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Tirpitz torp and the HE "bug"

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No, it's not a "bug"...I just said that to get your attention.  It does bug the hell out of me.

 

I just got the Tirpitz.  It has torps.  I've discovered a big problem.  When I play dd and cr with torps, I'm always in HE mode. I've played enough to establish a motor skill that requires no conscious thought when switching between torps (3) and HE (1).  The (1) (3) (1) (3) is literally accomplished without any thought...a true motor skill that operates flawlessly and subconsciously under the stress of combat.

 

Now, enter the Tirpitz. I'm in AP all the time.  When I take a (3) look see or fire, my automatic motor response is to switch back using (1).  It took me several games to figure out what the hell was happening.  I'd be in AP, and then notice halfway through the game that I had switched to HE...and couldn't figure out what why.

 

So, if you are ever driving the Tirpitz and suddenly find yourself in HE mode when you thought you set AP...this might be your problem too. 

 

  

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Tirpitz has HE???:trollface:

 

HE in a Tipitz is a thing.

I laugh every time I see it.

 

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Saw a noob firing only HE with one last night and when I suggested he switch to AP, he told me I don't have one so I don't know what I am talking about. I go look him up after I get sunk by the enemy battleships and see that he has a 30% WR overall and 0% with that Tirpitz that is the only ship he has above tier 5. Its fun when these morons are on the other team but not so much when you get stuck with them on your team.

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Yes, in fact lots of people complained when Tirpitz first came out that it had an AP-HE bug that spontaneously switched you back to HE when you were using AP. There's even a couple of threads on it. 

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Doesn't pressing 1 when you've got torps selected give you HE and pressing 2 gives you AP?...

 

The trick is to remember to press 2 after you are done using torps. I switch to torps a lot to check speed and direction on enemy battleships frequently due to the insane number of Yamato and Montana skippers who like sailing backward or sitting still. Eventually those guys will learn but I hope its not for a very long time.

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Doesn't pressing 1 when you've got torps selected give you HE and pressing 2 gives you AP?...

 

Yes. And pressing once only switches back to main guns and selects that shell for loading after the next volley. Makes it's pretty easy to tell when you make that mistake if you normally ripple fire like I do and suddenly the ships's popping off a broadside without your input. 

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Doesn't pressing 1 when you've got torps selected give you HE and pressing 2 gives you AP?...

 

Yes!  And when playing CR and DD, it becomes second nature to toggle between 1 and 3 (between HE and torps).  But with the Tirpitz, you don't want to toggle between HE and torps.  You want to toggle between AP and torps.  But after all that time in CR and DD, the motor skill toggle from 1 to 3 and back again becomes automatic (without conscious thought).  So you toggle back to 1 (when you want to toggle to 2) without even realizing it.

 

I might just move the HE button somewhere else when playing Tirpitz.  Of course, then I'll forget to move it back.

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That's something that can be corrected by glancing at the Keyboard.. 

 

What bothers me more is how many people use HE only in the damn thing.. Had a guy today argue with me that HE does more damage to Cruisers.. 

wth?! Like that one I just 1 volley kill with AP? He doesn't respond.. I get 3 kills, we win. He's second from the bottom on score board, above another Tirpitz. 

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Doesn't pressing 1 when you've got torps selected give you HE and pressing 2 gives you AP?...

 

​That would depend on what you had loaded prior to switching to torps.

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That's something that can be corrected by glancing at the Keyboard.. 

 

What bothers me more is how many people use HE only in the damn thing.. Had a guy today argue with me that HE does more damage to Cruisers.. 

wth?! Like that one I just 1 volley kill with AP? He doesn't respond.. I get 3 kills, we win. He's second from the bottom on score board, above another Tirpitz.

 

Must be the same clown I saw doing the same thing only we lost since all he did was HE damage to the enemy cruisers and BBs.

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I've been 'that guy' in the Tirpitz before.  I think others are right, it's the habit of hitting '1' to return to guns when leaving torp mode.

 

I certainly find myself cursing in the Tirpitz when I find myself firing HE at battleships.  It happens far more often than I'd expect, even when accounting for my own Ministry-of-Silly-Walks tendencies.

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