3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #1 Posted October 11, 2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,929 _Sarcasticat_ Beta Testers 19,049 posts 8,134 battles Report post #2 Posted October 11, 2015 You have 3 Tirpitz!!11!! I'm sure you won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #3 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) You have 3 Tirpitz!!11!! I'm sure you won. It was close but in the end we only sunk one of the cruisers and then all died terrible horrible fiery wet destructive no good very bad deaths.... Edited October 11, 2015 by slak96u Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,929 _Sarcasticat_ Beta Testers 19,049 posts 8,134 battles Report post #4 Posted October 11, 2015 It was close but in the end we only sunk one of the cruisers and the rest of us all died terrible horrible fiery wet destructive no good very bad deaths.... Oh. Okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #5 Posted October 11, 2015 Oh. Okay. Uhh. Yup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,440 Sirus_Patton Members 3,243 posts 1,579 battles Report post #6 Posted October 11, 2015 Honestly, you'd get the same thing without divisions. That's the failure of the MM to pull the un-divisioned Yamato from the other team and replace it with the un-divisioned Tirpitz on your team while throwing said Tirpitz onto the enemy team. Other than that, it's not too terribly bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 obiwanorktobi Members 11 posts 913 battles Report post #7 Posted October 11, 2015 MM has been broken for the Tirpitz for..ever? I don't know we just got them and although I only have tier 6 ships normally I do not understand the structure of the matchmaking going on. I never went for world of airplanes at all just tanks and have a lot of them. I get the nasty feeling by cruising the tirpy I am playing against scarred veterans and they often support that theory by administering beatings. IT is early on the other hand and all things will work out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
74 alanbay Beta Testers 499 posts 36,024 battles Report post #8 Posted October 11, 2015 I can see the reason why you lost. that's why I like playing the lower tier battles better. they are so much fun, and less vulgar and insulting players too. I just wish there were some way you could have ranked battles at low tier but you cant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #9 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Honestly, you'd get the same thing without divisions. That's the failure of the MM to pull the un-divisioned Yamato from the other team and replace it with the un-divisioned Tirpitz on your team while throwing said Tirpitz onto the enemy team. Other than that, it's not too terribly bad. It wasn't terribly bad, just kinda bad as the T10 team destroyed the T8 moving target squad quickly enough that I didn't have to wait around long to jump right back in my Amagi. Edited October 11, 2015 by slak96u Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,199 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,013 battles Report post #10 Posted October 11, 2015 When my side have tier one's (1) and tier two's (2) in a tier 4 ,5, 6 Battles I refuse to participate and I just leave the battle and start over again ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
287 TASK_FORCE_16 Members 701 posts 3,457 battles Report post #11 Posted October 11, 2015 MM has been broken for the Tirpitz for..ever? I don't know we just got them and although I only have tier 6 ships normally I do not understand the structure of the matchmaking going on. I never went for world of airplanes at all just tanks and have a lot of them. I get the nasty feeling by cruising the tirpy I am playing against scarred veterans and they often support that theory by administering beatings. IT is early on the other hand and all things will work out? nothing to do with the tirpitz.... its a tier X issue, there arent enough players with tier X... so they wait the 5min then MM has to chunk together a match for them... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,471 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,610 posts 7,430 battles Report post #12 Posted October 11, 2015 Part of the reason my love for this game is diminishing rapidly...they claim to fix things but in reality they stay the same if not worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
185 [AK] Nicoli_Voldkif Beta Testers 532 posts 11,316 battles Report post #13 Posted October 11, 2015 Honestly, you'd get the same thing without divisions. That's the failure of the MM to pull the un-divisioned Yamato from the other team and replace it with the un-divisioned Tirpitz on your team while throwing said Tirpitz onto the enemy team. Other than that, it's not too terribly bad. Or put the yamato-zao team swapped with the tirpitz and one of the cruisers. MM seems to have an issue with putting all of a ship class on one side. I don't think it has the WoT system where if there is two ships of the same type it puts them on opposite teams if there isn't a division involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
433 StooperDave Alpha Tester 1,997 posts 2,336 battles Report post #14 Posted October 11, 2015 LOL! looks fair to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,471 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,610 posts 7,430 battles Report post #15 Posted October 11, 2015 The MM is always smoking the crack rocks...stacks all the X's on one side.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
891 [BONKY] Merc85 Beta Testers 2,456 posts 39,407 battles Report post #16 Posted October 11, 2015 nothing to do with the tirpitz.... its a tier X issue, there arent enough players with tier X... so they wait the 5min then MM has to chunk together a match for them... It has nothing to do with Xs either. This match could have been made hugely more even with a reasonable MM regardless of the divisions, Tirpi, or Xs. It's the inane MM algorithm that is the issue. It's very easy to balance Xs and total tiers with these ships and divisions.....it sure seems based upon the matches I've seen that the MM is programmed to keep X BBs on the same side for some reason. Just trade division 2 from the right side team for one BB and one cruiser from the left side team and all is equal and very balanced. It seems that the WG MM is actually programmed to make sure this doesn't happen since by doing this trade total tiers would be equal and total Xs would be equal. Why would the MM be programmed any different than this? But it is.....lunacy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #17 Posted October 12, 2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,471 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,610 posts 7,430 battles Report post #18 Posted October 12, 2015 Yeeeeeeeah.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
170 OneTonGun Beta Testers 447 posts 6,131 battles Report post #19 Posted October 12, 2015 As bad as this one seems, its not that uncommon. This is why I completely stopped playing Tier X. If you want to ridiculously pad your stats, just run an all Tier X division because MM wont match you up with any real competition. MM all too often decides who wins at Tier X. The most playable games are in the 6-7 range. You still get shiptards on your team but its not as bad as the low tiers and the MM is smoother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
38 AegisFCS Beta Testers 180 posts 2,572 battles Report post #20 Posted October 12, 2015 Yeah I was happy when I first got my tier X. That faded fast with the long waits for small battles where CVs and DDs can run the game unchecked without ever being detected due to the lack of players. I find myself trying to do the Ranger grind atm with 2 fighters and 2 bombers. It is rough but steady. Kongo is for fun at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
194 BadNews420 Members 555 posts 11,596 battles Report post #21 Posted October 12, 2015 Tirpitz need a buff, we had no chance in this game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,454 battles Report post #22 Posted October 12, 2015 Actually had a fail division match the other day where we had 1 X vs 4X. That was a huge pinata for us when we won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
386 [O7] Zampy Beta Testers 1,804 posts 12,331 battles Report post #23 Posted October 12, 2015 When my side have tier one's (1) and tier two's (2) in a tier 4 ,5, 6 Battles I refuse to participate and I just leave the battle and start over again ...... You aren't helping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
261 [EGI] Swine_007 [EGI] Beta Testers 1,243 posts 33,291 battles Report post #24 Posted October 12, 2015 Tirpitz need a buff, we had no chance in this game That's just ugly. You would think though that the MM algorithm could manage to see it would be more balanced if the 2nd division on the right was line for line swapped with the left. Swapping the Benson / Yamato for the NC and Mogami would make the total tiers each side closer and might have evened out the match a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
762 IceSerpen7 Members 3,959 posts 7,738 battles Report post #25 Posted October 12, 2015 When my side have tier one's (1) and tier two's (2) in a tier 4 ,5, 6 Battles I refuse to participate and I just leave the battle and start over again ...... You aren't helping Folks who bring a T1 into a T4 match are beyond help... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
