242 KiwiColdbeer Members 665 posts 5,463 battles Report post #1 Posted January 7, 2016 Does anyone else feel that they get a worse MM when they have flags mounted? Especially the XP flags. It's probably just bad luck, but it seems that way often enough for me to ask the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #2 Posted January 7, 2016 Over a much larger sample size, can't say I've noticed anything like this so far. It's just that we tend to pay more attention to frustrations than to good runs which we take for granted. The MM does a lot of shady things, but messing with the flags probably isn't one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,386 [SYN] Camo68 Members 3,775 posts 25,446 battles Report post #3 Posted January 7, 2016 I took some stats once in the Minekaze and it was 20/40/40 (Top Tier/Mid Tier/Bottom Tier) but that was a sample of 20 games so only a brief sample. I think you notice tiers more when you put the flags on as you are after a big score to maximise your XP so therefore more aware. Something like "a watched kettle never boils" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #4 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I can tell you that since the last patch, MM in general has been worse across the board. So has battleship shell deviation. Confirmation Bias? Maybe. But MM really has been strange - I've got a folder full of replays (22!) since the patch that have very wacky MM - such as the double tirpitz vs. double nagato matchup. Edited January 7, 2016 by aether_tech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
242 KiwiColdbeer Members 665 posts 5,463 battles Report post #5 Posted January 7, 2016 I can tell you that since the last patch, MM in general has been worse across the board. So has battleship shell deviation. Confirmation Bias? Maybe. But MM really has been strange - I've got a folder full of replays (22!) since the patch that have very wacky MM - such as the double tirpitz vs. double nagato matchup. BB dispersion.....yes have noticed....not impressed..........but.......whatareyagunnado? And as for "confirmation bias"...this is a term that gets thrown around a lot...and it irritates me just a smidge. Just because someone speaks up that they have experienced an issue that someone has posted on does not make it biased, in any way,shape or form. Because if it was WG could play this card everyday of the week when problems are raised. It is something that Gaijin is very good at(even though they don't use the term directly) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #6 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) But MM really has been strange - I've got a folder full of replays (22!) since the patch that have very wacky MM - such as the double tirpitz vs. double nagato matchup. Who doesn't. The MM deliberately messes with you sometimes, that's all I'm going to say before the tin foil hat exposé team arrive at the scene. Flags though? Meh. Edited January 7, 2016 by gurudennis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
855 Carrier_Taiyo Beta Testers 2,420 posts 1,809 battles Report post #7 Posted January 7, 2016 I can tell you that since the last patch, MM in general has been worse across the board. So has battleship shell deviation. Confirmation Bias? Maybe. But MM really has been strange - I've got a folder full of replays (22!) since the patch that have very wacky MM - such as the double tirpitz vs. double nagato matchup. I'm guessing people are playing odd ships because of the event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #8 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I'm guessing people are playing odd ships because of the event. Yes, but according to how MM is supposed to work - balancing the teams - that sort of MM shouldn't happen. BB's at least for the last several patches, have been more or less equal. Two tirpitz and a Kongo vs. two nagato and a new york, and a kongo, is not equal. In this case, 4 is not greater than 3. I had a game today, with 3 vs. 5 DD, and they had a Nagato, fuso, kongo, to our new mexico, new york, new york, imperator. (someone divisioned an Imperator, with a New Mexico.....why? No idea.) I just ran my Konigsberg into the back of the map and left. Call me an [edited], but gotta protest somehow. Turns out, the game was over in 7 minutes because their dd's just capped. The Nagato had 2000 some base xp. Edited January 7, 2016 by aether_tech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
221 DelroyMonjo Members 1,116 posts 10,974 battles Report post #9 Posted January 7, 2016 Dunno if it's MM or not but my W/L has dropped from 50% to 24% in the past week. Why do I keep getting on FAIL teams which end up 3 or 4 kills vs 11 or 12 kills for the enemy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,668 battles Report post #10 Posted January 7, 2016 BB dispersion.....yes have noticed....not impressed..........but.......whatareyagunnado? And as for "confirmation bias"...this is a term that gets thrown around a lot...and it irritates me just a smidge. Just because someone speaks up that they have experienced an issue that someone has posted on does not make it biased, in any way,shape or form. Because if it was WG could play this card everyday of the week when problems are raised. It is something that Gaijin is very good at(even though they don't use the term directly) Are you sure what confirmation bias is? Because if only a few people complain about an 'issue', while it's simultaneously fine for everyone else, and other people are having the exact opposite happen (i.e. you complain you can't light anything on fire, other guy gets a fire every salvo), then It's reasonable to assume you're just focusing on your bad games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
74 DeeZee8 Beta Testers 841 posts 3,908 battles Report post #11 Posted January 7, 2016 Dunno if it's MM or not but my W/L has dropped from 50% to 24% in the past week. Why do I keep getting on FAIL teams which end up 3 or 4 kills vs 11 or 12 kills for the enemy? Sometimes new play style from ourselves is necessary i.e. Leeroy Jenkins/ Geronimo / Banzhai, to motivate these moments Share this post Link to post Share on other sites