519 BossmanSlim Members 1,549 posts 5,319 battles Report post #1 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Took a look at the data for NA from warship stats. Looking at the average number of games in the grindable ships, it shows pretty well what lines and ships people like and don't like. Data is tier 4 and up. USN BB IJN BB USN DD IJN DD USN CV IJN CV USN CA IJN CA 10 57 78 41 73 74 70 40 61 % Tier 92% 126% 66% 118% 120% 113% 65% 99% 9 73 58 69 62 78 75 51 48 % Tier 114% 90% 107% 96% 121% 117% 79% 75% 8 62 64 56 62 58 66 49 64 % Tier 103% 106% 93% 103% 96% 110% 81% 106% 7 51 52 42 46 51 51 44 48 % Tier 106% 108% 87% 96% 106% 106% 91% 100% 6 53 46 38 39 38 39 57 38 % Tier 122% 106% 87% 90% 87% 90% 131% 87% 5 36 37 33 45 30 29 38 29 % Tier 104% 107% 95% 130% 87% 84% 110% 84% 4 27 24 22 23 20 18 22 24 % Tier 120% 107% 98% 102% 89% 80% 98% 107% Tree Av 109% 107% 91% 105% 101% 100% 94% 94% Conclusions: The most popular tier 10 ship is the Yamato The least popular tier 10 ship is the Des Moines The most popular line for people to play is USN BB The least popular line for people to play is USN DD Top 4 lines are USN BB, IJN BB, IJN DD, USN CV Popular ships (120%+): Yamato, New Mexico, Minekaze, Midway, Cleveland Least liked ships (85%-): Des Moines, Ibuki, Baltimore, New Orleans, Furutaka , Hosho, Langley USN CA drops like a rock once you get past the Cleveland, going from the most popular class at its tree, to the least popular. USN and IJN CVs start off slow and pick up as they get further down the line, with the tier 7s being the first ships above the average USN DD is poor throughout other than the Fletcher Looking at tier 8+, cruisers are the least played on average Edited October 7, 2015 by BossmanSlim 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,045 dmckay Members 4,729 posts 8,265 battles Report post #2 Posted October 7, 2015 Good info and interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,104 [WOLF1] paradat Beta Testers 16,643 posts 24,301 battles Report post #3 Posted October 7, 2015 Yeah that looks about right. Looks like that sites stats are getting more accurate for the population at large. Still a bit off but getting better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
188 [JEDI-] MikeCMyers Beta Testers 511 posts 5,068 battles Report post #4 Posted October 7, 2015 I'm pretty much only playing my Iowa and Tirpitz right now. Have enough XP to get Montana but I'm not really too interested in getting wtfpwned by Yamatos all the time due to the Tier 10 BB balance being totally out of whack. Yamato eats Montanas all day, I really hope something is adjusted soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,693 [FOXEH] BladedPheonix Alpha Tester 6,885 posts 22,208 battles Report post #5 Posted October 7, 2015 I find that strange, I'd assumed that the tier 10 IJN shimikaze would have been the number 1 tier 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
399 Scotty_SE Beta Testers 1,313 posts 12,709 battles Report post #6 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Possible the population at tier 9 and 10 is just too low yet to be an accurate sample. Curious if stats are different for other servers. ???? Shows the problems with specific ships, and higher tier meta in general. Pretty much world of BBs and Midways in 9 and 10. Edited October 7, 2015 by Scotty_SE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,126 [VNGRD] Shadowrigger1 Members 4,533 posts 18,759 battles Report post #7 Posted October 7, 2015 Anything above T7 is nothing more than sit back and snipe. if your ship can't shoot 20KM or more, you are useless in the fight. If you advance you get focused, if you sit back you get nothing. Why play ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
74 PPH402 Alpha Tester 697 posts 8,544 battles Report post #8 Posted October 7, 2015 Des Moines surprised me. I had one back in CBT. It was like a gamma irradiated Atlanta on steroids. I liked it. Did they nerf the gun arc and AA ability on it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,471 [SALVO] Dr_Venture Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 6,610 posts 7,430 battles Report post #9 Posted October 7, 2015 Tirpitz is where the "party" is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
519 BossmanSlim Members 1,549 posts 5,319 battles Report post #10 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) EU USN BB IJN BB USN DD IJN DD USN CV IJN CV USN CA IJN CA 10 53 68 55 78 97 84 40 60 % Tier 79% 102% 82% 117% 145% 126% 60% 90% 9 72 71 76 74 86 81 56 59 % Tier 100% 99% 106% 103% 120% 113% 78% 82% 8 65 64 60 65 59 64 49 65 % Tier 106% 104% 98% 106% 96% 104% 80% 106% 7 50 51 41 45 51 52 42 47 % Tier 106% 108% 87% 95% 108% 110% 89% 99% 6 48 46 34 38 38 38 52 38 % Tier 116% 111% 82% 92% 92% 92% 125% 92% 5 34 36 30 43 29 30 36 30 % Tier 101% 107% 90% 128% 87% 90% 107% 90% 4 27 25 19 22 19 18 21 23 % Tier 124% 115% 87% 101% 87% 83% 97% 106% 105% 107% 90% 106% 105% 102% 91% 95% The most popular tier 10 ship is the Midway The least popular tier 10 ship is the Des Moines - same as NA The most popular line for people to play is IJN DD The least popular line for people to play is USN DD - same as NA Top 4 lines are USN BB, IJN BB, IJN DD, USN CV - same as NA Popular ships (120%+): MIdway, Hakuryu, Essex, Cleveland, Minekaze, Wyoming Least liked ships (85%-): Des Moines, Montana, Gearing, Baltimore, Ibuki, Farragut, Hosho Russian Data (small data set): RU USN BB IJN BB USN DD IJN DD USN CV IJN CV USN CA IJN CA 10 57 73 38 51 102 92 38 97 % Tier 83% 107% 55% 74% 149% 134% 55% 142% 9 74 71 83 37 60 66 49 57 % Tier 119% 114% 134% 60% 97% 106% 79% 92% 8 64 60 44 49 59 60 47 61 % Tier 115% 108% 79% 88% 106% 108% 85% 110% 7 50 46 33 40 47 46 42 48 % Tier 114% 105% 75% 91% 107% 105% 95% 109% 6 46 49 31 34 36 43 54 39 % Tier 111% 118% 75% 82% 87% 104% 130% 94% 5 31 36 29 45 28 35 42 29 % Tier 90% 105% 84% 131% 81% 102% 122% 84% 4 24 24 20 23 19 19 21 24 % Tier 110% 110% 92% 106% 87% 87% 97% 110% 106% 110% 85% 90% 102% 107% 95% 106% The most popular tier 10 ship is the Midway - same as EU The least popular tier 10 ship is the Des Moines, tied with Benson - same as NA & EU The most popular line for people to play is IJN BB The least popular line for people to play is USN DD - same as NA & EU Top 4 lines are USN BB, IJN BB, IJN DD, USN CV - same as NA & EU Popular ships (120%+): MIdway, Hakuryu, Fletcher, Cleveland, Minekaze, Omaha Least liked ships (85%-): Des Moines, Montana, Gearing, Shimikaze, Kagero, Baltimore, New Orleans, Benson, Mahan, Farragut, Nicholas, Bogue, Furutaka, Mutisuki If you look across all 3 data sets Most popular ships for their tier: Midway > Cleveland > Minekaze Least popular ships for their tier: Des Moines < Baltimore < Farragut Lines most to least popular: IJN BB > USN BB > USN CV > IJN CV > IJN DD > IJN CA > USN CA > USN DD Edited October 7, 2015 by BossmanSlim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,451 [SYN] Kuckoo Members 6,112 posts 14,378 battles Report post #11 Posted October 7, 2015 Conclusions: The least popular line for people to play is USN DD USN DD is poor throughout other than the Fletcher My favorite line to play so far. People really don't know what they are missing, lol. I've only gotten to tier VI (Farragut) and found the line very enjoyable, the more so the higher up the tree. I thought it would peak at the Nicholas, but as productive as the Nicholas was, I've found even more success and enjoyment with the Farragut. I honestly don't know why, I've just been able to consistently make it work. Definitely requires a patient and opportunistic playstyle, tho. Good poast, btw. Very informative. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
59 Molotok_Yaniye Beta Testers 333 posts 936 battles Report post #12 Posted October 7, 2015 The line I currently play the most is US BBs, followed by US Cruisers. Okay, those are currently the only two lines I'm pursuing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest 0 posts Report post #13 Posted October 7, 2015 Very interesting, most seems about right when trying to guess what the community will do with this game and its trees. Farrugat :3...how interesting such a ship would be so disliked in some areas, I enjoyed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
519 BossmanSlim Members 1,549 posts 5,319 battles Report post #14 Posted October 7, 2015 Interesting thing about the two new lines being added, they should be in the bottom half. Russian DDs play more like USN DDs and German cruisers are, well, cruisers. Though if you look at the meta the data supports, long range engagements (BB & CV) or stealth engagements (IJN DD), they might do well as German cruisers have range and Russian destroyers can fire while concealed currently, while both have shell trajectories that support that style of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
297 [H0PAS] TangledThorns Members 760 posts 15,638 battles Report post #15 Posted October 7, 2015 Interesting as it seems USN DDs are popular. As for the Yamato being the most popular tier 10, duh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
399 Scotty_SE Beta Testers 1,313 posts 12,709 battles Report post #16 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) This worries me that the inclusion of Russian DD's and their proposed strength of being able to dish out deck fire while cloaked *might* be a supposed counter to the obvious top heavy BB Meta of higher tiers. {shudders coldy} Given how fast I beat down a Roon last night in my Mogami don't expect the German cruisers to change things much. Edited October 7, 2015 by Scotty_SE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6 DarkLanceAR Beta Testers 57 posts 5,127 battles Report post #17 Posted October 7, 2015 Pensacola, apparently I'm the guy with most battles in it in the NA server. Most people hate it but I find it amazing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
130 [DARTH] Korval_BB55 Members 555 posts 16,174 battles Report post #18 Posted October 8, 2015 And here I went and got myself a Des Moines. What was I thinking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites