I want to get into a tier X battle

[HBZK100]

anybody willing to dividsion up with me if you have tier X? I want to try a tier X battle out in my Mahan and see how it goes. I've already been in several tier 9 battles.

[Compassghost]

It's basically T9 battles with more cowards.

[G0lfSierra1]

So youre asking someone to fail division with you on purpose just so you can see bigger ships? That ship is worthless in tier 9 and worse against tier 10s since everything will see you coming and out gun you in it. Just wait till you get your own tier 8 and you will see 10s a lot more than you want to anyway.

[HBZK100]

So youre asking someone to fail division with you on purpose just so you can see bigger ships? That ship is worthless in tier 9 and worse against tier 10s since everything will see you coming and out gun you in it. Just wait till you get your own tier 8 and you will see 10s a lot more than you want to anyway.

 

Ok. 

BTW...I don't understand what you mean by worthless. Because EVERY SINGLE tier 9 battle I was in, the team worked together and we won nearly consistently.

[QuantumEntropy]

It's basically T9 battles with more cowards.

 

You have my upvote sir

[G0lfSierra1]

 

Ok.

BTW...I don't understand what you mean by worthless. Because EVERY SINGLE tier 9 battle I was in, the team worked together and we won nearly consistently.

 

You've had 23 matches in it so far, that cant be very many and I know you did not carry a tier 9 game in a ship that is mediocre at best when its top tier. The Mahan is the last ship in that entire line that I would deliberately make myself bottom tier in. I play mine once or twice a session and that is all I can stand of it. The American tier 7's all seem to suck for some reason and this one is no exception.

[4wilds]

There is a reason why Tier 7 ships are separated from Tier 10 ships by MM.

[SumoWhirlwind]

 That ship is worthless in tier 9 and worse against tier 10s since everything will see you coming and out gun you in it.

 

The Mahan actually is capable of stealth-torping now, since it has the same torpedo range as Benson, so I doubt it's dramatically worse than having a Benson in a tier 10 game.

 

I'm not suggesting that it would be a good idea to drag it into a tier 10 game because it's definitely worse than Benson, but it shouldn't be as horrible as it would have been before the range buff.

[Fog_Cruiser_Chikuma]

I'd take an isokaze into tier10 anyday, or my grem

[G0lfSierra1]

 

The Mahan actually is capable of stealth-torping now, since it has the same torpedo range as Benson, so I doubt it's dramatically worse than having a Benson in a tier 10 game.

 

I'm not suggesting that it would be a good idea to drag it into a tier 10 game because it's definitely worse than Benson, but it shouldn't be as horrible as it would have been before the range buff.

 

True the torps have the range but are so slow that hitting anything requires more luck than skill unless the enemy is a guy in a Tirpitz whos only tier 8 is the Tirpitz. Most battleship drivers at tier 10 are impossible to hit with its torps due to the slow speed and the amount of damage they do, makes them not such a good idea if that enemy Yamato sees you before you launch or even after because his secondary guns will chew you up from 10K away.

[HBZK100]

So yeah. I'd like to go in because I want to see the ships.

 

[_Sarcasticat_]

I'd take an isokaze into tier10 anyday, or my grem

Oh yeah, all the damage would be hilarious.

 

 

All those slow, big, fat juicy tier 10 BBs...

[mau5trapX]

I'd take an isokaze into tier10 anyday, or my grem

 

I would be so up for taking an Isokaze to a tier 10 fight and likely racking up more kills than the rest of the team combined.   In fact, I wish you could use the Isokaze in ranked battles rather than the T5/6 ships.

 

[bad_arcade_kitty]

iso has just 6 weak torps per salvo which will be easily avoided by ships which can avoid 15 torp walls from shima (where each torp is like twice as stronger too) and also she has only slightly better concealment than shima with the concealment upgrade and basically the same as kangaroo with the same upgrade, meantime iso would be forced to get much nearer than the high tier dd since her torps have 7km range only, placing herself at a great risk to be spotted by planes or enemy dd

[DocVulcan]

Spotting is much better in T9-10 battles it seems (more spotting planes/etc.) and if you are that close (7km) to an enemy fleet at T9-10 you will not survive long.

Torps on those lower tier ships are much weaker as well, so they could take a torp or two on the nose and just run you down.

You will get a T8 soon enough Then you will see T10s, and after 20 games with T10s it will lose its shine.

 

[mau5trapX]

The Isokaze has 6.1k / 2.9k detection range.  Toss the 8K skin on there and it's down the 5.9k surface detection with 7k quick cycle torpedoes.  Sure, each torpedo will do less damage per warhead than the higher tier but the volume will overwhelm larger ships.  The key is to hit the enemy and then him them again quickly after they use the repair.  Flooding will do the majority of the damage while the enemy waits for their repair to cycle.

 

For comparison, the Shimakaze has a 7.6k / 4.2 detection range.   The Isokaze would see even the Shimakaze long before the larger DD even new the lower tier DD was in the area.   ;-)

 

For the record, I have T9 and T8 DDs in multiple nationalities but the economy is so broken at the higher tiers that unless MM gives me a semi-competent team, there is a high chance of losing money.  Just not worth the grief when a random teammate goes YOLO up the middle (actually saw that once from a CV no less).  Now if I could bring 5 or 6 friends along in a division I could count on...

 

[bad_arcade_kitty]

shimakaze also has the concealment mod with which her concealment is 6.8, that's without camo/captain skills

kagero with that mod has basically the same concealment as iso btw

[Spagz]

Tier 9/10 games in WoWS is equivalent to playing Battlefield 3/4 with campers in the very back spamming mortar shells.

[Camo68]

It's a nice thought...... but the issue is three fold, once lit up by planes, the Isokaze will be cannon fodder for 1) BB secondaries (their range is virtually the same as the torp range), 2) T10 cruisers which are almost as fast as you & 3) T10 destroyers which are faster and have very good fast firing guns.

 

And if you think that the enemy won't figure out your general direction from the torp angles and realise you're within 7-9kms and vector a search you are kidding yourself

 

That's leaving out the nasty surprise from DB's & TB's themselves.

[soulsedge]

It's basically T9 battles with more cowards.

 

lol yup +1