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Best CAs to hose DDs

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DDs seem to rule at the moment, just wondering what are the best CAs to carry out anti DD warfare from tiers 4 through 10?  Thanks.

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atlanata's rainbow arc makes it almost impossible to damage soviet dd's and other dd's 

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The Mogami (with the 6" guns) is quite good at tier 8.  And the tier 7 premium Atlanta is pretty darned good too.

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Mogami for the overall winner

 

 

Every tier has good CA's to kill DD's some are more situational than others.

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Omaha, Murmansk, Cleveland, Mogami, Ibuki & Des Moines to name a few, however most CAs will work, just watch out for BBs.

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atlanata's rainbow arc makes it almost impossible to damage soviet dd's and other dd's

 

Unless you get close. Then the Atlanta is a DD mass extinction event.
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I do well with aurora at tier 3, Kuma at 4 (phoenix is ok though)      Murmansk  at 5,  cleveland at 6,   atlanta at 7,     mogami at 8-10.    

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The Germans get better hydroacoustic search with longer range than Japan and the US iirc. So if you're trying to search for the little buggers they are probably best. As for actually killing them, any cruiser whether heavy or light can do it, ideally though they have fast firing guns. Can't go wrong with ships like Cleveland, Atlanta, Nurnberg, Mogami. I'd pick Mogami for overall best choice.

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Atlanta, Omaha, Cleveland,

 

The Russian DDs are way to fast to kill if out at 12 km or further, you are leading so far they are off the screen , so you cannot zoom all the way.

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The german T5-6 are really good with very fast guns. Omaha and their ilk are excellent. Aoba and furacrappa are not. Rate of fire is too low.

It's mostly about ROF for killing DDs.

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Kuma

Phoenix(the champ DD hunter IMO - agile and super fast, small, lots of fast firing guns on both sides of ship, torps)

Omaha

Cleveland(close range only - long shell flight time)

Murmansk

Atlanta(close range only - long shell flight time)

Mogami(155mm)

 

Haven't played German other than Konigsberg, which was pretty solid dd killer too.

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Thank you for all of the input.  Was thinking going German to actually stand a chance at detcecting and also battling bigger ships.

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At Tier 5 both the Omaha and Murmansk (basically the same ship) can bring 6 guns facing forward. That's only one less than a full broadside. You can attack DDs directly pounding them as you chase and since you are going directly at them you are able to dodge torps easily too.

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Mogami is ridiculous and awesome for shredding DDs.   It usually only takes a couple of salvos.

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The Nurnberg with its high rate of fire and its fast flight time on the shells, shreds DDs.  Even with AP, the shells devastate as they seem to be too light to overpenetrate as heavier shells would.  It can also lay a devastating spread of its own torpedoes, with six on each side, great arcs for the tubes, and the fish moves with great speed.

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Murmansk here. It can still wreck some DD's in the higher part of its tier range and has decent enough maneuverability to avoid major torp damage. I've wrecked DD's in the Pensacola, but it's damn sure not going to hose them down. I've done pretty well with Konigsberg and Nurnberg also.

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any CA can clobber a DD once they  have freedom and opportunity to do that.

 

Some are better equipped to do it than others.

 

Speed and fast-firing guns(among other things) are going to be more valuable than armor and bigger slow-firing guns for hunting DDs.

 

Which is why Omaha is superior to Furutaka for DD hunting, and a Mogami is superior to a New Orleans.

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Mogami for me. 15 6 inch guns tear up DDs pretty quick. Currently mine is set up in a general purpose fashion but im going to switch to the hydro acoustic search and start specifically looking for DDs with it. I very rarely eat torps as it is but if I can prevent them from hiding in smoke for long, then even better. Currently though I have the stealth upgrade equipped. Im thinking of switching to the detection upgrade to try to find them sooner, unless it only helps with maximum range. Does anyone know the specifics?

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Mogami, Atlanta, Cleveland, Myoko

 

Other CAs don't scare me when I'm in an IJN DD.

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Roon and Hindenburg are crazy good at killing DD's.  They have German sonar, good to really good RoF and crazy fast turret speeds.

 

The T9/10 KM CAs have the Cleveland's turret traverse and rate of fire, but much better shell velocity and use 203mm rounds.

 

Mogami has more dpm than Cleveland but the super slow traverse which can be a problem in DD fights

 

Nurnberg is also good if only because of the 5s reloads.

 

 

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The CAs that give me the most trouble are the Zao, Atlanta and the Omaha types (Murmansk, Marblehead).  Zao because they often cruise DD areas like island clusters.  Atlanta because of an incredible shower of shells.  Omahas because they have decent ROF and are nimble, very hard to torp and shoot back at.

 

I don't have as much trouble with German cruisers because I can switch to AP and really hurt their weak armor.

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Cleveland - Best overall fighter and game impacter, slow gun turn rate which can get you in trouble if a DD just pops up. ROF, accuracy, and 12 solid guns, can ruin DDs spotted from 7km in.

 

Mogami - Similar to Cleveland, but with torps

 

Atlanta - only true Cruiser Hard counter to DDs 7km in. Basically 3 DDs worth of guns with near instant gun turn rate, instant kill 4.5 torps make suicide rushing useless, one of the highest ROFs. Slow round flight time making running away easy and safe escape, but any close range engagements even in numbers is suicidal. (my record it taking on 4 DDs at once and winning.)

 

 

Generally to me a ship that can't turn guns fast is not a great counter to DDs. As DDs can own islands and will ruin any approaching Cruiser regardless of their accuracy. Long rang engagements against DDs needs support from other ships to spot them in the first place. Thus you can't be a counter if you need help. An Atlanta is terrible at support, but amazing at directly fighting DDs. German Cruisers generally are better at range, but worse at close range, thus are better at support but have less of a chance when it comes to 1v1 scenarios.

 

Overall DDs are the only true counters to DDs, as they can run from any Cruiser long before the Cruiser sees them. But running from a fight isn't winning or changing the game.

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