A new class of ship

[Kaystonian8283]

So I've seen alot of info over the last couple of days thru wows forums an others, as well as, research on the actual ships themselves. An it really sparks an interest to what these ships could do for the game. I know playing cruisers going against bbs can be challenging due to lack of armor, dmg of the guns, an that your literally a floating cit. So what I'm thinking with the bigger guns it would prove way more effective against bbs yet not be OP in as its still a floating cit just better armored up top. It also promotes a hybrid game style between that off bb an ca an not to mention they are AA monsters. So I know this has been touch on some before, but I'm curious to how the players feel about it, and what the plans if any that the wg devs have for them. An I know it's more than possible to implement them since nearly all nations either had them or plans for them.

[Macabe]

If you look at the "what we know about ships" thread, they're already likely to make an appearance at some point.

[mr3awsome]

Where the CA/CL split happens depends on the nation. Its not bound to the fifth tier. 

[Kaystonian8283]

@macabe ya I took a look at it as well I'd seen where uss alaska could be a t6 prem an a super alaska to be a t7 or t8 prem tho I would mind seeing that as a t8 prem for the US tree (which it definitely needs), I'm extremely curious if they might be implemented soon or some time this year

[MrDeaf]

If Soviet mini cruisers are any indication, hybrid ships will be stronk, thanks to fast speed and faster RoF, high alpha damage guns.

Most OP battlecruiser would probably be Scharnhorst, even though it's classified as a BB.

 

And yeah, they will be added in eventually.

Hood, Alaska, Stalingrad, Scharnhorst, Design 1047, etc.

[Show_Me_Your_Cits]

@macabe ya I took a look at it as well I'd seen where uss alaska could be a t6 prem an a super alaska to be a t7 or t8 prem tho I would mind seeing that as a t8 prem for the US tree (which it definitely needs), I'm extremely curious if they might be implemented soon or some time this year

 

I would open my wallet so fast for a T8 USN BC my credit card would catch on fire. 

[Kaystonian8283]

@awesome I completely agree with you was just a reference since it's after t5 most things change, but ya totally agree with you an whose to say it couldn't stem off the bb tree's? Since these ships went thru many different classifications anything is possible 

[Macabe]

@macabe ya I took a look at it as well I'd seen where uss alaska could be a t6 prem an a super alaska to be a t7 or t8 prem tho I would mind seeing that as a t8 prem for the US tree (which it definitely needs), I'm extremely curious if they might be implemented soon or some time this year

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[Kaystonian8283]

 

I would open my wallet so fast for a T8 USN BC my credit card would catch on fire. 

 

lol lighting couldn't strike as fast as my card purchasing that ship 

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thx buddy had no clue much appreciated!!!

If Soviet mini cruisers are any indication, hybrid ships will be stronk, thanks to fast speed and faster RoF, high alpha damage guns.

Most OP battlecruiser would probably be Scharnhorst, even though it's classified as a BB.

 

And yeah, they will be added in eventually.

Hood, Alaska, Stalingrad, Scharnhorst, Design 1047, etc.

I really can't wait for that day to come 

[mr3awsome]

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I do? What is this black magic?

 

@awesome I completely agree with you was just a reference since it's after t5 most things change, but ya totally agree with you an whose to say it couldn't stem off the bb tree's? Since these ships went thru many different classifications anything is possible 

 

Well they are most likely to come from cruisers because they are developments thereof, rather than shrunken versions of battleships

 

 

 

 

[Kaystonian8283]

I do? What is this black magic?

 

 

Well they are most likely to come from cruisers because they are developments thereof, rather than shrunken versions of battleships

 

 

 

 

Again I do agree but I could see them doing it 1 or 2 ways as well as in just a prem ship t6 or t8, and or a pathway between bb an ca like the (kv13 was in wot) due the lack of cbs 

[DeathScythe21]

Again I do agree but I could see them doing it 1 or 2 ways as well as in just a prem ship t6 or t8, and or a pathway between bb an ca like the (kv13 was in wot) due the lack of cbs 

 

I know that this is probably bumping an old post, but i used the search to find out instead of creating a new post, i think for the time, Add the Alaska as a tier 10 CB, Because i think tier 6 or 8 is a little low for a ship designed off of a Baltimore hull, basically split it off from the baltimore itself and add it as a tier 10 next to the Des Moine, that way it gets rid of the whole where does it land, because lets face it, it is tier 10 level, especially for its AA power too. Plus it never had a refit and upgrade so it would be hard to add it at a lower tier in the tech tree, and it would be too powerful as a tier 6 or 8 ship as a prem, so tier 10 would be perfect for it. just my opinion on where it should stand and how to best add it, idk how WG are gonna add battle cruisers but this seems like the best way for the Alaska.

[Khovax]

 

I know that this is probably bumping an old post, but i used the search to find out instead of creating a new post, i think for the time, Add the Alaska as a tier 10 CB, Because i think tier 6 or 8 is a little low for a ship designed off of a Baltimore hull, basically split it off from the baltimore itself and add it as a tier 10 next to the Des Moine, that way it gets rid of the whole where does it land, because lets face it, it is tier 10 level, especially for its AA power too. Plus it never had a refit and upgrade so it would be hard to add it at a lower tier in the tech tree, and it would be too powerful as a tier 6 or 8 ship as a prem, so tier 10 would be perfect for it. just my opinion on where it should stand and how to best add it, idk how WG are gonna add battle cruisers but this seems like the best way for the Alaska.

 

The Alaska is kind of an odd duck where yes it can be classed as a cruiser but at the same time it can also be classed as a battle cruiser and it just so happens that battle cruisers get lumped together with battle ships just like the Amagi and Myoko.

 

that's right the Amagi and Myoko are both battle cruisers.

[DeathScythe21]

 

The Alaska is kind of an odd duck where yes it can be classed as a cruiser but at the same time it can also be classed as a battle cruiser and it just so happens that battle cruisers get lumped together with battle ships just like the Amagi and Myoko.

 

that's right the Amagi and Myoko are both battle cruisers.

 

Well, it is a tricky one. It has 12 inch, 305mm rifles so it would most likely be in the BB tree, but at the same time it is small. It is,afterall, a Baltimore hull with 12 inch guns. 9 of them infact. it would be easier and more logical for wargaming to put it in as a tier 10 cruiser that splits off from the baltimore. i mean hell the T57 heavy in WoT isn't really a heavy and it really isn't a meduim, it doesn't have the armor and doesn't have the speed, i know a poor example yes, because the Alaska would have the speed of a cruiser 33 knts, and the firepower of a BB, and 12inch guns would still do a lot of dmg, especially if you use the speed to get into a knife fight with BBs, and it would be amazing at range against other cruisers. So placing it at tier 10 either classified as a cruiser or as its actual designation, CB1, a Battle Cruiser. and the split should be at the Baltimore. that just sounds more logical than say giving it as a tier6/8 prem or trying to add it as a lower tier in the tech tree when it is really a high tier ship. again just my opinion, Wg has the final say on how and where things will be.

[Enforcer017]

Ishizuchi, Myogi, Kongo, and Amagi are all battlecruisers, but they've been worked into the battleship line, at least for now. I suspect we will see complete battlecruiser trees as the Germans and British are introduced, and we will see more variety in their capabilities as well. Royal Navy ships will have speed and firepower at the cost of armor while the german ones will have speed and armor at the cost of firepower. I personally cant wait.