is always welcome early game though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 Hunter_Steel ∞ Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,630 posts 5,107 battles Report post #19 Posted October 25, 2016 I may just get back in. My experience was soured by AS Bogues oppressing my Stock Zuihou >.> ~Hunter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #20 Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Im enjoying everything, even the challenge of doing damage against A/S CVs, but... The constant Four CV matches at T4-5, its hard enough to "get-gud" at what I am doing let alone try and either play a uptiered CV or carry the lower tier one... Out of ten matches its been feeling like eight are four CVs on the map, not a fan.... Edited October 25, 2016 by slak__ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites