5.1 Dogfighting Expert Error or full [edited]Mode?

[TurboT]

Uhhhh... ok this 10%/100% thing is totally borked.

 

I Just played another Hak, with equal fighter 4/2/2 loadout.  My planes are upgraded, I have the 5th skill (extra fighter), and the plane survivability modules on. No way I get stomped that badly by a same tier CV unless the Captain skill is borked and he dropped them to the tier 9 planes on the Hak.  Badly meaning 54 kills for him to 14 for me.  My fighters melted all over the map, over friendly ships to boot.

My point being, if this skill is going to render my plane upgrade useless, I want the XP and the 2 million credits back and I will just run the tier 9 fighters on my Hak.

 

[shootieboats]

Yea, it's pretty well known that what was supposed to be a 10% buff is actually a 100% buff in-game. Tier 4 Langley fighters are wiping Tier 9 bombers in 3 seconds. And it was found on PTR, but they pushed it out like this anyway, apparently.

[TurboT]

Yea, it's pretty well known that what was supposed to be a 10% buff is actually a 100% buff in-game. Tier 4 Langley fighters are wiping Tier 9 bombers in 3 seconds. And it was found on PTR, but they pushed it out like this anyway, apparently.

 

LOL.. well thats f'n wargaming at its finest right there.

 

[Argh_My_Liver]

Not sure why but his response actually made me laugh. It's such an obvious issue that had been pointed out in PT and they are only going to "investigate" it now http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/35968-bug051-live-version-dogfight-skill-bug/page__p__663135#entry663135 

 

[TurboT]

Well.. just food for thought for everyone on a couple levels.  I just dropped the Hak down to the 'stock' tier 9 fighters.  Went into a game versus two Midway's with a Midway on our team as well.

Enemy team shoud've won they had three more tier 10s (2 Yamato's and Des Moines) where we had Iowa's and a Baltimore as a counter. 

 

Again, please note, these were the TIER 9 FIGHTERS on HAK. 

 

 

What I also found interesting was the XP.  I really didn't do much damage this game. Was too busy trying to kill DDs and managing my fighters to stop the Midway's damage potential, but 6000 (base 2000) for a x2 win doing less than 40K damage in a tier 10 CV is way better than it used to be, based on the fighter kills.  So, clearly there is something going on XP wise for plane kills which wasn't there before.

 

The fact that I can do this with my tier 9 fighters loaded is silly though.

 

[GeforceTesla]

I think it pretty much means they don't even play their own game.

 

 

It is set as 100%.

 

Was wondering how this thing get through the unit test? peer review? smoke test? The entire QA department? The test server?

 

Well I guess they don't really test their code.

[justsmith]

Is this bug just on the usa server or the others as well?

[DrunkenSailor63]

from my understanding, the planes are given their own "tiers" now, which are separate from the CV's tier.  Dogfighting expert uses these new "plane tiers"

 

If this is true, it is a fail.  I have this ability, and was in a battle with another Tier 5 Boque.  My fighter squadron against his.  I was annihilated.  We either should have had equal tiers...which would have yielded equal results, OR I was a tier below, and would have had the buff, which would have yielded equal results.  

 

Essentially, dogfighting in WoWS is still just a complete fail.  And it seems to be a fail by design, which is even worse.  Ships of different tiers can battle, and while the higher tier has an advantage, it isn't a complete wipeout.  I Tier 5 ship can fight in a Tier 6, 7, or 8 battle, and even get a kill during it.  Not so with planes.  Dogfighting seems to be as if the two squadrons are different by like 8 tiers every time.  That has to be by design, or they would have fixed it by now.  

I would love to know why they designed it that way.  Bad enough when it is the difference between US and Japanese planes, which render Japanese fighters nothing more than glorified scouts.  But based on this battle, the same thing happens even between planes from same nation, and same tier.

 

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- Yshoneist