I think I found out why people don't like the Colorado...

[draftstone]

Just got that ship. Played 2 games so far. Both of them, Tier 9 games.

 

Finished first of the team in both games, average of 64k damage, couple citadels, but we got steamrolled twice because our team tried to snipe while the other team was pushing forward objectives, so 2 defeats.

 

In those 2 games, the other team had no Colorado, so my guess is Wargaming rigged the matchmaking to give bad teams to Colorado players since it is a super powerful ship to balance it out!

 

/sarcasm off

So far, sure I only played 2 games, but I don't think it is as bad a ship as people say it is. Sure, if I show my broadside to an Iowa at 9 kms, I get destroyed, but you're not suposed to do that in any Battleship. I can easily go 1 on 1 with T7/T8 cruisers, can hold my own against other BBs, and Torpedoes seems to do less damage to the Colorado then the New Mexico (Torpedo Bulge?).

 

I'll see in the future if it holds, but I am the type of BB player that likes to get up close and personal with the enemy, and I think the Colorado could suit that style of play!

 

 

[Xenomancers]

You are correct - it is not a bad ship. It is more a victim of a meta that doesn't want to get close because reasons.

[DopamineCircuit]

I only ever go up against the Colorodo when I'm in my T5's....

 

I know it's gotta be random coinkidink..but... :*(

[Rabbican]

Colorado has a solid place in ranked matches it's like the game is built for them. Enemy teams start of close to each other and capture points entice brawling. Sub 8km you can reliably one salvo any broadside cruiser your dispersion is decent sub 11km.

 

Random battles are just painful we you are so slow, outranged, and out tiered.

[Xenomancers]

Colorado has a solid place in ranked matches it's like the game is built for them. Enemy teams start of close to each other and capture points entice brawling. Sub 8km you can reliably one salvo any broadside cruiser your dispersion is decent sub 11km.

 

Random battles are just painful we you are so slow, outranged, and out tiered.

People always complain about being out tiered in Colorado. However, Your armor is better than NC or Amagi and your guns can pen both of them - it's really not that bad for Colorado. I won many duels with NC and Amagi in Colorado. It's not like it can't hang. I mean NC has it much worse vs Iowa and Iowa has it much worse vs Yamato IMO.

[Rabe]

I find the CO to be a fat pig that can't shoot in randoms. But I agree with Rabbican it definitely shines in ranked matches.

 

Play it like an American BB should be played, and it will respond with high scores. 

 

(point at enemy, close distance, shoot at water line, don't show your broadside)

[draftstone]

I find the CO to be a fat pig that can't shoot in randoms. But I agree with Rabbican it definitely shines in ranked matches.

 

Play it like an American BB should be played, and it will respond with high scores. 

 

(point at enemy, close distance, shoot at water line, don't show your broadside)

 

Yeah that's my playstyle usually. The issue in random battles is that the cruisers that are suposed to cover you for DDs simply stay really far away and target BBs since they can't target DDs at 15km away....

 

So far, New York/New Mexico, if I have a cruiser with me not afraid to get closer, or if it's a game with low number of destroyers, I get really good games, but it is very dependant on the support I get from team. If team stays back and snipe, either I go up and get targeted by DD non-stop which forces me to manoeuver and expose my broadside and die or stay back and be mostly useless.

 

[Flinch]

i've been in sooo many randoms where my team has sat back and sniped or changed direction and let the enemy team chase them and generally we lost everytime cruisers and dd's snipe battleships were made to brawl.

[IronWolfV]

People always complain about being out tiered in Colorado. However, Your armor is better than NC or Amagi and your guns can pen both of them - it's really not that bad for Colorado. I won many duels with NC and Amagi in Colorado. It's not like it can't hang. I mean NC has it much worse vs Iowa and Iowa has it much worse vs Yamato IMO.

 

But on the flip side, the HP is barely better than a NY. Which is highly irritating.

[Nittany_Lion]

My only dislike is that it's too slow.  In a group you cant keep up with most other ships.

[Deterrumeversor]

In my experience with the Colorado, I hated it stock.

It deserves every bit of it's bad reputation stock, it is a very tough grind at first, but when you get the "B" hull it starts to hold it's own and with the "C" hull it really starts to shine.

Plus with the recent minor buffs to the Colorado it really helps the ship survive in a brawl.

And yeah, it is a brawling ship, with low HP, but the armor can be pretty trollish if used right.

It is a tough learning curve, going from NM to Colorado is kind of like going from the Kuma to the Furutaka...

 

 

[JoeErving]

People always complain about being out tiered in Colorado. However, Your armor is better than NC or Amagi and your guns can pen both of them - it's really not that bad for Colorado. I won many duels with NC and Amagi in Colorado. It's not like it can't hang. I mean NC has it much worse vs Iowa and Iowa has it much worse vs Yamato IMO.

 

Player ability once your past/in T7 has more to do with it than the ship most of the time.

I took 60k off a Yamato in my Iowa last night and he could not get me past half health...

You winning some NC vs Colorado duels is more to your being skilled than the colorado really having the upper hand.

 

Other than the Amagi (too squishy)  I do not shy away from taking on a Yamato in any of the T8+ BBs.

 

Relizing what angle to be at and having good position can make a world of difference.  Those are things that only a skilled Captain brings to the table and not all T8+ Captains are skilled 

[USMC2145]

I love the Colorado. Now that i have played it enough and got its play style down i am norm 1-3 on score at end of game and more than not number one. It took a bit of learning but the Colorado is a beast when played right. I will be keeping the Colorado for sure. I am real close to getting the NC, but i even after i do i will still go back and play the Colorado. I have even gotten to like the Colorado over the New Mexico. I hated it at first, but like i said once fully upgraded and you learn how to play it..... IT IS A BEAST!!!!!!

 

[Xenomancers]

 

Player ability once your past/in T7 has more to do with it than the ship most of the time.

I took 60k off a Yamato in my Iowa last night and he could not get me past half health...

You winning some NC vs Colorado duels is more to your being skilled than the colorado really having the upper hand.

 

Other than the Amagi (too squishy)  I do not shy away from taking on a Yamato in any of the T8+ BBs.

 

Relizing what angle to be at and having good position can make a world of difference.  Those are things that only a skilled Captain brings to the table and not all T8+ Captains are skilled 

 

I think being the underdog helps here. In a real BB duel I am determined to sink my target. If it looks bad - I'm gonna ram them. Most t-8 BB are real embarrassed to get rammed by a colorado so they end up turning away usually - then you get the sweet 2km shots at flat armor...GG NC.

[IronWolfV]

I love the Colorado. Now that i have played it enough and got its play style down i am norm 1-3 on score at end of game and more than not number one. It took a bit of learning but the Colorado is a beast when played right. I will be keeping the Colorado for sure. I am real close to getting the NC, but i even after i do i will still go back and play the Colorado. I have even gotten to like the Colorado over the New Mexico. I hated it at first, but like i said once fully upgraded and you learn how to play it..... IT IS A BEAST!!!!!!

 

Sure now it is post buff, but CBT it was a freaking joke. Especially after US BBs got their turn radius and rudder shift times nerfed because CV skippers cried bloody murder.

 

Now that it's been fixed some, she's a decent ship. Still needs about 8,000 HP added if you ask me. And the WV hull.

[MnemonScarlet]

You are correct - it is not a bad ship. It is more a victim of a meta that doesn't want to get close because reasons.

 

When I see a Colorado in my group with Fuso, I usually try to lead in for him and give him time to close the range, then turn away. What's bizarre is a good number of those Colorados don't take the cue and close...they keep trying to snipe at ranges that don't favor their guns.

[KurganSPK]

you should have played it when it saw t10s....

 

[Xenomancers]

 

When I see a Colorado in my group with Fuso, I usually try to lead in for him and give him time to close the range, then turn away. What's bizarre is a good number of those Colorados don't take the cue and close...they keep trying to snipe at ranges that don't favor their guns.

It's frustrating for sure. Maybe he was scared of Tirpitz or was his first coupe of games on the ship.

[Scotty_SE]

At first I didn't notice it, but now while grinding through my Nagato I'm now noticing Colorado's are hitting me far more frequently with critical shots than they did, so the last round of buffs seems to have helped a bunch. The Nagato is still the better sniper, but the Colorado can clearly hold it's own in mid range brawls and are pretty tough if he angles right. 

 

Achilles heel still seems to be that napalm impregnated armor that can't take HE fire. 

 

I rarely see tier 9 in my Nagato, and get a fair mix of tier 7 and 8 battles. With all those Clevelands and New Mexicos in the population MM goes accordingly. I assume the OP will have this experience as well. Tier 8 and 9 cruisers will be punished accordingly if they show a broadside to a tier 7 BB, but tier 9 BBs will more quickly punish you back.

[ap77_1]

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I'm tempted somewhat to repurchase the Colorado after the latest round of buffs.  I just couldn't stand the combination of slowness + inaccuracy before.  I can deal with one, but not so much both.  The really slow speed would still grind on me though - you end up being alone in higher tier matches just because you can't keep up (and nobody is waiting around for a Colorado).  

[HazeGrayUnderway]

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I'm tempted somewhat to repurchase the Colorado after the latest round of buffs.  I just couldn't stand the combination of slowness + inaccuracy before.  I can deal with one, but not so much both.  The really slow speed would still grind on me though - you end up being alone in higher tier matches just because you can't keep up (and nobody is waiting around for a Colorado).  

 

Spend your Credits again if you want.  Those issues are still the same on the Colorado.  After the patch that people say "Colorado is better now" or some crap, I face them in battle and I don't notice anything better about them.

 

I have such total disregard for the Colorado that I'll shoot at anything else than her because they're a bigger threat at Tier VII+ gameplay than Colorado.

[Big_Spud]

Colorado is only a good ship when captained by someone who really, REALLY knows what they're doing, in addition to having a sprinkling of amazing luck.

 

Then again, you could stick that same person in a Fuso, Nagato, or Warspite and still perform better than the Colorado.

[SpeedingBus]

 

Spend your Credits again if you want.  Those issues are still the same on the Colorado.  After the patch that people say "Colorado is better now" or some crap, I face them in battle and I don't notice anything better about them.

 

I have such total disregard for the Colorado that I'll shoot at anything else than her because they're a bigger threat at Tier VII+ gameplay than Colorado.

All WG did was buff turret traverse speed and ROF to 2.0 if I remember correctly. Yep the Colorado is always going to mediocre at her current tier with gimped HP and her terrible dispersion with so few guns. 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

All WG did was buff turret traverse speed and ROF to 2.0 if I remember correctly. Yep the Colorado is always going to mediocre at her current tier with gimped HP and her terrible dispersion with so few guns. 

 

That patch had people going, "Colorado is more accurate now!" or whatever.  I didn't see it in the patch notes but game developers have been known to stuff in undocumented changes.  So I took it at face value and was genuinely happy for the USN BB captains still working on her or kept her.

 

But after playing matches facing off against them, I noticed nothing special.  As long as I'm not an idiot presenting a perfect broadside for a Colorado to shoot at, I have nothing to fear from them.  I'll shoot at anything else because they're a bigger danger than Colorado.  I've often kept the ship pointed at the Colorado but turrets aimed at something else more dangerous.  Then I'll turn my attention to Colorado if there's nothing else to worry about.

[Lord_Zath]

I just got my Colorado.  What are the recommended upgrades?  I heard that the range upgrade increases dispersion across the board, so I'm considering getting the 20% secondary range boost instead...