an ugly thing which this arp event brought to us...

[bad_arcade_kitty]

i saw today how an amagi in a random battle intentionally waited for more than a minute watching how an enemy cleveland was killing ours to have a guaranteed kill shot on the enemy cleveland

 

that amagi also shot only ships with very low health too

[CaptHyatt]

And that's new? That was happening even before this whole event started. 

[QuantumEntropy]

At least his KD will get up with 10k avrage damage on the amagi

 

Anyway , i get that a lot with the Fuso when i let a enemy under 2-5k hp and a teammate standing near me not firing at all , starts to fire when he's low ,

But think at this .

Damage counts for points and xp not kills. i had games with 0 kills and 140k dmg at the top of the scoreboard and games with 7 kills and 40k dmg at the bottom

[iEaTDaGrudge]

i saw today how an amagi in a random battle intentionally waited for more than a minute watching how an enemy cleveland was killing ours to have a guaranteed kill shot on the enemy cleveland

 

that amagi also shot only ships with very low health too

 

it happens all the time...

[IronWolfV]

i saw today how an amagi in a random battle intentionally waited for more than a minute watching how an enemy cleveland was killing ours to have a guaranteed kill shot on the enemy cleveland

 

that amagi also shot only ships with very low health too

 

Welcome to an ugly reality that's been there for a while, everyone just turned a blind eye to it.

[Nptune]

WG should have used some other STAT for the ARP grind.  2 lots of Damage potential to x ships instead of killing x ships... I am seeing this more and more now that the event has started... I was never interested in kills in the last couple of months just getting the job done for the team.... Yeah, I know right.... working for the team!  Trying to switch gears back to kills is very painful

[Angelhunter]

I got accused of that last night. 2 brothers map. On the side i was on there was an enemy DD, 3 CA's, and a Fuso. I was in a Nagato. The Fuso immediately angled to me while the CA's kept giving me broadsides so i sunk them all.

 

Friendly Cleveland proceeds to go off on my for hogging kills and being a coward for not engaging the enemy Fuso.

 

I tried to politely explain that i was taking the targets that made sense. Some people are just silly.

[centarina]

I got shot at by friendly warspite for kill stealing.  I reported him with replay.          idiots.     it will get worse   in second month         I am 22/22  at the moment, so I have plenty of time.  once I get 30/30,  I will stop with DD grind  for a while.  may do some CV just to get to bogue. 

[Enforcer017]

Angelhunter, I had the same thing happen when I was in my New Mex, except there wasnt even an enemy BB to shoot at. The only things in range that I could see were a couple of cruisers. And they both happened to give me broadsides while I was reloaded so I deleted them. Friendly Omaha accuses me of kill stealing even though both were still on 1/3 to 1/2 HP. He even torped me and fired guns at me. I almost gave in and deleted him too but kept my cool. Eventually though you will get through it. Keep calm and kill on.

 

[Swine_007]

I think it perhaps just highlights the ugliness that was already there.  It happened with the Marblehead contest too but it seems people getting even more bent out of shape this time.  

[LittleWhiteMouse]

Don't worry, the Amagi will make up for it when they reach the third part of the mission.  Then they'll avoid helping their team focus fire to bring down dangerous enemies and instead concentrate on only shooting full health enemies in order to maximize their damage output.  One million damage, here they come!

[Wilbury]

Is it possible some folks are defending the mission because of it's subject matter rather than objectively evaluating the situation? I ask because the anime community here has been sort of under fire since the missions were announced, it would make sense in some respects if folks are just in the habit of defending it because of that. Is it possible that criticism of the missions themselves are being treated the same way as criticism of the subject matter? 

 

I'm just asking the question here, everyone please remain calm. 

[Nachoo31]

What is the second step in the missions?  School started this week.  So time is getting gutted.  Might need to plan a whole day to play.. hmm.

[Raptor_alcor]

Is it possible some folks are defending the mission because of it's subject matter rather than objectively evaluating the situation? I ask because the anime community here has been sort of under fire since the missions were announced, it would make sense in some respects if folks are just in the habit of defending it because of that. Is it possible that criticism of the missions themselves are being treated the same way as criticism of the subject matter? 

 

I'm just asking the question here, everyone please remain calm. 

 

Honestly in this game, there always has been those (self-edited) that hold fire to get kills thinking it's all that matter, They just came crawling out of the woodwork in massive numbers since the event started. 

[centarina]

if they made it XP earned based,  their revenue due to premium sign up would have been good.   as is,  its alright  i have 2month and normal grind would be fine to get there except for plane one. I will give  CV another go as well with  langley.

[Pissinginthewind]

Angelhunter, I had the same thing happen when I was in my New Mex, except there wasnt even an enemy BB to shoot at. The only things in range that I could see were a couple of cruisers. And they both happened to give me broadsides while I was reloaded so I deleted them. Friendly Omaha accuses me of kill stealing even though both were still on 1/3 to 1/2 HP. He even torped me and fired guns at me. I almost gave in and deleted him too but kept my cool. Eventually though you will get through it. Keep calm and kill on.

You are a better person than I.

[hillaan]

i saw today how an amagi in a random battle intentionally waited for more than a minute watching how an enemy cleveland was killing ours to have a guaranteed kill shot on the enemy cleveland

 

that amagi also shot only ships with very low health too

 Yep been happing from the start of these 2 missions. I really never try to kill steal when you need this many kills it makes it tempting.

[Wilbury]

 

Honestly in this game, there always has been those (self-edited) that hold fire to get kills thinking it's all that matter, They just came crawling out of the woodwork in massive numbers since the event started. 

 

And their crawling out, combined with the awareness of the mission goals, results in more vigilance over one's targets and thus more accusations pop up on the forum. Do I understand you correctly? I'm not sure though, if you're saying that the mission is to blame for encouraging this, or the players for hanging back? You are saying it's happening more than it did, if I'm not mistaken.

 

I suppose it's possible that players who don't normally care about kill stealing are made more possessive by the mission, and that is resulting in more complaints...

 

I'm not sure this is a real problem, is what I'm saying, and the subject matter makes it harder for some (on either end of it) to be even-handed in their evaluations.

[Raptor_alcor]

 

And their crawling out, combined with the awareness of the mission goals, results in more vigilance over one's targets and thus more accusations pop up on the forum. Do I understand you correctly? I'm not sure though, if you're saying that the mission is to blame for encouraging this, or the players for hanging back? You are saying it's happening more than it did, if I'm not mistaken.

 

I suppose it's possible that players who don't normally care about kill stealing are made more possessive by the mission, and that is resulting in more complaints...

 

I'm not sure this is a real problem, is what I'm saying, and the subject matter makes it harder for some (on either end of it) to be even-handed in their evaluations.

 

It's just far more noticable since now kills actually matter for those missions, once most are past those missions it'll fade away from awareness. 

[Wilbury]

 

It's just far more noticable since now kills actually matter for those missions, once most are past those missions it'll fade away from awareness. 

 

Yeah, I think you're right. 

[Pope_Shizzle]

Wish the mission was to earn 100,000 xp playing tier 6+ cruisers.

[gabriel1307]

Real simple for all the people wanting the new skins...download Aslains Mods. Granted, this is by no means an accomplishment or a trophy that all can see for past achievements, but it does give many ships (all IJN ships) in game a user created skin from a good portion of the IJN warships line. No one can see it but you, but maybe if you download it and play with it, you can get over this stressful, hateful and ignorant playstyle that many seem to get bent out of shape about. The quest will soon be fulfilled, you will reap your just rewards over time. Those who get bent out of shape are usually the cats that need something now and cant wait...Wow, wait a minute....sounds like the "entitlement Generation". ME, ME, ME...everyone else can wait...remember, its a GAME, and a team game at that...enjoy it and don't go ruining someone else's game experience, because you want to be one of the first with the skins.....just a thought...I salute all those captains that maintain their composure through infant tantrums...

[Misniso]

Just do what I do, shoot them from full health to empty in one shot.  No accusations then.

 

And if you think I'm being cocky, I mean...shoot all ships with full health.  Statistically, a few will blow up with one salvo while your team cleans up the survivors.

[SeaCaitiff]

I will say I have been guilty of Kill Stealing in my USN DD.  My goal really isn't to get the kill though.  As a DD, if I get lit up in the open around a CA, I have a short life expectancy.  So....I have learned not to fire my guns on a CA where it will leave me exposed unless it is otherwise occupied or near death...or both.    If they are down to 2-3k health, I figure I can add my firepower to bring them down quicker, even if it does expose me.

 

I actually hate that at times as a DD I pass up opportunities to do some extra damage in these big fights, but I have realized that a few thousand points that expose me in the ocean is generally not worth it.

 

 

[Rion12]

If a potential kill presents itself, I take it. If someone else gets it, that's fine as well.

 

That's one less enemy ship to deal with.

 

Do I want to get these missions finished for the ARP ships? Of course. But, I think any half-decent player should be able to handle these within the 2 darned months we've got with normal play.

 

Also, it's not like "kill-stealing" hasn't been around. Event or not, it happens. We just don't see it as much when there isn't a kill-based event happening.