1,199 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,013 battles Report post #1 Posted October 8, 2015 This can possibly work , What if they add 3 BOT subs on each side for 15 against 15 ,to increase the challenge which would also make the Destroyers even more valuable in play, because now they would be needed to track down and destroy enemy Bot submarines and not just screen friendly ships and launching torpedo's at enemy ships. Hell this could work and make this game complete . In WOWPs they are using BOTs planes against human players . So this should be able to work here in WOWS, which would add a lot of life and spice to this already great Naval game . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 anonym_gcj8DfBzuWqN Members 231 posts Report post #2 Posted October 8, 2015 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22 JoeErving Members 220 posts 2,385 battles Report post #3 Posted October 8, 2015 Well if they ever did implement Subs, I have no idea why you would want AI subs. If they are going to be in they should be Player controlled like everything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
937 [WOLFB] Lonewolfpj Members 3,212 posts Report post #4 Posted October 8, 2015 NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
64 [CLAND] Vladimir__Poutine Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 102 posts 5,232 battles Report post #5 Posted October 8, 2015 This can possibly work , What if they add 3 BOT subs on each side for 15 against 15 ,to increase the challenge which would also make the Destroyers even more valuable in play, because now they would be needed to track down and destroy enemy Bot submarines and not just screen friendly ships and launching torpedo's at enemy ships. Hell this could work and make this game complete . In WOWPs they are using BOTs planes against human players . So this should be able to work here in WOWS, which would add a lot of life and spice to this already great Naval game . Bot subs? No subs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33 NomaeTheJester Members 168 posts 874 battles Report post #6 Posted October 8, 2015 People have explained time and time again that it is impossible to balance submarines. Making them bots solves this problem a little tiny bit, by allowing you to ignore the play experience of the sub captain. But if the subs are effective, there will be so much rage and unfunness, and if the subs aren't effective then you basically just added nothing to the game, also not fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
269 Merlox Members 832 posts 5,277 battles Report post #7 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Right now from what I've been seeing. The Devs were adamantly against subs, but recently they have been changed their views to always be open, They are not prepared to say "Never" More news on this. https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/3gcsm3/submarines_now_being_considered_for_world_of/ Though, While DDs would be very important, Could you imagine matches with out DDs? It's like playing minesweeper. Them SS would move only like 7 or 8 knots under water. Would obviously have to balance them to be only 1 or 2 SS max per team. Edited October 8, 2015 by Merlox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
770 [TXGUN] donaldEpott [TXGUN] Members 4,596 posts 13,562 battles Report post #8 Posted October 8, 2015 This can possibly work , What if they add 3 BOT subs on each side for 15 against 15 ,to increase the challenge which would also make the Destroyers even more valuable in play, because now they would be needed to track down and destroy enemy Bot submarines and not just screen friendly ships and launching torpedo's at enemy ships. Hell this could work and make this game complete . In WOWPs they are using BOTs planes against human players . So this should be able to work here in WOWS, which would add a lot of life and spice to this already great Naval game . Whats the point for those of us who want to play the submarines? I want to be able to play them as well as hunt them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
573 [SOGGY] Fleet_Admiral_Kolchak Alpha Tester 2,599 posts 5,205 battles Report post #9 Posted October 8, 2015 I guess I have to post the obligatory video: 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
551 NargilFenris Alpha Tester 1,586 posts 957 battles Report post #10 Posted October 8, 2015 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,693 [FOXEH] BladedPheonix Alpha Tester 6,885 posts 22,238 battles Report post #11 Posted October 8, 2015 For the love of..... when will these idiots learn what the word "NO" means! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
139 [OJITT] Hereticus2142 Beta Testers 521 posts 3,221 battles Report post #12 Posted October 8, 2015 Once more, into the Maelstrom of battle! Wargaming has claimed that the question about Submarines is the #1 most popular question they receive, proving there's a healthy sized communtiy who want to play Submarines in WoWs. The traditional response on Submarines have been the classic "No Submarines" video and the in general WoWs FAQ http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/76-faq/ I would however like to point out that Wargaming has revised there stance on Submarines from "No, never" to "Not right now, probably later". July Famitsu Interview with WoWs Director Ivan Moroz, In it he talks about wanting Submarines. http://www.famitsu.com/news/201507/09082751.html Aug Gamescom Rita Blog Report about the devs having a interest in Submarines. http://ritastatusreport.blogspot.com/2015/08/more-gamescom-q.html WoWs Employee replys through Reddit about Gamescom outrage on Submarines, reminding everyone that Wargaming is only exploring options, that no actual development is being done on Submarines. Wargamings #Sail to Twitchcon w/ Braincage, 37:55:00 Wargaming gives IMO there most elaborate answer about Submarines I've heard yet. Again covering that Wargaming wants to do Submarines, They talk about it often, But again there is no development atm, This leaves the window of opportunity open for the future. http://www.twitch.tv/wargaming/v/11726469 Ocean Steel, the WoWs clone has working Submarines to inspire healthy competition out of WoWs. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBxIbh1mugTl2gdczwYNznQ/videos I'm in favor of Submarines if only for the diversity of targets and strategies to keep a match interesting. But reality is that in the games current state, It just isn't feasible. I would venture a guess that maybe 2 years down the line (at minimum) we might see something practical for Submarines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
770 [TXGUN] donaldEpott [TXGUN] Members 4,596 posts 13,562 battles Report post #13 Posted October 8, 2015 For the love of..... when will these idiots learn what the word "NO" means! When it becomes a Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
42 Johnsonian Beta Testers 148 posts 1,717 battles Report post #14 Posted October 8, 2015 Just stop already, youre not getting any points for creating yet another troll thread about subs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
285 SwirvinBirds Beta Testers 2,317 posts 5,939 battles Report post #15 Posted October 8, 2015 Game engine ixnays subs for any immediate future alone...water has no depth, yet alone gameplay issues that would have to be solved 1st. So don't hold your breath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,199 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,013 battles Report post #16 Posted October 8, 2015 Just stop already, youre not getting any points for creating yet another troll thread about subs. I do not see this as a Troll thread what I said makes sense even if it's only one (1) Bot sub it spices up the game allowing the Destroyers and the players more challenges . Hell maybe they can allow a player to control 3 subs like the CV players do with their aircraft. It could work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 HARDCORE_BR Members 646 posts 4,235 battles Report post #17 Posted October 8, 2015 If there is a way to ruin this game , is through submarines. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,199 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,013 battles Report post #18 Posted October 8, 2015 If there is a way to ruin this game , is through submarines. The way this game will be ruined is through the same old repetitious Battles day in and day out with no goals since you have all the tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,450 battles Report post #19 Posted October 8, 2015 Guess who broke their waves mod today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
285 SwirvinBirds Beta Testers 2,317 posts 5,939 battles Report post #20 Posted October 8, 2015 I do not see this as a Troll thread what I said makes sense even if it's only one (1) Bot sub it spices up the game allowing the Destroyers and the players more challenges . Hell maybe they can allow a player to control 3 subs like the CV players do with their aircraft. It could work. why don't you just download a RTS wargame? Why change this into one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
350 [GROGS] RobertViktor68 Beta Testers 1,197 posts 16,102 battles Report post #21 Posted October 8, 2015 no thanks OP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,108 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #22 Posted October 8, 2015 Well if they ever did implement Subs, I have no idea why you would want AI subs. because the AI is known to love to target allies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
573 [SOGGY] Fleet_Admiral_Kolchak Alpha Tester 2,599 posts 5,205 battles Report post #23 Posted October 8, 2015 The way this game will be ruined is through the same old repetitious Battles day in and day out with no goals since you have all the tiers. If you think its repetitious go for it. However Submarines have no point and no value in the game. Submarines are a terrible idea for those reasons already listed with respect to their own performance. Also are you seriously telling me Destroyers and Light Cruisers in pub games will sub hunt to protect Battleships and Carriers? That is a joke good sir. The reality of the situation is that subs would sneak up behind BB and CV's and pop them with literally no defense since players in public game typically do not support each other or act in a fleet capacity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
285 SwirvinBirds Beta Testers 2,317 posts 5,939 battles Report post #24 Posted October 8, 2015 The way this game will be ruined is through the same old repetitious Battles day in and day out with no goals since you have all the tiers. It's worked and going strong for years with WoT. If you already have all the top tiers already you spent way too much money on this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,199 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,013 battles Report post #25 Posted October 8, 2015 It's worked and going strong for years with WoT. If you already have all the top tiers already you spent way too much money on this game. Who are you to judge me and tell me that I spent too much already? I worked for it and I'll spend as I see fit to spend , just watch your own money ! I see you have no imagination as far as subs , that can be Implemented into this game. Guess you're just a narrow minded person! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites