That GD manual torp drop!!! How to avoid it?

[Watch_Me_Work]

Time for a little rant! Chasing a DD in my Omaha, and I am just about to finish him off when...all of the sudden I see a squad of torp bombers coming for me! I try to maneuver to a position so that I can dodge the inevitable torp spread headed my way but to no avail! The CV captain just does a manual drop and two of the torps hit me, killing me, and costing my team the game!  I know the BBs have it worse, but how in the world do you defend against a manual torp drop at tier 5 with no AA?!?  Anyway thanks for listening, and I appreciate any tips!

[Doutech]

Umm turn. You got tunnel visioned and your window of opportunity to evade to torp drop was missed. If the planes are less that 2km away from you and you are just starting to evade, then chances of successfully evading the drop are slim.

[LordCommanderMilitant]

be ready to move before the planes are coming. The Omaha has a plane it can launch to **** with the torp planes, as well.

 

I don't usually get killed by manual drop CV planes. I mostly get done in by sustained fire from the enemy fleet.

[hipcanuck]

Easy if they are IJN CV torps unless its 2 squads of bombers in anvil and hammer attack, difficult if its US TB.

 

Hate to say it, but you suffered from tunnel vision. You had your eye on the jaw of your opponent and missed seeing the uppercut coming. Learn from it like the rest of us....because we've all been there lol

[suleiman71]

This is a good time to learn something. Tunnel visioning is the #1 source of "CVs are OP!!" complaints. I'd start evading and changing speeds when they are at 5-6km away if you are at tier 5. Annoy the CV captain, if he gets his drop in, you better be manuvering already.

[VTAdmiral]

this thread will attract "Remove manual drop" saber-rattlers.

 

To which I respond: Without it, how will CVs hit anything? Auto-drop is a guaranteed miss to any ship captain that has eyes.

 

The counter to manual dropped torpedoes is to pay attention to your surroundings and turn into or away from them when they get within about 6km of you (further for BBs), especially if they appear to be closing on you.

[MnemonScarlet]

If you saw them coming from a ways away then the CV driver was just good or lucky. Or maybe you got boxed in by islands or something. If not...then paying attention is the great equalizer.

[Naughtius_Maximus]

Time for a little rant! Chasing a DD in my Omaha, and I am just about to finish him off when...all of the sudden I see a squad of torp bombers coming for me! I try to maneuver to a position so that I can dodge the inevitable torp spread headed my way but to no avail! The CV captain just does a manual drop and two of the torps hit me, killing me, and costing my team the game!  I know the BBs have it worse, but how in the world do you defend against a manual torp drop at tier 5 with no AA?!?  Anyway thanks for listening, and I appreciate any tips!

 

You dodged 4 out of 6. Pretty good considering you only started when you realized they were too close.

[MrDeaf]

IMO, there is an issue with the visibility of airplanes. They seem to only be detected under 6.5km and they can spot further than that.

 

At 6.5km, and however fast they are traveling, it is impossible to turn away or into them with a slow BB, like new mexico, when they catch you broadside.

[VTAdmiral]

IMO, there is an issue with the visibility of airplanes. They seem to only be detected under 6.5km and they can spot further than that.

 

At 6.5km, and however fast they are traveling, it is impossible to turn away or into them with a slow BB, like new mexico, when they catch you broadside.

 

I see them from 10-20km away depending on team arrangement, are you even looking?

 

Planes are not hard to spot at all.

[SPACEDUDE71]

The bb i don torp has a cruiser or two around it. Not just around it where i fly by. But a cruiser so close that it aa is firing on my planes throughout the drop and the retreat.

. Once a cv does that once we usually wont do it again.

just turn sharp into a circle and keep the circle. Dont turn out of it. Bb are to slow to maneuver, so stay tucked into the circle. Yes i will still get a few torps in u. But if u come oit of that turn i will land more than a few. Even a dd has aa that i would rather not deal with. I go to next bb that is alone. And theres alot of lone rangers.

all others just point towards or away from planes as soon as possible.

. The sooner u show me that u are willing and able to fight my torps amd planes, i will pick another target asap. There isnt much time, and theres always other that arent aware of whats going on. Dont be that guy.

 

[SPACEDUDE71]

Listen. No one flies planes into a fleet of ships. If they do they die. Or the torp spread is aweful. Only reason u get torped is because there is no team play. If this was a round with a caller, the carrier is basically useless, but for a scout. Once teams have a caller and they keep shiips together, torp planes will be useless.

 

[enderland07]

Time for a little rant! Chasing a DD in my Omaha, and I am just about to finish him off when...all of the sudden I see a squad of torp bombers coming for me! I try to maneuver to a position so that I can dodge the inevitable torp spread headed my way but to no avail! The CV captain just does a manual drop and two of the torps hit me, killing me, and costing my team the game!  I know the BBs have it worse, but how in the world do you defend against a manual torp drop at tier 5 with no AA?!?  Anyway thanks for listening, and I appreciate any tips!

 

Pay very close attention to the planes within 10km of you and be aware of those further out.

 

I rarely get TB'ed in USN battleships which are much less maneuverable than the Omaha.

[Carl]

 This is a good time to learn something. Tunnel visioning is the #1 source of "CVs are OP!!" complaints.

 

No good CV drivers who know how to point blank drop are the source of CV are OP complaints. a good CV driver can put the majority of torps into anything that doesn't have defensive fire active.

 

Fortunately  such good CV drivers are rare.

[ArmouredCarriers]

Evading is your best option, for sure. When they get within 10 clicks, it's time to turn towards or away from them...

 

But, at higher tiers, with carrier drivers with multiple torpedo squadrons ... There is nothing you can do to dodge a well-laid pattern coming at you from multiple directions.

Not even destroyers.

 

I guess the question is: How easy is it to lay that pattern?

 

If it takes skill and timing: Then that's fine by me - It's no different to multiple hits from a well-placed broadside (other than a guaranteed sinking).

 

If it's formulaic, then I have a problem.

 

Fact is: Battleships are vulnerable to aircraft. That - and their inability to catch targets - is why they went extinct.

If such elements aren't in the game, then this game will become even less than arcade...

[Skpstr]

 but how in the world do you defend against a manual torp drop at tier 5 with no AA?!?  

 

Omaha C hull has good AA for its tier. If you maneuver constantly as they get close, they have to keep moving around, and your AA should be putting a hurting on them.

 

If you chose the B hull for the extra guns and torps, you only have yourself to blame for lack of AA.

[MrDeaf]

 

I see them from 10-20km away depending on team arrangement, are you even looking?

 

Planes are not hard to spot at all.

 

Yeah, I'm looking. But there are some maps where I think the spotting mechanic is broken.

I'm looking at the horizon, and then suddenly those bombers pop out from 6.5~8km, because the CV on my team isn't actively screening against their bombers.

 

I've noticed this happen a lot on two brothers. I think it's that mountain that cuts off LoS.

[SPACEDUDE71]

So the best advice to avoid the torps is to stay with other ships tjat have aa

[Xenomancers]

Prepare for it to get a lot worse...and by a lot worse I mean A LOT worse. Every tier planes get faster and more numerous and CV skill goes up. Basically every time a CV doesn't get at least 2 IJN or 3 USN torps on target - unless there was a defensive AA barrage - it is an absolute failure comparable to crashing into an island. CV's are automatic damage - all you can do is mitigate their strikes to just massive damage rather than getting sunk. Some think this is fair. Most agree it's [edited].

[IceSerpen7]

Time for a little rant! Chasing a DD in my Omaha, and I am just about to finish him off when...all of the sudden I see a squad of torp bombers coming for me! I try to maneuver to a position so that I can dodge the inevitable torp spread headed my way but to no avail! The CV captain just does a manual drop and two of the torps hit me, killing me, and costing my team the game!  I know the BBs have it worse, but how in the world do you defend against a manual torp drop at tier 5 with no AA?!?  Anyway thanks for listening, and I appreciate any tips!

 

1. Turn your bow or stern towards the bombers, preferably before they drop their payload. If you spot them too late (i.e. they are already doing their little torp-dropping "dance"), also hit full reverse at the start of your turn - it messes up their lead. After you spot the torps themselves, maneuver a bit so that you go between them, then shift into forward gear again. If you have trouble maneuvering just right, cut your speed prior to the turn - I mean aside from reverse trick, you may need to set your speed to 3/4 or 1/2 when bombers are nearby, whatever lets you comfortably get between the torps.

2. Omaha has good AA and its own float plane, use them. Sometimes I actively chase bombers around if they are somewhat close (~7km or so) and I don't have anything better to do - no DDs spotted and no other targets in range yet.