29 Brutalus_Maximus Members 225 posts 791 battles Report post #1 Posted October 21, 2015 With the patch DB bomb dispersion is getting a buff. (How much?) Will it be enough to make to make Dive bombers viable? ATM I do not really see anyone talking about them other then as a VERY distant third place used mostly as a diversion /bait for enemy fighters or sometimes to get a fire to use up a Dmg control so the torpedo bomber gets his full flood dmg. So far it seems that if given a choice EVERYONE would rather replace their DB squads with a torpedo squads. When I see a DB squad heading towards my ship I pretty much do not care and just keep fighting the same as always. The bombs often miss and when they hit the dmg and sometimes fire seems inconsequential. However, when I see torpedo bombers flying at me I drop everything in a desperate attempt to to do everything I can to avoid the spread. Will this change? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [ITCHY] mrpape Beta Testers 22 posts 5,499 battles Report post #2 Posted October 21, 2015 I concur. I really hope it helps and the manual drops as well. MrP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13 [NSC] cdnice55 [NSC] Members 165 posts 4,356 battles Report post #3 Posted October 21, 2015 Are DB's not better used against DD's? I have yet to be plane torpedoed in a DD unless it has been from a really good CV driver using a cross drop on me, even then I have escaped by the skin of my teeth a couple of times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,211 10T0nHammer Members 7,307 posts 3,304 battles Report post #4 Posted October 21, 2015 Are DB's not better used against DD's? I have yet to be plane torpedoed in a DD unless it has been from a really good CV driver using a cross drop on me, even then I have escaped by the skin of my teeth a couple of times. On paper yes, but in practice, DDs are so mobile and small that hitting one is more luck than anything. Tho when you do get hit, it hurts lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
162 SG_ONeill Alpha Tester 922 posts 5,325 battles Report post #5 Posted October 22, 2015 I don't know about the rest of you but I've seen zero damage incaps on DDs when they get hit by DBs. It's already annoying when DBs don't hit their target, it's even more annoying when it does zero damage when it does. -.- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
712 Anumati Beta Testers 1,661 posts 7,501 battles Report post #6 Posted October 22, 2015 Lol. IJN are getting the real buff. Their DBs are going to be more accurate than US DBs. US DBs will just have less a penalty when under the effects of barrage or being attacked by fighters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 Brutalus_Maximus Members 225 posts 791 battles Report post #7 Posted October 22, 2015 Lol. IJN are getting the real buff. Their DBs are going to be more accurate than US DBs. US DBs will just have less a penalty when under the effects of barrage or being attacked by fighters. "U.S. dive bombers will be more stable while taking anti-aircraft fire, with a decreased bomb spread, while their Japanese counterparts will have increased precision for manual release. Japanese torpedo bombers will now inflict less damage at lower tiers." Pretty sure dive bombers are always taking anti-air fire unless vs a ship without AA so this is pretty much a straight buff. Just a question of how much it is? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 zcv45 Members 88 posts 2,703 battles Report post #8 Posted October 25, 2015 Are DB's not better used against DD's? I have yet to be plane torpedoed in a DD unless it has been from a really good CV driver using a cross drop on me, even then I have escaped by the skin of my teeth a couple of times. Coming from a CV player here. Whenever I send my 2 IJN DB squadrons to attack DDs, they usually come back with no hits whatsoever, It may seem so due to it being harder to dodge but the DD is so small you don't need to. I only landed a hit on a DD twice with DBs in my WHOLE entire experience in WoWS. It doesn't help when you have to pray to RNGesus to get 2 hits from 8 planes attacking a BB. A BATTLESHIP. As for a cross-drop or anvil-attack, it's almost always effective. In fact I feel like it's the most efficient way of targeting DDs. There are other variations but are more complex. If you time your anvil-attack perfectly or almost perfectly, there is no way to escape. You can only avoid them if one squadron was slow in dropping it. And by slow, I mean that one set of torps is in the water while the 2nd squadron is still trying to get in position. If dropped in the same time, there is no where you can turn. Thankfully, unlike RL, it is easier to coordinate an attack like this in game. Only once did a DD escape my anvil attack, and that was because I didn't coordinate it well enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 zcv45 Members 88 posts 2,703 battles Report post #9 Posted October 25, 2015 "U.S. dive bombers will be more stable while taking anti-aircraft fire, with a decreased bomb spread, while their Japanese counterparts will have increased precision for manual release. Japanese torpedo bombers will now inflict less damage at lower tiers." Pretty sure dive bombers are always taking anti-air fire unless vs a ship without AA so this is pretty much a straight buff. Just a question of how much it is? I don't think a lot of people use manual on dive bombing. And with IJN torpedoes nerf at low tiers? They already do less damage than US, for whatever the reason. IJN even with aerial torpedoes had a larger warhead, though not by a lot. In fact the only version with a smaller warhead than the Mk.13 was the rev.3 I feel like this is more nerf on IJN then it is a buff. Also planes only get larger spread from AA barrage skills from cruisers and scout planes. So if you are attacking a lone BB with no scout around, you won't get any buff. But not like a reduced spread from AA is going to help, DBs won't get any hits unless they are not under barrage.... They have really low chance of hit to start with, so any type of decrease from it's base accuracy is going to make them miss completely. Only IJN DB buff can be said to be actively useful but I don't think a lot of people bother with manual DB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites