7 alexc123 Members 156 posts 3,377 battles Report post #1 Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) If you where going to buy one of these ships which one is better for those who have played both, with the special you get some extra with the Atlanta but I care more about which ship is better . Also my next ship is the Cleveland, I know there diff, buT would it make sence to spend $50 on the Atlanta when I'm 12k exp away from the Cleveland? Edited October 9, 2015 by alexc123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
853 Xero_Snake Members 5,165 posts 60 battles Report post #2 Posted October 9, 2015 This again? I saw the same thread a few weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
541 Killer1941 Beta Testers 1,620 posts 1,238 battles Report post #3 Posted October 9, 2015 Never played Atlanta so I will just mention Atago. Atago is fast but turns like a BB, slim but long, lots of HP but big citadels, torpedoes are great and have a good firing arc, AA isn't much, guns turn fast and are accurate but they have a lowish ROF compared to other IJN CAs. Overall she is pretty good but if you reveal your broadside you will get citadeled often, so it is a gamble when you shoot your torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
203 [O_B_G] Carl_the_Cuttlefish Alpha Tester 737 posts 6,077 battles Report post #4 Posted October 9, 2015 Never played Atlanta so I will just mention Atago. Atago is fast but turns like a BB, slim but long, lots of HP but big citadels, torpedoes are great and have a good firing arc, AA isn't much, guns turn fast and are accurate but they have a lowish ROF compared to other IJN CAs. Overall she is pretty good but if you reveal your broadside you will get citadeled often, so it is a gamble when you shoot your torps. Like a mega Furutaka then? I really want this ship but I'm not going to pay that kind of dough for it. Too expensive. Atlanta looks really fun too though. The other thing in question is they might make an Atago or Atlanta similar ship as they release more tech tree lines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
573 [SOGGY] Fleet_Admiral_Kolchak Alpha Tester 2,599 posts 5,205 battles Report post #5 Posted October 9, 2015 Depends mate. I own both and enjoy both for different reasons. As far as a balanced vessel that will serve you well the Atago will be a superb fit. She has the perfect balance of armor, guns, speed and customization. The Atlanta is a very good if not best support ship for AA defense and Destroyer screening. Keep in mind you only have 5" guns which are only good for being a flamethrower on bigger ships and wasting DD's with AP. They are pretty limited in range though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
493 [KVLT] Zhoyzu [KVLT] Members 2,307 posts 9,146 battles Report post #6 Posted October 9, 2015 Having Both, The atlanta is a paper thin flame thrower. Once you get in range your enemy will probably die. Its essentially an oversized USN DD long lead time on the shots high arc. You can basically shoot over every island in the game (not really but hopefully you get what im saying) Its a great BB killer as it just burns and whittles them down to nothing. and its great for killing DD. IT has the short range torps of a USN DD that do work if people get to close (like the pesky DD). The atago plays like an over sized DD (such as hit and run predator hunting) while it hits like a truck and can really do some dmg to other cruisers. Its great at killing DD and those 10KM torps with great angles ( as opposed to the IJN norm for the 2 rear angle torp mounts) much flatter arc high velocity. I personally prefer the Atago as i feel its a bit more versatille and can fill more roles than the atlanta. Both are REALLY fun to play and earn really well. Just be careful of your IJN citadels. Even with them the atlanta still feels much squishier. If you enjoy the Myoko youll love the Atago. If you loved the cleveland (just be prepared to be squishier , your turrets fail alot. you will not make it to the end of a match with all 8 still operable) youll love the Atlanta. Hope this was insightful. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
449 Flagship_Amagi Members, Alpha Tester 5,596 posts 628 battles Report post #7 Posted October 9, 2015 i love the atlanta the only problems with it though are turrets made of paper and the fact that the max range you might get from your guns is like 10.8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
493 [KVLT] Zhoyzu [KVLT] Members 2,307 posts 9,146 battles Report post #8 Posted October 9, 2015 i love the atlanta the only problems with it though are turrets made of paper and the fact that the max range you might get from your guns is like 10.8 I get 14. something with captain skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
286 [-B-Z-] Bravo_Zulu_000 Alpha Tester 715 posts 4,225 battles Report post #9 Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) I have both: Atlanta - has 11km range with guns and no captain perks but fires so rapidly you can set fires again and again. Has very little armour and guns can tend to get knocked out, but you have 14 guns firing on target so losing a few doesn't make a huge difference. Need to play it for anti-DD and AA coverage for BB's and then move to targets otherwise engaged with your team mates. Aklso has a higher arc of fire so aiming needs adjustment. Very fun to play especially hosing enemies as you're firing your next volley while the previous shells are still travelling to target. Atago - Typical IJN cruiser. Good guns and torps but has a huge citadel and is easily damaged there. Overall a good balanced ship. If you want a unique and different ship, the Atlanta will fit that bill. If you want something that plays similar to other ships in a nation's tree, than the Atago is a better fit. Edited October 9, 2015 by Bravo_Zulu_000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #10 Posted October 9, 2015 I get 14. something with captain skills. 13.5~13.6km The only thing is, it's like a 12s flight time at that range, which means plenty of time to dodge, even in the slowest of BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
74 PPH402 Alpha Tester 697 posts 8,544 battles Report post #11 Posted October 9, 2015 I have both. If I could only keep one I'd choose the Atago. It's a personal preference. I like bigger, harder hitting, longer ranged guns. That and the torps are a lot better. The Atlanta is a lot of fun though. If you can get close to a IJN CA that has its broadside to you and you switch to AP you can get a million citadel hits. They don't do much, but you know the other guy is getting that awful tinnitus inducing screech over and over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
32 [NGA-A] Jagd_Adler Members 99 posts 7,721 battles Report post #12 Posted October 9, 2015 13.5~13.6km The only thing is, it's like a 12s flight time at that range, which means plenty of time to dodge, even in the slowest of BBs. using your Jedi mental powers by anticipating your targets movement and taping down the left mouse button, your stream of destruction will melt them away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #13 Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) using your Jedi mental powers by anticipating your targets movement and taping down the left mouse button, your stream of destruction will melt them away IMO, you have to catch them heading towards you when you are hidden behind an island for that to happen. So not going to happen if they are sailing with their broadside exposed to you, since they will just turn and sail away. And, ideally, you don't even want to engage at maximum range, because they will just turn around and go in the opposite direction. You want, at least, 2km under your max range before you start the HE spam so they can't run away without taking much damage. Edited October 9, 2015 by MrDeaf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,720 Eisennagel Beta Testers 11,688 posts Report post #14 Posted October 9, 2015 I had a close range duel with an Atlanta from a Myoko. He had me burning but he took two citadels from me and died. I would go with the Atago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,629 Super_Dreadnought Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 14,008 posts 5,814 battles Report post #15 Posted October 9, 2015 Dunno about Atlanta, but Atago is a very comfortable and balanced ship to use imho. She is remarkable for being unremarkable, the everyman cruiser, the steady workhorse of the fleet. She is the jack of all trades, that excels at absolutely nothing and yet is 'good enough' at everything that I at least never feel hampered or frustrated by some standout weakness like I sometimes do with the speed and sluggish turret traverse of Warspite. Can Atago hunt down destroyers? Sure. Other cruisers may be able to kill them faster, but Atago can do it fine and I've dispatched my fair share of tin cans. Can she go toe to toe with a battleship? About as well as any other cruiser I guess. Atago might be one of the better cruisers to take them on thanks to her torpedo forward firing arcs. Can she work as an AA escort? To an extent. Atago won't shoot down many planes, but if you need to disrupt a TB attack in a pinch she can do a bit of that. Is she mobile? Other cruisers may have smaller turning circles, but Atago moves well enough to get you across the map. You sensing a pattern here yet? She also plays very similarly to the main branch IJN heavy cruisers so she's a especially good trainer for IJN CA captains. And damn she looks sexy as hell. I fully recommend getting one if you play the IJN. Solid ship, I've no regrets about buying Atago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,720 Eisennagel Beta Testers 11,688 posts Report post #16 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Yeah. That's another problem with the Atlanta. Its way off the US cruiser meta from Tier 7 and above, while the Atago is consistent to it. Using the Atago only trains your own habits and reflexes to be consistent with the rest of the IJN heavy cruiser meta --- which breeds its results. The Atlanta on the other hand, can derail your senses and timing when you switch from it to a Pensacola or New Orleans. I find myself overcompensating, for example, when I go from my Cleveland to my IJN heavy cruisers. The US line needs a more generic, less eccentric, cruiser premium on Tier 7 or 8, that is more consistent to the meta. I suggest either a Northampton or Portland class on Tier 7, then maybe a USS Wichita at Tier 8. Edited October 10, 2015 by Eisennagel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 alexc123 Members 156 posts 3,377 battles Report post #17 Posted October 10, 2015 I have both. If I could only keep one I'd choose the Atago. It's a personal preference. I like bigger, harder hitting, longer ranged guns. That and the torps are a lot better. The Atlanta is a lot of fun though. If you can get close to a IJN CA that has its broadside to you and you switch to AP you can get a million citadel hits. They don't do much, but you know the other guy is getting that awful tinnitus inducing screech over and over again. I am just wondering with the Atlanta being on sale with some extras and to get those extras on the Atago it would cost around $9-10 more, with that in mind which one would you get Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 alexc123 Members 156 posts 3,377 battles Report post #18 Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) I am just wondering with the Atlanta being on sale with some extras and to get those extras on the Atago it would cost around $9-10 more, with that in mind which one would you get Anyone? Edited October 10, 2015 by alexc123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #19 Posted October 10, 2015 I had a close range duel with an Atlanta from a Myoko. He had me burning but he took two citadels from me and died. I would go with the Atago. When in my Atlanta, I've brawled against other Atlantas, Atagos, Myokos, Pensacolas, New Orleans and Clevelands at sub... 7~8km range, and the one thing that truly allows me to win in those situations is angles and AP. Well, okay, I haven't really been able to win against a Cleveland or New Orleans, since 5" shells don't seem like they are able to land citadels against their broadsided armor, but against the IJN cruisers and lighter armor USN cruisers, sub 7~8km is plenty close to land those multi-citadel salvos, if they are exposing their broadside. If they angle even a bit, forget AP, since all of it bounces. I have won in these brawls with my Atlanta, even 2v1, but I am usually never in a good shape afterwards. Missing 3~5 turrets, <15% HP... or basically heavily damaged, to the point of being useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites