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USSR destroyers have the highest win rates at their tier from 6-9, and second only to the Midway at tier 10

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proof that in the absence of CVs, DDs control the game at higher tiers?

 

I just though the stat was interesting, and yeah i know they don't have near as many battles as the others yet.

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Players have noted that DDs make an extraordinary impact in Ranked in the absence of CVs. For that logic to carry over to Randoms is not a surprise.

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There's more to a ship than winrate. A ship can have a high winrate but be an absolute pain to play. A ship can have lower average damage per match but still be overpowered. 

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CV does nothing to change RU DD play.  I'll just get my 5-10 plane kills.  RU DDs are just as stealth as a Zao only they cant invisifire.  More CVs wont change anything RU DD wise.

 

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Map vision is important.  The Russian destroyers are very good at giving your team vision while denying it to the enemy, while also dealing a lot of damage.

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since the nerf, they are no longer that strong. 1week data show kiev down to 53% and its highest VFM DD

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They are still that strong.  I didn't change anything with my playstyle and still average over 60k damage a game in the kiev.  HP nerf is a joke because dodging is easy, AP was always better then HE even vs a BB.

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since the nerf, they are no longer that strong. 1week data show kiev down to 53% and its highest VFM DD

 

It's still at number one at win rate at tier 7 using the 1 week data.  The Khab is at 59% with the next closest being the Midway at 54%.  The Udaloi is at number one at 58%, beating the number two spot by 3%.  Both of these are for one week data as well.
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There's more to a ship than winrate. A ship can have a high winrate but be an absolute pain to play. A ship can have lower average damage per match but still be overpowered. 

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Anyway... I kill Khabs in every single X I have.  You can torp them in a shimmy ffs.  Only people with poor aim cant kill them.  They don't need a nerf if they give you trouble.  You just need to get better.

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since the nerf, they are no longer that strong. 1week data show kiev down to 53% and its highest VFM DD

 

53% is not that strong? When the average is close to 48% I would say that is still very strong. 

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I have a 81% overall win rate in my Des Moines, does that mean it needs a nerf?

 

I think you need a nerf, one persons performance does not paint as good a picture as general server stats. (which even then dont paint the best picture...)

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53% is 16th on the ranking.  so     while strong, no longer breaking.  it is below st louis  :P

 

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53% is 16th on the ranking.  so     while strong, no longer breaking.  it is below st louis  :P

 

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Seems very strong for its tier, comparing it to a tier 3 really is useless because low tier balance is not scrutinized nearly as much. 

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Anyway... I kill Khabs in every single X I have.  You can torp them in a shimmy ffs.  Only people with poor aim cant kill them.  They don't need a nerf if they give you trouble.  You just need to get better.

 

Where did anyone say anything about them needing a nerf?  This is just an observation about how the USSR DDs seem to be dictating high tier matches.
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 This is just an observation about how the USSR DDs seem to be dictating high tier matches.

 

Hardly.   A few very good RU DD playes are dictating high tier matches.      Look at the number of battles total, not statistically accurate.   

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Russian DD's also have the smallest sample size. Highly skilled players have a larger influence on the outcome as opposed to the other datasets. 

 

Just something to keep in mind

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it is interesting that  imperator nikoli (premium)  with all the newbies have 60% win.  goes to show how OP that ship is  :D 

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