U.S.S.R DD fleet HE damage

[RockaholicRaven]

This has got to be addressed 233 hits with HE shells and i did only 38k damage if im doing my math right here that means i was averaging 170 damage a hit... What in the flying f*ck who in their right mind thinks that, that is ok........ IF ITS NOT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED AT LOW TIER AT BARE MINIMUM IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AT HIGHER TIER IF IM PLAYING IN MY UDALOI AND GETTING OVER 200 HITS A GAME AVERAGE BUT ONLY DO DAMAGE HALF THOSE HITS SOMETHING IS WRONG.....

[Batwingsix]

You're shooting HE at heavily armored ships at high tiers... you wanting citadel penetrations from them? Once a certain area of the ship (superstructure especially) takes enough damage from HE it wills top giving said damage. If you're hitting a BB or the sides of a CA, your not supposed to do much damage if you are spamming HE. For CA's, if you have a good broadside maybe try out AP...

[RockaholicRaven]

You're shooting HE at heavily armored ships at high tiers... you wanting citadel penetrations from them? Once a certain area of the ship (superstructure especially) takes enough damage from HE it wills top giving said damage. If you're hitting a BB or the sides of a CA, your not supposed to do much damage if you are spamming HE. For CA's, if you have a good broadside maybe try out AP...

You must not play USR DD's i assume. (ill upload the replay of the game if required) I was landing shells on a variety of ships and not in a concentrated area im not an average dd player i know how to spread out shells across the entirety of enemy ships. 

[beliy_demon]

I think you may be doing it wrong...  275 hits = 75k damage

 

 

 

[Raptor_alcor]

no RU DDs do not need superbuffs Add 30K to the damage your HE did and you got the true damage your HE did considering 30K damage over 10 fires which can only be set by HE, which is honestly ALOT

[RockaholicRaven]

I think you may be doing it wrong...  275 hits = 75k damage

 

 

 

Before or after recent HE nerf? also better quality picture? i cant read anything on that thing

[beliy_demon]

The shot you posted is also way above average for Udaloi :0

[beliy_demon]

Before or after recent HE nerf? also better quality picture? i cant read anything on that thing

 

This is last night.   The Udaloi / Khab guns did not get nerfed (top tier ones anyways).

[RockaholicRaven]

no RU DDs do not need superbuffs Add 30K to the damage your HE did and you got the true damage your HE did considering 30K damage over 10 fires which can only be set by HE, which is honestly ALOT

 

super buff? are you retarded you are asking a gun boat to have to use nothing but ap shells

[atPrick__]

Welcome to life after pissing off Battleships, Atlanta has been here for a while, sit down and relax you will be here a while too.

[Raptor_alcor]

 

super buff? are you retarded you are asking a gun boat to have to use nothing but ap shells

 

You are asking for a relatively light shell to actually do some serious damage, were you aiming for the armor belt? you fail if you were. 

[RockaholicRaven]

 

This is last night.   The Udaloi / Khab guns did not get nerfed (top tier ones anyways).

 

I cant say i believe that before the patch i was having no issues dealing HE damage in my udaloi

[beliy_demon]

 

I cant say i believe that before the patch i was having no issues dealing HE damage in my udaloi

 

You were not using stock guns were you?

 

The trick is to only aim at super structure with HE and only do it until it is black.   If you do no damage, either switch to AP or switch targets.

[RockaholicRaven]

 

You were not using stock guns were you?

 

The trick is to only aim at super structure with HE and only do it until it is black.   If you do no damage, either switch to AP or switch targets.

No, fully upgraded Udaloi. Also i promise you i know how to aim HE shells at ships my old turret destroying friend

[beliy_demon]

No fully upgraded Udaloi. Also i promise you know how to aim HE shells at ships my old turret destroying friend

 

Ok, in that case your guns were indeed nerfed.    Only top guns did not get nerfed.      

 

I've never used post-nerf stock Udaloi guns, the above shot was with the top guns after nerf.

[RockaholicRaven]

 

Ok, in that case your guns were indeed nerfed.    Only top guns did not get nerfed.      

 

I've never used post-nerf stock Udaloi guns, the above shot was with the top guns after nerf.

This is the current stats max HE damage coming in at 1600 on a tier 9 gun boat.....its a joke

 

[Compassghost]

Max 1600 damage equates to 528 damage to superstructure and 264 after saturation.

 

Also, looking at your list of hits, a quarter of them seem to have gone to the Colorado, which is relatively resistant to HE and covered with secondary and AA guns. Gun hits don't do any recorded damage, and neither do deck hits and belt hits which are absorbed.

[RockaholicRaven]

Max 1600 damage equates to 528 damage to superstructure and 264 after saturation.

 

Also, looking at your list of hits, a quarter of them seem to have gone to the Colorado, which is relatively resistant to HE and covered with secondary and AA guns. Gun hits don't do any recorded damage, and neither do deck hits and belt hits which are absorbed.

 

I was shooting colo with AP :| he shored himself. Set him on fire with HE then switched to AP and rained it down on him

[Cruiser_Gneisenau]

Please... please don't ask for them to buff anything Soviet. Ever.

[RockaholicRaven]

Please... please don't ask for them to buff anything Soviet. Ever.

 

and your reasoning behind thinking a tier 9 gun boat should do average damage of 170 a hit with HE is?

[Cruiser_Gneisenau]

 

and your reasoning behind thinking a tier 9 gun boat should do average damage of 170 a hit with HE is?

 

I don't think Wargaming should be encouraged to strengthen Russian anything. They'll do it on their own given time, and it will be enormously biased.

[EasternDragon_2014]

Yes this is frustrating.... you gotta try spam AP as much as you can. 

[atPrick__]

 

I don't think Wargaming should be encouraged to strengthen Russian anything. They'll do it on their own given time, and it will be enormously biased.

 

[RockaholicRaven]

 

I don't think Wargaming should be encouraged to strengthen Russian anything. They'll do it on their own given time, and it will be enormously biased.

 

So you literally have no legitimate reasoning other then fear that a Russian based company would over buff U.S.S.R type ships....... 

 

[Retnav54]

Just doing a rough tally of the damage in that screenshot, it's over 130k total damage easily. And close to half of that is HE and fire damage. Frankly, I'm kind of left wondering what the problem is....