clearly I'm doing something wrong.

[Malkor86]

I see people on youtube WITHOUT premium making 3,000+ experience per battle. meanwhile i have premium and I'm barely making 400 xp per battle. if WG thinks I'm going to sit here and grind out 78,000 XP to get to the next tier  at 200-300 xp per round they've lost their god damn minds. I've looked up all the guides that tell you what ammo to use against what ships, i've watched class how to's, I've tried every class. No matter what ship i play, no mater how many players i kill, no matter how much damage i do, no matter how many points i capture it is an act of god for me to get more than 700 xp per round. I paid for premium to avoid this, and it still sucks. I'm afraid of how bad my xp will be without premium. 50 experience per round perhaps? I'm this close to just uninstalling. I understand they don't want people in tier X overnight but this is ridiculous. What am i doing so horribly wrong?

 

http://worldofwarships.com/en/community/accounts/1008682784-Malkor86/#tab=pvp/account-tab-detail-stats-pvp

[WootArmA]

I think you get the most XP for doing damage.

 

I read on this forum somewhere that the XP for capping is bugged for Domination so you might not be getting anything for it or very little.

 

Looking at your account the only thing I can think is maybe your damage output is to low? 15k a game seems low but you play DDs and I usually don't, they are more hit-n-miss games for me; either I'll dominate or get rekt right out of the gate.

 

Maybe the Youtube people have 1.5/2/3x XP bonuses for dailies?  The XP in Closed Beta/Alpha was much higher I believe too so the videos may be old?

 

3k sounds normal for me on a 1.5x + Premium + solid match of hitting.  Maybe a tad high for lower tiers for a normal good game.

[DannyS76]

I felt that way a couple days ago, I'm still not great, but i'm winning now. I never considered uninstalling though. Play your ships at range even if that means you may be late to the party. Also, know what your ranges are on torps and main guns and don't exceed them, ie....don't launch torps when 10km away if they are 5.5km torps. Don' come into range of your guns, stay on edge and fight from there if you are a cruiser or BB. Don't give up man. It's fun. Also, I swear, but I never use GD. Please stop? Good hunting and good luck.

[Gration]

you are probably still not doing something quite right. on a win i normaly get base between 1k-2k on a really good game i have gotten as much as 3k base. on a loss the high end for me is about 1k. but consecutively only getting 700exp that's a little low. also, also remember if someone is posting a video on youtube and you see them getting 3k exp a game. they are not posting there video where they get torped 2 min in the game and only make 100 exp. on youtube you are seeing people at there best. 

 

as far a getting exp yourself, you get the most exp for doing damage not necessarily sinking. also, it varies on they tear of ship you are aiming at. if you do more damage to a higher tear ship than you. you generate more exp then killing lower tear ships. if you want some time we can div together and i can maybe throw some pointers after seeing how you play. i may be no expert but i don't think i qualify as a scrub ether. shoot me a message if you want to take me up on that.

[Gun4Hire]

one thing that stands out is your survival rate is super low.  That in turn causes you to have a low avg damage, and damage is what gets you xp.  I'm probably an avg DD capt, but my minikaze damage stat is twice yours, and my survival rate is also almost twice as high.  It seems you may be going out to aggressively to try and get the first couple of strikes in, but then you pay the price with a quick death.  Maybe slow down a bit, don't be as aggressive and always be thinking about an escape route.  For your IJN DD's, stealth is life. Make sure you have your detectability and torp ranges memorized and plan attacks where you'll not be spotted.  For your other ships, make sure you are not alone, always be with a group.

[Malkor86]

you are probably still not doing something quite right. on a win i normaly get base between 1k-2k on a really good game i have gotten as much as 3k base. on a loss the high end for me is about 1k. but consecutively only getting 700exp that's a little low. also, also remember if someone is posting a video on youtube and you see them getting 3k exp a game. they are not posting there video where they get torped 2 min in the game and only make 100 exp. on youtube you are seeing people at there best. 

 

as far a getting exp yourself, you get the most exp for doing damage not necessarily sinking. also, it varies on they tear of ship you are aiming at. if you do more damage to a higher tear ship than you. you generate more exp then killing lower tear ships. if you want some time we can div together and i can maybe throw some pointers after seeing how you play. i may be no expert but i don't think i qualify as a scrub ether. shoot me a message if you want to take me up on that.

 

just sent you a PM

[Mayhem1]

I see people on youtube WITHOUT premium making 3,000+ experience per battle.

This wont happen every time they drop. I can see it on their 1.5, but not in normal battles. Im always suspect of the sheet I see on youtube. 

[kjarri]

Youtubers might also be using the 50%exp flags so don't go by their score, go by the base exp people earn in your match. Without premium you should be getting 700 on a mediocre match and 1500+ on a good match. With premium that means about 1k for mediocre and 2000+ on a good match. From what I see, your average damage is kind of on the low side so that's where you are being held back. Majority of exp is from damage dealt (sinking ships count as 15% damage so a nice little bonus). Work on your survivability and getting that damage up if you want to advance past tier 4 or 5. The longer you survive, the more damage you can deal.

[alexf24]

Don't go by YouTube. Sure, most of the content creators have been at the game for a while and know what they are doing, but also remember they only show a small portion of their games. Which few? You guessed it.

 

I you want to see how good they are, check their stats. Yes, I am impressed by some like Notser or iChase. Excellent videos and excellent stats. I only wish I could do half as good. That said, I know I am improving, and my stats are slowly creeping up. I am still barely average but as long as I have fun, all is well.

 

As said, you get credits and XP (base XP, before any flags, or multipliers) by doing damage. The more damage the better. Capping, killing planes, or even having kills do not matter much. If you take out a full BB in a higher tier than yours, you get a ton of it. If you just give him the coup -de-grace, the last shot that kills him, you get the kill, but the damage you inflicted was close to minimal, and so is the XP you get. The guy that softened for you to 1% health, got all the XP.

 

[Molotok_Yaniye]

one thing that stands out is your survival rate is super low.  That in turn causes you to have a low avg damage, and damage is what gets you xp.  I'm probably an avg DD capt, but my minikaze damage stat is twice yours, and my survival rate is also almost twice as high.  It seems you may be going out to aggressively to try and get the first couple of strikes in, but then you pay the price with a quick death.  Maybe slow down a bit, don't be as aggressive and always be thinking about an escape route.  For your IJN DD's, stealth is life. Make sure you have your detectability and torp ranges memorized and plan attacks where you'll not be spotted.  For your other ships, make sure you are not alone, always be with a group.

 

^This.  DDs take a lot of skill (not accusing you of anything here).  You might want to switch to Cruisers as your main for a while until you get a real handle on the mechanics (fragile CLs need to get good at maneuvering, as well as DDs).  Once you start to live longer, you'll do more damage.

[NomaeTheJester]

As others have noted, your survival rate and average damage are low. In your cruisers and DDs you need to make yourself get shot less.

             In your IJN destroyers, make use of your maximum torp range. If someone is sailing towards you, you can even torp outside your max range, because they will sail into your torpedoes. Remember that the best targets are BBs that are already engaged and firing at a target. Above all, DO NOT fire your guns in your IJN DDs, unless you are spotted anyway and you know you will be spotted for a while (example: USN DD has managed to close within 6km of you, and you have no smoke. Then go ahead and try to shoot him). Firing your guns will make you spot-able from a much longer range, and will likely not do much damage. This effect lasts for 20s, so even  if you are hidden when you fire (in smoke for example), if you sail out of the smoke within 20s people will see you.

            In your cruisers try to always keep an ally (not a DD) between you and the enemy. This automatically makes you a lower priority target for the enemy. As you get better at this, pick allies that can take the hits. This is how you support a BB with your cruiser. Let him get shot while you augment his firepower. Bonus points for firing at the same target he is, focusing fire is a good thing and your higher rate of fire gives you a better chance at getting the kill. As you advance the tiers you will also be able to protect your meatshield BB from planes, because you will have effective AA that reaches out to 5km.

 

TL,DR: Become a lower priority target in your DDs by never getting spotted. Only fire your DD's guns in emergencies. Become a lower priority target in your cruisers by staying in the middle of the pack, always have juicier allies around you.

[tomplum]

I've only been playing a couple weeks but I'd say surviving to do more damage is key.  don't go running off like Rambo to kill everyone yourself.  Try to stay with at least one other ship at all times.  especially if your playing destroyer, let the enemy engage some of the bigger ships and then you can sneak in and get them.  Pick your spots.

[99Scout]

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[StooperDave]

Checked out your stats. It looks like you are doing something right because you're not looking bad at all. Perhaps you need a bit more practice with aiming to get that overall hit rate up. north of 30% is a good hit rate to shoot for. Exp is primarily a function of damage, so focus on maximizing your damage that you inflict on the enemy. Don't tunnel vision on one enemy and shoot it till its dead, look around to see if someone else is giving you a better target. many times you can catch cruisers with their pants down by switching targets like that, and get some monster citadels. boosting your damage will naturally raise your K/D and W/L ratios, as there is less work for the rest of your team to do to win when you take a nice chunk out of the enemy HP pool for them. All these things will result in more exp and credits per match for you 

 

Edit: forgot to add that different classes have different earning abilities. For instance in a cruiser you have to work extra hard to make the same score as a BB gets just from getting a couple lucky citadel hits. Also, i notice you like DDs, Which is fine. But they are often a feast or famine class, You either get epic torp hits and rake in the damage and experience. or everything misses and you get blown up with only 200 damage done. Keep that in mind when examining your after battle scores. 

[Lion_1962]

Hello All,

 

This is my first post on the forum and I am celebrating with a beer

First of all you are not doing anything wrong. You need to practice that's it.

I am a noob how most of you will see if you look at my statistics. The thing is that something is weird in the game specially after the upgrade - at least this is my noob opinion. Yesterday I was playing one or 2 games with all my ships till I had a victory. Today nothing, no matter what ship I was using I was sunk and my team lost. Either the enemy team became super good or I became a blind idiot. I was myself on the point to uninstall the game

From 30 something% victories droped to 20 something % victories. So I had my butt kicked big time. How to pass over this, simple, close the game, take some beer and watch a stupid show on tv. Honest in my noobness I do not understand how using the same hardware same aiming method I was not able to do anything today. Can some of the more experienced players enlighten me? With respect, a noob.

[PepperMill]

My understanding is that you get rewarded according the percentage damage you do to a ship.   If you hit a DD for 2k it's a larger percentage of his HP than if you hit a BB for 2k.

This will also be beneficial to your win rate as by shooting lower HP ships you have a better chance to remove them from the battle.   Less guns shooting at you is always good.

 

tl,dr; shoot DDs and then other low HP targets for more XP.

[Desuma2k]

one thing that stands out is your survival rate is super low.  That in turn causes you to have a low avg damage, and damage is what gets you xp.  I'm probably an avg DD capt, but my minikaze damage stat is twice yours, and my survival rate is also almost twice as high.  It seems you may be going out to aggressively to try and get the first couple of strikes in, but then you pay the price with a quick death.  Maybe slow down a bit, don't be as aggressive and always be thinking about an escape route.  For your IJN DD's, stealth is life. Make sure you have your detectability and torp ranges memorized and plan attacks where you'll not be spotted.  For your other ships, make sure you are not alone, always be with a group.

 

 

 

 

I think this nails it. I am also an avg DD capt, i ahve 22 b attles vs Gun4Hire's 122 in the T5 IJN DD and he is about 10k damage per battle over me. THis comes down to greater survivability and accuracy with his torpedoes.

 

 

I have started focusing more on detection and sniping rather than all or nothing death runs to try and get my torps on target.

Also stay away from T+1 crusiers, gun speed and traverse speed improves with level and they will stich you up.

There is a great DD guide check that out too.