1,319 suleiman71 -Members- 6,960 posts 10,623 battles Report post #1 Posted December 4, 2015 So with 10T0nHammer and LittleWhiteMouse, I decided to experiment with DDs once more...I hard carried the FIRST match, and then we soft carried two more. I'm genuinely surprised I was able to achieve this. Wakatake and now Isokaze is a lot of fun...I might actually begin to invest in DDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
116 ConquerorSEA_2014 Alpha Tester 645 posts 696 battles Report post #2 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Warning:the higher tiers IJN DDs gameplay will be very hard due to long reload,longer torp detection range (meaning any competent player can easily dodge your torp) ,higher ship detection.I suggest you to stop at T5,Minekaze . Edited December 4, 2015 by ConquerorSEA_2014 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,319 suleiman71 -Members- 6,960 posts 10,623 battles Report post #3 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Warning:the higher tiers IJN DDs gameplay will be very hard due to long reload,longer torp detection range (meaning any competent player can easily dodge torp) ,higher ship detection.I suggest you to stop at T5,Minekaze . I'm stopping at Isokaze, Minekaze is no better than Isokaze on paper. Edited December 4, 2015 by ShermanMedium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
366 [KNTAI] Ms_Makawee Beta Testers 1,293 posts 12,480 battles Report post #4 Posted December 4, 2015 I play Nicholas for lots of fun! ...even if sometimes I don't do very well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
116 ConquerorSEA_2014 Alpha Tester 645 posts 696 battles Report post #5 Posted December 4, 2015 I'm stopping at Isokaze, Minekaze is no better than Isokaze on paper. Still a good choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
189 [RENB2] Hualalai Beta Testers 941 posts 8,624 battles Report post #6 Posted December 4, 2015 T6, Mut is ok. Not sneaky devil like Mine, Mut is long range sniper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
116 ConquerorSEA_2014 Alpha Tester 645 posts 696 battles Report post #7 Posted December 4, 2015 I play Nicholas for lots of fun! Even after it was nerfed,the Nicholas is still fun.I definitely prefer it over Gvney. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,319 suleiman71 -Members- 6,960 posts 10,623 battles Report post #8 Posted December 4, 2015 I liked Clemson far more than Nicholas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
366 [KNTAI] Ms_Makawee Beta Testers 1,293 posts 12,480 battles Report post #9 Posted December 4, 2015 I liked Clemson far more than Nicholas. Clemson's double guns are fun and I did well in it, but Nicholas is more visually appealing imo. Plus, Nicholas can be set up for wicked anti air for its tier... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #10 Posted December 4, 2015 I liked Clemson far more than Nicholas. but NICH guns are much better... lol Let me know when you get to Russian>... And the Mutsu and Hatsu are pretty fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
32 HaxfireMantle Beta Testers 284 posts 667 battles Report post #11 Posted December 4, 2015 Isokaze and Minekaze are both fantastic. Sadly unless torp detection gets nerfed at higher tiers I don't think I'll go much past them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #12 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Mutsuki is fine. I actually did better with mutsuki than minekaze. (slightly lower DMG though) What I am finding is that lot more people are investing in DD now. I was in my aurora, and there was 5 DD on other side (4x umikaze) 3 on our side. 3 guys with umikaze divisioned and they ofcourse won. I liked Wickes a lot for tier 3 USDD. and I am beginning to like ognevoi a lot too now. can't wait till i get kiev though. Edited December 4, 2015 by centarina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 sidicous Members 17 posts Report post #13 Posted December 4, 2015 Mutsuki is fine. I actually did better with mutsuki than minekaze. (slightly lower DMG though) What I am finding is that lot more people are investing in DD now. I was in my aurora, and there was 5 DD on other side (4x umikaze) 3 on our side. 3 guys with umikaze divisioned and they ofcourse won. I liked Wickes a lot for tier 3 USDD. and I am beginning to like ognevoi a lot too now. can't wait till i get kiev though. I see tons more DD around now. Was in a match earlier this week 14 total DD pretty evenly split tween the 2 sides and none divisioned together. Tier 2 and tier 3 not uncommon anymore to see 10 DD per match. Tier 4-5 regularly see 6-10 per match. Of course also get a few matches tier 5 that are 2-5 DD and 2 BB zero CV, all those cruisers then hurt when they touch me in places everywhere on the map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
114 [NDA] Wolff_Punisher Beta Testers 1,097 posts 11,257 battles Report post #14 Posted December 4, 2015 but NICH guns are much better... lol Let me know when you get to Russian>... And the Mutsu and Hatsu are pretty fun Wondering how you are having fun in the Hatsu , I myself an struggling with her. Not sure if it's the slower speed, rudder shift, soft module's or what. Just can't figure it out. Tips would be appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 BillBellamy Members 35 posts 324 battles Report post #15 Posted December 4, 2015 I really enjoy my Nicholas. But then again I've enjoyed every US DD so far except the Sampson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,728 [ABDA] crzyhawk Beta Testers 17,538 posts 12,810 battles Report post #16 Posted December 4, 2015 I enjoyed low tier DD's After my Minekaze though, I found that my skills were inadequate to play them effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
360 Rion12 Members 2,072 posts 2,712 battles Report post #17 Posted December 4, 2015 IJN DDs up to the Minekaze have been pretty fun, especially once I started getting a bit better at utilizing detection mechanics. Although...everything in the higher tiers, starting with the Mutsuki, looks....ergh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,153 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,228 battles Report post #18 Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Hatsu has been tough for me as well. Mutsu was fine. I think it is having slow [edited]torp that can be seen miles off don't help. I think I have like 3% torp hit rate as everyone can dodgea. my captain is not trained yet either and that sucks too. it is all about matchup though. if I get lower matchup, i can get a few hit, if I get lot of tier 8s, oh boy, they can all dodge those torps unless you can work with someone. and CV drivers are really good if they show up. Edited December 4, 2015 by centarina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
114 [NDA] Wolff_Punisher Beta Testers 1,097 posts 11,257 battles Report post #19 Posted December 4, 2015 I've found my better matches in the Hatsu when I'm teamed up with a friend of mine we've been able to sail our DD's in a tag team style. Alone I'm not seeing the support or teamwork, so I have issues being even remotely effective. I light up other DD's and the cruisers within 3km seem to ignore them. So for those out there that see me in the Hatsu not in a division, bare with me as I will still try the best I can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
285 SwirvinBirds Beta Testers 2,317 posts 5,939 battles Report post #20 Posted December 4, 2015 Wondering how you are having fun in the Hatsu , I myself an struggling with her. Not sure if it's the slower speed, rudder shift, soft module's or what. Just can't figure it out. Tips would be appreciated I think I do okay in mine. What works best for me is using my long range torps and stay out of detection range. If a US or RU DD is in the area they will eat you alive. Do not try to fight other DD's. Get out of there and find somewhere else to play. Teaming up with another DD is always a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #21 Posted December 4, 2015 You can play past Iso and have fun, just don't judge your play on damage dealt, use experience instead or winrate. With the change in how experience is earned you can have some really good games and not do a lot of damage, by capping or cap defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
207 Oberst1 Beta Testers 569 posts 3,165 battles Report post #22 Posted December 4, 2015 Welcome... To the Dark Side Japanese DD's are primarily Torpedo boats, target BB's and CA's and CV's, Also they are the best when it comes to detection concealment so scout in the very beginning. As others have said though, watch for the RU and US DD's their rate of fire with guns will destroy you quickly. That said, do give the RU and US DD's a try, in fact, try playing the RU dd's and practice making Torpedo runs using islands for cover (And I dont mean stopping behind an island and waiting for an enemy to pass by. What I mean is using islands between you and spotted enemy ships as you close range at full speed. It takes watching where the enemy ships are going and planning your route track toward them accordingly.) and really analyzing the map and directions enemy ships are taking, Playing the RU DD's and learning to play them well will make you a better DD player all around. I just came from a great game with my Gnevny Tier 5 Russian Destroyer... 109,000 damage total 34,000 from HE shells 66,000 from torps The rest split between fires and flooding. 7 torpedo hits, with around 80 shell hits 3 ships sunk A New York, Wyoming, and an Isokazi another 4 or 5 ships damaged I got 4 medals Confederate High Caliber 2 Devastating strikes. All the DD's in game are fun boats, they all take skill and play differently. Happy hunting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
258 sushimaster Members 1,383 posts 2,282 battles Report post #23 Posted December 4, 2015 I wouldn't call "invest in DD" if you're stopping at tier 4. At that tier, player can pretty much yolo and will still survive. Good for releasing steam after a bad day and just want to relax. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,593 [CRMSN] Cobraclutch Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,021 posts 4,739 battles Report post #24 Posted December 4, 2015 I'm stopping at Isokaze, Minekaze is no better than Isokaze on paper. I would strongly suggest moving up to high tiers. If not only for the purpose of improving your BB / CA gameplay. Being able to play the game as a higher tier DD greatly enhances other ships skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
169 [JEEP] tooboku [JEEP] Members 1,124 posts 9,109 battles Report post #25 Posted December 4, 2015 So with 10T0nHammer and LittleWhiteMouse, I decided to experiment with DDs once more...I hard carried the FIRST match, and then we soft carried two more. I'm genuinely surprised I was able to achieve this. Wakatake and now Isokaze is a lot of fun...I might actually begin to invest in DDs. If you really want to know what its like to carry a match, try ranked in Mutsuki... In tier IV down it's really every man for himself. tier V and up an experienced DD captain is the difference maker in a fleet that sails in straight lines and has a tendency to make bad tactical decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
