105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #1 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I really like playing the Fuso and I wanted to know the best and worst places to shoot the Fuso. I knew under the smoke stacks were good for citadels but I was surprised to see that underneath the turrets was not always an optimal shot choice. I put together a video which highlights the Fuso's armor and the best places to shoot the Fuso at closer ranges (line drive shots). I tested things out in a training room and some of the results surprised me. Anyways here is the link to the video if you all are interested in seeing what I found out. I will be checking the YouTube page off and on so leave me some comments on the channel so I can see what you guys and gals think. Or if you have any ideas for better tests to run. I know that results may differ with plunging shots and that is 1 alternative that I think I can test out. Testing plunging shots is harder though because of the battleship's RNG with it's shells. Part 1 I created a follow-on video to my original which details the Fuso armor against larger 16 inch guns. I wanted to see if the area underneath the turrets are able to be citadeled using the Nagato. I was surprised by the results. I then performed the same tests against a New Mexico to compare and contrast the results. Again that surprised me. Let me know what you all think about this updated video and if there are any other tests you would like to see. Part 2 Part 3 I took a deeper look into the New Mexico's armor to determine the ships defensive strengths and weaknesses. On part 3 I shot at the New Mexico while parallel and at angles to see how the armor reacts in differing circumstances. The New Mexico definitely showed some promise in certain cases. For me the only issue with the New Mexico is the ships speed. I am interested to see what you all think. Leave some comments and let me know what you all think. Edited January 13, 2016 by Captain_Crit 21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #2 Posted January 7, 2016 A must watch for Tier VI BB brawlers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,716 [-K-] Lord_Zath Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester, WoWS Community Contributors, Wiki Editor 6,567 posts 28,823 battles Report post #3 Posted January 7, 2016 Neat videos! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,298 [A-D-F] alexf24 Members 7,879 posts 44,093 battles Report post #4 Posted January 7, 2016 Well done. Thanks for posting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #5 Posted January 7, 2016 I don't want to give away spoilers by talking about them...lol but I would have never thought the results would be what the test showed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,183 [PTRGT] mohawkdriver [PTRGT] Members 4,535 posts 17,019 battles Report post #6 Posted January 7, 2016 Noice. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
904 [CLOVR] teamoldmill Beta Testers 3,667 posts 1,637 battles Report post #7 Posted January 7, 2016 Was not a surprise here. I always thought the Fuso was much better armored than people say it is. It is not weak at all. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
385 steelreserv27 Members 1,049 posts 2,585 battles Report post #8 Posted January 7, 2016 Was not a surprise here. I always thought the Fuso was much better armored than people say it is. It is not weak at all. Not even from the Nagato test? Thats the part that surprised me most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
261 [EGI] Swine_007 [EGI] Beta Testers 1,243 posts 32,688 battles Report post #9 Posted January 7, 2016 Good videos, thank you. I'd be curious to see what the results would be vs a NM with angled shots as you showed in the first video vs the Fuso. iirc from a 30 degree bow on shot you did hit the shell room below the turret but from the 90 degree side it didn't. Regardless I will be interested to see the next instalment . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,629 Super_Dreadnought Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 14,008 posts 5,814 battles Report post #10 Posted January 7, 2016 Subscribed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #11 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Neat videos! Thanks! Edited January 7, 2016 by Captain_Crit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,153 [WOLF5] Khafni [WOLF5] Members 6,550 posts 29,934 battles Report post #12 Posted January 7, 2016 Did you find that the targets stopped receiving damage at a certain point? I understand that when a section of the ship has "maxed out" its damage it can't be hurt by getting shot there anymore. Just curious if that became a factor in your tests. Great videos, BTW. I only drive a Warspite. It is also tier 6. If you have the time and interest test out all three tier 6 BB's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
904 [CLOVR] teamoldmill Beta Testers 3,667 posts 1,637 battles Report post #13 Posted January 7, 2016 Not even from the Nagato test? Thats the part that surprised me most. True enough, but.... even with the Nagato, I had a bear of a time with Fusos. I just never understood the whole "Fuso has weak armor" thing when it seemed every bit as tough, if not more than the NM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,490 [---] Raptor_alcor Banned 6,739 posts 10,154 battles Report post #14 Posted January 7, 2016 I'm seeing shells getting eaten by the water still that should have managed to go through the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #15 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Did you find that the targets stopped receiving damage at a certain point? I understand that when a section of the ship has "maxed out" its damage it can't be hurt by getting shot there anymore. Just curious if that became a factor in your tests. Great videos, BTW. I only drive a Warspite. It is also tier 6. If you have the time and interest test out all three tier 6 BB's. Ooooo yeah I will definitely factor in the Warspite. I don't own one so I cannot shoot with it but I think that I should be able to shoot at in in the training rooms. Thanks for the idea. Edited January 7, 2016 by Captain_Crit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #16 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Well done. Thanks for posting. Thanks for the nice comments. Edited January 7, 2016 by Captain_Crit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
386 Misniso Members 2,829 posts 6,653 battles Report post #17 Posted January 7, 2016 I think it's nuts how quickly the Nagato completely disabled the turrets of both battleships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
53 Malevolent_Fist Members 79 posts 5,310 battles Report post #18 Posted January 7, 2016 Great video man, real interesting. Just sold my NM (didnt like it that much anyway) and bought back the Fuso. Just subscribed and hope to see more in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #19 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Was not a surprise here. I always thought the Fuso was much better armored than people say it is. It is not weak at all. I think because the New Mexico was slower I assumed that it was going to be better armored. At least for the purposes of these tests I was wrong with that assumption. I think that is what caused my surprise. Edited January 7, 2016 by Captain_Crit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,788 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,750 posts 15,858 battles Report post #20 Posted January 7, 2016 I'll watch the video later, but for the love of god USE THE DEFAULT FORUM TEXT FONT. Your post is unreadable for me in mobile and I bet I would have to bump up the font size on my home computer. All you are doing is shooting yourself in the foot by doing otherwise. Only reason I'm even giving you a chance, because I can't read WTH you posted, is because the following posts are done in a readable font and say the videos were very helpful. There are undoubtedly others who just come in, see your poor choice of font and go "LOL Nope" and close the browser tab. Why do that to yourself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #21 Posted January 7, 2016 Noice. Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #22 Posted January 7, 2016 Subscribed. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for subscribing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
268 Hellgrunt Supertester 952 posts 13,160 battles Report post #23 Posted January 8, 2016 With the Fuso's front turret citadel, I've noticed that it's much easier to hit with plunging fire. Do the test from a range of 10 to 15 kilometers you should see a difference. I haven tested it yet, but I'm curious how the New Mexico will compare with the Fuso using plunging fire. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 Captain_Crit Members 218 posts 2,859 battles Report post #24 Posted January 8, 2016 Good videos, thank you. I'd be curious to see what the results would be vs a NM with angled shots as you showed in the first video vs the Fuso. iirc from a 30 degree bow on shot you did hit the shell room below the turret but from the 90 degree side it didn't. Regardless I will be interested to see the next instalment . Thanks! Part 3 of this series I will go over the New Mexico in more depth so in that video I will try to include the shots on an angled bow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
24 Celebrim Members 86 posts 1,521 battles Report post #25 Posted January 8, 2016 And this explains why I often get better results against a Fuso using HE in the New Mexico, until I can obtain that full broadside. And it also explains why you can't give anything a full broadside in the New Mexico. So, Fuso - faster, better armored, longer range = balance. Because, WG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites