Matchmaking still a joke.

[EvilZero]

I love the patch notes about matchmaking & how in one of them it stated a 1 up, 1 down system. Well, if you look at the attached thumbnail, I think their tier identifying system is a bit broken.

[paradat]

You do realize that 1 up 1 down is a three thier spread right?

[pmgaudio]

I am not entirely sure how many times this has been posted in reply to this MM crap, nor how many times I myself have, but here it is AGAIN

You are welcome

[Lord_Dolza]

I love the patch notes about matchmaking & how in one of them it stated a 1 up, 1 down system. Well, if you look at the attached thumbnail, I think their tier identifying system is a bit broken.

 

the only thing that really changed with MM is tier 3 BB's no more kawachi's against kongo

[CPT_Nelson]

Looks like a fair match. I guess you lost and came here to rage? If you had won, would you have come here to complain as well? 

[I_M_U_465]

Ya, posting us an example of the 1 up/1 down system was kind of fail.

[Legendary_Typo]

Looks like an evenly balanced match to me... And maybe I'm missing something, but WG never said there's a 1+/1- MM system?

[I_M_U_465]

Looks like an evenly balanced match to me... And maybe I'm missing something, but WG never said there's a 1+/1- MM system?

 

whether or not they said it, they do use it.

[Crucis]

I love the patch notes about matchmaking & how in one of them it stated a 1 up, 1 down system. Well, if you look at the attached thumbnail, I think their tier identifying system is a bit broken.

 

For crying out loud, dude, your highest tier ship is only a tier 6 (a CV) and you only have 250 or so battles.  There's nothing wrong with the MM in the order of battle pic you posted.  Nothing at all.

 

Seriously, today I played my tier 6 BB New Mexico for yucks (I'm up to the tier 8 North Carolina, but kept the NewMex), ended up in a tier 8 battle, and did over 100k damage. Mostly to higher tier ships (pasted the holy living heII out of a Tirpitz* and rocked a Colorado's world too).  So don't tell me that bottom tier ships can't do well.  If you're bottom tier and you can't hack it, it's your fault most of the time.

 

 

* The Tirpitz in question made the dreadful error of running aground broadside to me when I was around 12-15km away (IIRC) for good plunging fire.  I just aimed right under his funnels and baba-BOOM ... a couple of citadels and a bunch of other solid hits. 

 

[Nuisance_Value]

The MM really really doesn't want to balance BB numbers or tiers at the moment. Every other patch or so some new method of introducing imbalance seems to be implemented to replace a different one. I still marvel that the MM used to be able to take 10 cruisers and 6 DDs and split them into 7 cruisers vs 5 DDs.

[Capitan_Crunch]

wow that is seriously the formula they use? No wonder it is SO FUBARRED! a tier 3 St Loius gets chucked into tier 5 a lot where a tier five DD out ranges and can do more damage with just guns and they are dang fast and invisable just chace ya down.Tthen  to boot they can take  more then a few complete  salvos from broadsides and still live. WG needs to start tiering them  more by years like ww1, ww2, post ww2  and then a +1 or -1 just sad actually, may have lost all hope for this game now......

[I_M_U_465]

wow that is seriously the formula they use? No wonder it is SO FUBARRED! a tier 3 St Loius gets chucked into tier 5 a lot where a tier five DD out ranges and can do more damage with just guns and they are dang fast and invisable just chace ya down.Tthen  to boot they can take  more then a few complete  salvos from broadsides and still live. WG needs to start tiering them  more by years like ww1, ww2, post ww2  and then a +1 or -1 just sad actually, may have lost all hope for this game now......

 

The only system available that is lower than this is +0/-0. Problem is unless you have at least, oh, where this game is concerned, about 500k or so players queued at any given time you will never get a match.....ever. 

 

The system would be only tier 1 goes against tier 1, same for all the other tiers.

 

So, if you only want to sit in queue all day, then fight for +0/-0. If you want a decent chance to play some at least, then live with it. This is as fair as they can be while still allowing players to actually play.

[MrDeaf]

wow that is seriously the formula they use? No wonder it is SO FUBARRED! a tier 3 St Loius gets chucked into tier 5 a lot where a tier five DD out ranges and can do more damage with just guns and they are dang fast and invisable just chace ya down.Tthen  to boot they can take  more then a few complete  salvos from broadsides and still live. WG needs to start tiering them  more by years like ww1, ww2, post ww2  and then a +1 or -1 just sad actually, may have lost all hope for this game now......

 

sounds like you are complaining that you aren't the biggest fish in the pond.

 

You just have to learn to play with bigger fish until you get to T10.

[Crucis]

wow that is seriously the formula they use? No wonder it is SO FUBARRED! a tier 3 St Loius gets chucked into tier 5 a lot where a tier five DD out ranges and can do more damage with just guns and they are dang fast and invisable just chace ya down. Then  to boot they can take  more then a few complete  salvos from broadsides and still live. WG needs to start tiering them  more by years like ww1, ww2, post ww2  and then a +1 or -1 just sad actually, may have lost all hope for this game now......

 

 

Crunch, it really is NOT that bad.  Honestly, there really is no reason that a ship that's 2 tiers down can't find ways to be useful and at least moderately productive.

 

For example, I was in my New Mexico, a tier 6 BB that was fully upgraded in a tier 8 battle a couple of days back.  Did I complain?  No.  What I did was go out and do over 105k damage as a bottom tier ship, entirely against tier 8 and 7 ships.

 

Another example.  There was a recent post on the forum of a guy in a tier 8 North Carolina BB killing not one, but TWO Tier 10 Yamatos, doing something like 14 citadels over the course of the battle.  Now, if you watch the youtube of it in the post and read the posts, you'll see and read the the Yamato drivers made some terrible mistakes, showing their broadside to the NC who them blasted each of them with multiple citadels at very short range.  But still, the NC driver did it!  (Both of the Yammy drivers were afraid that the NC was trying to ram them and turned to try to evade him, thus exposing their side to him.)

 

The lesson here is that just because your bottom tier and 2 tiers below the top tier does not mean that you can't be productive.  You just have to learn the game, learn to your ships' strengths and weaknesses, learn to look for opportunities to take advantage of your strengths and do damage even when bottom tier.  And so on.   Being bottom tier does NOT mean that you are incapable of doing anything.

 

And as others have said, it was worse during beta and before when the spread was 3 tiers instead of 2.  But even then, I didn't despair.  I just kept looking for chances to be useful and productive.

 

 

[atPrick__]

I'm just glad it's not a 3 tier spread, getting nuked by a Yam in Nagato was not fun...

[Marttt1nek]

This seems pretty normal to me. 

[Zyu]

Nothing to see here.. Move along.

[Nuisance_Value]

I don't think the tier spread is much of an issue. I would much rather games be balanced by ship classes and ters of those classes, however. For example, I don't think balancing two high tier BBs with two high tier DDs really works. Additionally, the MM seems to try very hard at the moment to mismatch BB tiers.

[BlazerSparta]

The current MM spread works for the most part, the only problem are a few OP/UP hulls and general power spikes in the tiers that make some brackets feel like crap.

[awiggin]

 

 

Crunch, it really is NOT that bad.  Honestly, there really is no reason that a ship that's 2 tiers down can't find ways to be useful and at least moderately productive.

 

For example, I was in my New Mexico, a tier 6 BB that was fully upgraded in a tier 8 battle a couple of days back.  Did I complain?  No.  What I did was go out and do over 105k damage as a bottom tier ship, entirely against tier 8 and 7 ships.

 

Another example.  There was a recent post on the forum of a guy in a tier 8 North Carolina BB killing not one, but TWO Tier 10 Yamatos, doing something like 14 citadels over the course of the battle.  Now, if you watch the youtube of it in the post and read the posts, you'll see and read the the Yamato drivers made some terrible mistakes, showing their broadside to the NC who them blasted each of them with multiple citadels at very short range.  But still, the NC driver did it!  (Both of the Yammy drivers were afraid that the NC was trying to ram them and turned to try to evade him, thus exposing their side to him.)

 

The lesson here is that just because your bottom tier and 2 tiers below the top tier does not mean that you can't be productive.  You just have to learn the game, learn to your ships' strengths and weaknesses, learn to look for opportunities to take advantage of your strengths and do damage even when bottom tier.  And so on.   Being bottom tier does NOT mean that you are incapable of doing anything.

 

And as others have said, it was worse during beta and before when the spread was 3 tiers instead of 2.  But even then, I didn't despair.  I just kept looking for chances to be useful and productive.

 

 

 

You must be kidding..... You think an Omaha can be useful in a tier 7 match, unless the enemy is completely incompetent? Happens all the time, now with extra derpitzs...

Your whole opinion is based on one meaningless match where you actually had a ship that was able to compete with upper tiers, or at least take some damage before you die. MM is a joke, and will continue to be a joke as long as mm covers more than 2 tiers.....i.e. 3-4, 5-6,7-8,9-10

 

[BlazerSparta]

You must be kidding..... You think an Omaha can be useful in a tier 7 match, unless the enemy is completely incompetent? Happens all the time, now with extra derpitzs...

Your whole opinion is based on one meaningless match where you actually had a ship that was able to compete with upper tiers, or at least take some damage before you die. MM is a joke, and will continue to be a joke as long as mm covers more than 2 tiers.....i.e. 3-4, 5-6,7-8,9-10

 

Lots of incompetent T7s. I remember killing a Yorck in 2 salvoes from my Omaha while he launched torps at me (missed), and I remember taking out a full HP Pensacola in, again, Omaha, when I started that fight at half.

 

I would say I'm comfortable being bottom tier basically anything from T5 up, except perhaps Mutsuki. In fact, I prefer being bottom tier; higher payout that way.

[Crucis]

 

 

Crunch, it really is NOT that bad.  Honestly, there really is no reason that a ship that's 2 tiers down can't find ways to be useful and at least moderately productive.

 

For example, I was in my New Mexico, a tier 6 BB that was fully upgraded in a tier 8 battle a couple of days back.  Did I complain?  No.  What I did was go out and do over 105k damage as a bottom tier ship, entirely against tier 8 and 7 ships.

 

Another example.  There was a recent post on the forum of a guy in a tier 8 North Carolina BB killing not one, but TWO Tier 10 Yamatos, doing something like 14 citadels over the course of the battle.  Now, if you watch the youtube of it in the post and read the posts, you'll see and read the the Yamato drivers made some terrible mistakes, showing their broadside to the NC who them blasted each of them with multiple citadels at very short range.  But still, the NC driver did it!  (Both of the Yammy drivers were afraid that the NC was trying to ram them and turned to try to evade him, thus exposing their side to him.)

 

The lesson here is that just because your bottom tier and 2 tiers below the top tier does not mean that you can't be productive.  You just have to learn the game, learn to your ships' strengths and weaknesses, learn to look for opportunities to take advantage of your strengths and do damage even when bottom tier.  And so on.   Being bottom tier does NOT mean that you are incapable of doing anything.

 

And as others have said, it was worse during beta and before when the spread was 3 tiers instead of 2.  But even then, I didn't despair.  I just kept looking for chances to be useful and productive.

 

 

 

You must be kidding..... You think an Omaha can be useful in a tier 7 match, unless the enemy is completely incompetent? Happens all the time, now with extra derpitzs...

Your whole opinion is based on one meaningless match where you actually had a ship that was able to compete with upper tiers, or at least take some damage before you die. MM is a joke, and will continue to be a joke as long as mm covers more than 2 tiers.....i.e. 3-4, 5-6,7-8,9-10

 

 

 

No, my opinion is based on 2500+ battles in WoWS and 30 THOUSAND+ battles in WoT!  I know for a FACT that a ship (or tank) that's 2 tiers down can make useful contributions in a battle.    And what do you have?  All of 175 battles?  To me, your opinion on this is practically worthless. 

 

What your 175 battles tells me is that you don't KNOW how to be useful when 2 tiers down.  You probably just whine about it and go off and pout in the corner of the map.  Cry me a river.

 

And note that when I say "make useful contributions", I'm not meaning that you ought to be able to go out there and lead the team in damage or XP (though it is possible).  What I mean is that you find ways to help the team.   Capping or defending bases, providing some AA cover, securing (the ignorant player would call this "stealing") a kill or 2, or spamming HE at BB's are all useful things for a -2 tier ship to do.

 

Thinking that you can't be useful when you're 2 tiers down is the sure sign of a sub-par player.

 

 

 

 

[kapitalistas]

strait 2 MM broken battles. im was tier 3 and rest was IV-V.only me with tier 3.how about that.

[Merc85]

 

 

No, my opinion is based on 2500+ battles in WoWS and 30 THOUSAND+ battles in WoT!  I know for a FACT that a ship (or tank) that's 2 tiers down can make useful contributions in a battle.    And what do you have?  All of 175 battles?  To me, your opinion on this is practically worthless. 

 

What your 175 battles tells me is that you don't KNOW how to be useful when 2 tiers down.  You probably just whine about it and go off and pout in the corner of the map.  Cry me a river.

 

And note that when I say "make useful contributions", I'm not meaning that you ought to be able to go out there and lead the team in damage or XP (though it is possible).  What I mean is that you find ways to help the team.   Capping or defending bases, providing some AA cover, securing (the ignorant player would call this "stealing") a kill or 2, or spamming HE at BB's are all useful things for a -2 tier ship to do.

 

Thinking that you can't be useful when you're 2 tiers down is the sure sign of a sub-par player.

 

 

 

 

QFT      +1

[EvilZero]

 

For crying out loud, dude, your highest tier ship is only a tier 6 (a CV) and you only have 250 or so battles.  There's nothing wrong with the MM in the order of battle pic you posted.  Nothing at all.

 

Seriously, today I played my tier 6 BB New Mexico for yucks (I'm up to the tier 8 North Carolina, but kept the NewMex), ended up in a tier 8 battle, and did over 100k damage. Mostly to higher tier ships (pasted the holy living heII out of a Tirpitz* and rocked a Colorado's world too).  So don't tell me that bottom tier ships can't do well.  If you're bottom tier and you can't hack it, it's your fault most of the time.

 

 

* The Tirpitz in question made the dreadful error of running aground broadside to me when I was around 12-15km away (IIRC) for good plunging fire.  I just aimed right under his funnels and baba-BOOM ... a couple of citadels and a bunch of other solid hits. 

 

 

Going a little off topic of what my original post was about, but I don't know where you got your numbers. I have over 600 battles & several tier 6 & a few tier 7's. I was posting about how a statement was made in the patch notes & then was obviously not being used. It's the same as WoT but hey, it's easy to see who the fan boys/girls are as they're normally the first to try & make thing personal.