10 [MB69] marlbororeds Beta Testers 11 posts 2,118 battles Report post #1 Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) OK, so i finally got to my NC and now...even when i DON'T get sunk, im sitting at 16K money, worked my way back to to 68 doing CO OP battles, and low and behold i get hit a few times and when i go back out to port im back down to 12K what is this crap? what? am i NOT supposed to be able to use the ship i spent HOURS grinding too with OUT giving them money? i mean this IS supposed to be a free to play game is it not? now its almost as they are FORCING people to get premium so they can keep progressing....look at it this way with premium yeah you can make lots of money, but WITHOUT premium i don't even make HALF the money it coasts to repair my NC even if i do well....i mean 155k to repair a ship? what kind of [edited][edited]is that? yes i know they need to make money...but if you are going to make a free to play game DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT PULL THIS crap.....devs " oh yes it is a free to play game but if you are not giving us money fuk you" i mean they made an awesome game MUCH better then WOT but in terms of them treating people who CAN NOT AFFORD to keep buying premium it is SO MUCH WORSE....they either need to LOWER the price of repairs OR make it that if you DO NOT get sunk you do not have to pay a repair bill....this is getting ludacris i want to play my NC but i can not make ANY money to progress. I seriously hope that they change this or you will see people leaving in droves just like what happened in War Thunder.....FIX IT DEVS Edited October 5, 2015 by marlbororeds 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,108 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #2 Posted October 5, 2015 pay attention to what getting sunk costs you per tier per ship type 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56 _Ezekiel_ Beta Testers 342 posts 7,909 battles Report post #3 Posted October 5, 2015 That's how the economy works. You didn't enjoy a single ship between Tier 1-7 that you wouldn't mind keeping & using to get silver? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 [MB69] marlbororeds Beta Testers 11 posts 2,118 battles Report post #4 Posted October 5, 2015 wow, you two COMPLETELY missed the point 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,319 suleiman71 -Members- 6,960 posts 10,623 battles Report post #5 Posted October 5, 2015 wow, you two COMPLETELY missed the point Sorry to break it to you, but it's how the economy works. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
457 [GOAT] BGrey Beta Testers 1,523 posts 7,150 battles Report post #6 Posted October 5, 2015 PvP rewards are much better than co-op. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,108 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #7 Posted October 5, 2015 wow, you two COMPLETELY missed the point did you figure out the best cheese to go with that?? hint - this game was not designed as a solo experience - so Co-Op is not the intended way 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,661 Macabe Alpha Tester, Members, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 12,413 posts Report post #8 Posted October 5, 2015 You're not supposed to profit at high tiers. Play mid tiers for credits. Otherwise stop whining. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 AspiringCodger Beta Testers 2,029 posts Report post #9 Posted October 5, 2015 Another example of why the neg button should come back. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
573 [SOGGY] Fleet_Admiral_Kolchak Alpha Tester 2,599 posts 5,205 battles Report post #10 Posted October 5, 2015 That's how the economy works. You didn't enjoy a single ship between Tier 1-7 that you wouldn't mind keeping & using to get silver? wow, you two COMPLETELY missed the point No he got the point but did you? You aren't suppose to take a Tier 8 out over and over again. You need to build a stock pile resources to run a high level ship. I have buddies who run Montana's and their costs are pretty astronomical. My recommendation is a Tier 5 ship you enjoy and just earn money man. I do the same with my Kongo (before i found Tirpitz.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
47 [VPG-W] Cuth Beta Testers 110 posts 5,009 battles Report post #11 Posted October 5, 2015 Quit smoking for a week or two and grab a year of premium. $100 is really not a lot of money these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,108 Red_Raven_168 Alpha Tester 17,510 posts Report post #12 Posted October 5, 2015 I have buddies who run Montana's and their costs are pretty astronomical. ask them how much it costs if they get sunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
455 Velled Beta Testers 1,016 posts 13,896 battles Report post #13 Posted October 5, 2015 OK, so i finally got to my NC and now...even when i DON'T get sunk, im sitting at 16K money, worked my way back to to 68 doing CO OP battles, and low and behold i get hit a few times and when i go back out to port im back down to 12K what is this crap? what? am i NOT supposed to be able to use the ship i spent HOURS grinding too with OUT giving them money? i mean this IS supposed to be a free to play game is it not? now its almost as they are FORCING people to get premium so they can keep progressing....look at it this way with premium yeah you can make lots of money, but WITHOUT premium i don't even make HALF the money it coasts to repair my NC even if i do well....i mean 155k to repair a ship? what kind of [edited][edited]is that? yes i know they need to make money...but if you are going to make a free to play game DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT PULL THIS crap.....devs " oh yes it is a free to play game but if you are not giving us money fuk you" i mean they made an awesome game MUCH better then WOT but in terms of them treating people who CAN NOT AFFORD to keep buying premium it is SO MUCH WORSE....they either need to LOWER the price of repairs OR make it that if you DO NOT get sunk you do not have to pay a repair bill....this is getting ludacris i want to play my NC but i can not make ANY money to progress. I seriously hope that they change this or you will see people leaving in droves just like what happened in War Thunder.....FIX IT DEVS They dont need to do anything. WG's system is awesome for keeping the mid tiers populated for newer players and people grinding a new line. If your going to go non premium then you need to play well, and play mid tiers to fund high tier games. News flash.... ALL WG GAMES ARE DESIGNED THIS WAY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
69 [BAGU] IN_GENERAL WoWS Community Contributors 130 posts 7,809 battles Report post #14 Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Although i agree you shouldnt profit at high tiers it still shouldnt be as expensive as it is now. The point of this game is to have an enjoyable experience, supertesters and people with public accounts can play tier 10 with immunity and have fun since they do not have to worry about costs. But lets take it like my tier 10 zao. i stuggled a very long time with lbuki and even then the costs were normally higher than many good battles without 2x. So now i have Zao, the ship i basically grinded for to play, now i understand playing it over and over should net you something in the range of lower tier ships profits nor premium ships. But as it stand you are forced to go play lower tiers to play without 2x. I believe the best economy is where you can net maybe 15-50k if you do alright in tier 10. enough to buy you maybe a camo for next game. if you get completely destroyed, sure you will loose money because honestly you didnt pay attention enough to the position of ships and allies. but it definitely should not be the case where you need about 3 ships destroyed to make 30k. i play all my ships regardless , from my 3 tier 5 premiums to my tier 7 nagato so its not like i stick to one ship completely. i honestly like lower tier games. But when my multiple friends who all are around tier 8 or 9 grinding want to play and i already used my 2x with zao well i usually dont even try because id rather not lose the money i have that i want to get amagi. Edited October 5, 2015 by koolwrench 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #15 Posted October 5, 2015 wow, you two COMPLETELY missed the point Actually, you're missing the point. There are 3 ways to be able to afford to play high tiers, and paying money is only one of them. The other 2 are get better enough at the game to support yourself playing the NC with the NC, or to support yourself playing the NC with mid-tier ships (no reason you can't do it with the NC in Co-op, but as you've discovered, the rewards are bad) like the NY or NM. You seem to have done well enough in them that 100K a match in PvP should be pretty easy. Or use your Omaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
524 SourHammer Alpha Tester 1,907 posts 12,783 battles Report post #16 Posted October 5, 2015 lol wait till you get to tier 10 and see how much each shell you fire costs, now take a few citadel hits and see how much those repairs cost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,319 suleiman71 -Members- 6,960 posts 10,623 battles Report post #17 Posted October 5, 2015 lol wait till you get to tier 10 and see how much each shell you fire costs, now take a few citadel hits and see how much those repairs cost. How much does a single Yamato shell cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
121 [RRC] G0lfSierra1 Beta Testers 838 posts 23,533 battles Report post #18 Posted October 5, 2015 You've played a whopping 6 games in it and already complaining about the cost of repairs? Focus on dealing damage and not dying early as you need to do at least your ships HP worth of damage to run a decent profit from tier 8 up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
26 [SNS] Whiski Members 148 posts 6,055 battles Report post #19 Posted October 5, 2015 Why are you playing Coop with a NC? You will make more in random battles mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
366 [KNTAI] Ms_Makawee Beta Testers 1,293 posts 12,478 battles Report post #20 Posted October 5, 2015 How much does a single Yamato shell cost? It costs $400,000 to fire this weapon... for thirty seconds... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
524 SourHammer Alpha Tester 1,907 posts 12,783 battles Report post #21 Posted October 5, 2015 How much does a single Yamato shell cost? Well lets put it this way, even if you do well in the battle and don't take a lot of damage , you will likely just break even or just a fraction better. You have to do extremely well to make a profit in it. At least that's how it was prior to the last wipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 [MB69] marlbororeds Beta Testers 11 posts 2,118 battles Report post #22 Posted October 5, 2015 i DON'T PLAY CO OP, i HAD TO PLAY IT SO I CAN MAKE AT LEAST SOME MONEY WITH IT, MY PAINT GETS SCRATCHED AND I LOSE ALL MY MONEY, that's my POINT 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
158 0nce Members 347 posts 3,742 battles Report post #23 Posted October 5, 2015 i DON'T PLAY CO OP, i HAD TO PLAY IT SO I CAN MAKE AT LEAST SOME MONEY WITH IT, MY PAINT GETS SCRATCHED AND I LOSE ALL MY MONEY, that's my POINT The game is Free To Play. You think you should be able to easily get all the content for free? WG would go out of business. Either play more low tiers to pay for high tiers or pay a measly $15 for a month of premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 [MB69] marlbororeds Beta Testers 11 posts 2,118 battles Report post #24 Posted October 5, 2015 [Content Moderated - Insults] --Rhonico Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #25 Posted October 5, 2015 All WG titles are designed this way - and it's lazy crap design that sacrifices game balance, player enjoyment, and player retention, and the long term viability of the game for better short term returns and reduced development costs. You get a game that is less fun so that WG can make more money short term, and certain peopel still defend the practice. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
