New German Cruisers and Russian Destroyers videos!

[MagusGerhardt]

 

 

Part one of my three part video series covering the upcoming ships in the new German and Russian tech lines.

This video displays the SMS Dresden, SMS Kolberg, SMS Karlsruhe and the cruiser Königsberg.

 

The display of these ships in action is clear of NDA violation, however I cannot offer statistics, impressions or opinions on these ships at this time so don't ask!

 

Many thanks to the staff at WGNA for allowing the production of this three part first look series.

 

 

Continuation of visual exploration of the new German cruiser line.  This video features ships designed for and used by the Kriegsmarine.

 

Thanks for taking the time to look at my little creation, thumbs up and subscribe if you like what you see!  I'm still learning how to do this, so if there's something you would like to see me try or if there is editing programs my productions could benefit from, let me know!

 

Now, it's time for me to work on some Russkie destroyers!  Da.  Iz time.

 

Good hunting!  

 

Addition:

 

 

RUSSIA STRONK

 

Insert Stalin joke here

 

[BlazerSparta]

Because ship stats totally weren't available before supertesters had their hands on them.

 

And you can't talk about em; we need you to advertise these things, not tell people how much some of them suck, and that they shouldn't waste their time.

[RobertViktor68]

lose the music

 

[BladedPheonix]

no tier 1?

 

[MagusGerhardt]

no tier 1?

 

Tier I Hermelin is included in the second video.  The first is Kaiserlichemarine and Reichsmarine ships.  The Hermelin is Kriegsmarine.  

[MagusGerhardt]

Because ship stats totally weren't available before supertesters had their hands on them.

 

And you can't talk about em; we need you to advertise these things, not tell people how much some of them suck, and that they shouldn't waste their time.

 

Even if there is a prior NDA breach and leaked data is common knowledge does not free me from my contractual obligations.  These ships are being displayed under controlled conditions.  No talky is a restriction I accepted.  

 

lose the music

 

I'm sorry the music wasn't to your liking.  I thought that I should include *something* as I wouldn't be talking during the video and in mashups like this the adaptive music featured in game ends up being schizophrenic when tying video clips together with the in game music.  What would you have preferred?  

[BladedPheonix]

 

Tier I Hermelin is included in the second video.  The first is Kaiserlichemarine and Reichsmarine ships.  The Hermelin is Kriegsmarine.  

 

ah ok. LOL darn thought that first ship on video 2 was a tier 2 premium ship! though this does raise another question....why didn't you put the tier 1 in the first video?

[Elysion]

Because ship stats totally weren't available before supertesters had their hands on them.

 

And you can't talk about em; we need you to advertise these things, not tell people how much some of them suck, and that they shouldn't waste their time.

 

The government officially acknowledges area 51s existence now, but people under NDA still cant admit it exists. They could probably stand right in front of it, while the president is there, welcoming everyone to take a guided tour of area 51, and still not be able to confirm its existence. They could go on the tour, visit the gift shop, get a cool alien hat and some space ice creme in full view of hundreds of news cameras, but not be able to admit it exists :^)

 

This is a safety device, while that guy telling you wouldn't be a big deal all things being equal, what else does he know that he cant tell? Will he remember exactly whats public knowledge and whats not? Will something slip? Its safer to just say dont speak of it. In this way the more you know the less you can tell. Know enough about something and you are better off just not talking about it at all.

 

[BladedPheonix]

 

The government officially acknowledges area 51s existence now, but people under NDA still cant admit it exists. They could probably stand right in front of it, while the president is there, welcoming everyone to take a guided tour of area 51, and still not be able to confirm its existence. They could go on the tour, visit the gift shop, get a cool alien hat and some space ice creme in full view of hundreds of news cameras, but not be able to admit it exists :^)

 

This is a safety device, while that guy telling you wouldn't be a big deal all things being equal, what else does he know that he cant tell? Will he remember exactly whats public knowledge and whats not? Will something slip? Its safer to just say dont speak of it. In this way the more you know the less you can tell. Know enough about something and you are better off just not talking about it at all.

 

 

Same thing with the burmuda triangle I hear.

[MagusGerhardt]

 

ah ok. LOL darn thought that first ship on video 2 was a tier 2 premium ship! though this does raise another question....why didn't you put the tier 1 in the first video?

 

Well, it would make sense if I had organized the videos by tier first.  That wasn't the first criteria I had for placing the ships in order of appearance.  Because Germany had three different navies over the course of the 10 tiers in this game I decided to organize them by flag allegiance first, then by what tier they were.

 

The tier I ship is a design from 1939, thus making her a solid Kriegsmarine ship, thus she was put in the second video.  Being the lowest tier out of all Kriegsmarine ships featured, she was first in line, then the tiers II-V are skipped over as they were in the first video which I had assigned for the Kaiser's Navy and the Weimar Republic's Reichsmarine.

 

Hope that clears it up!  

[Cuesta_Rey]

I liked the music just fine. To be frank, my favorite music wouldn't go well with warship context, so I think your choice would and is better then my own.

Very nice videos. Thanks for taking the time to do that.

[MajorRenegade]

the music remind me of the movie XXX. Not a porn movie........... I mean a Spy movie with Xander Cage

[BladedPheonix]

 

Well, it would make sense if I had organized the videos by tier first.  That wasn't the first criteria I had for placing the ships in order of appearance.  Because Germany had three different navies over the course of the 10 tiers in this game I decided to organize them by flag allegiance first, then by what tier they were.

 

The tier I ship is a design from 1939, thus making her a solid Kriegsmarine ship, thus she was put in the second video.  Being the lowest tier out of all Kriegsmarine ships featured, she was first in line, then the tiers II-V are skipped over as they were in the first video which I had assigned for the Kaiser's Navy and the Weimar Republic's Reichsmarine.

 

Hope that clears it up!  

 

aye, that it does, though if probably would've been simpler had you just put the correct flag for the navy they were affiliated with in the top right corner, while still going in order by tier. That's what I'd had done, but its your video/ship, so you do what you think it best!

[MagusGerhardt]

the music remind me of the movie XXX. Not a porn movie........... I mean a Spy movie with Xander Cage

 

Thanks!  Guilty of seeing that one in the theater.  No regrets.  Awesome summer things-blow-up over the top action movie.  I still have "Adrenaline" waiting in the wings to be the soundtrack for something in Warplanes.  The right fight hasn't happened yet.

[MagusGerhardt]

 

aye, that it does, though if probably would've been simpler had you just put the correct flag for the navy they were affiliated with in the top right corner, while still going in order by tier. That's what I'd had done, but its your video/ship, so you do what you think it best!

 

Unfortunately I can't put the flag as an overlay anywhere in a video because it is beyond the function of Windows Live Movie Maker, which is the editing software I use to create these.  I would be perfectly willing to use a different free or low cost alternative if you are aware of one.  I believe I have reached the peak of what I can make with WLMM and would be open to suggestions for something to switch to.

 

You'll be happy to know that my Russian destroyer video that I am currently working on will be presented from tier I to tier X.  

[Oberst1]

 

What a shame, I had been looking forward to this line, but WG left out one of the most Iconic German Armored Cruisers of the Great War, The Scharnhorst Class Armored Cruiser. Launched in 1906 she and her Sister ship Gneisenau were famous as both ships won coveted trophies for excellence in Gunnery, They boasted well trained gunnery officers and gun crews. Both ships became famous for the Battles of Coronel and The Falklands in 1914 where she and her sister were lost but not without putting up a fierce fight against the British Battlecruisers HMS Invincible and Inflexible.

Great Picture of SMS Scharnhorst here.... 

The Scharnhorst would be a great adversary against the USS Saint Louis

I guess we can hope WG will bring this ship into the game perhaps as a premium vessel?

 

[MagusGerhardt]

What a shame, I had been looking forward to this line, but WG left out one of the most Iconic German Armored Cruisers of the Great War, The Scharnhorst Class Armored Cruiser. Launched in 1906 she and her Sister ship Gneisenau were famous as both ships won coveted trophies for excellence in Gunnery, They boasted well trained gunnery officers and gun crews. Both ships became famous for the Battles of Coronel and The Falklands in 1914 where she and her sister were lost but not without putting up a fierce fight against the British Battlecruisers HMS Invincible and Inflexible.

Great Picture of SMS Scharnhorst here.... 

 

The Scharnhorst would be a great adversary against the USS Saint Louis

I guess we can hope WG will bring this ship into the game perhaps as a premium vessel?

 

I've always thought "The Twins" were just as unforgettable in WWI as WWII.  The two of them really represented the pinnacle for Germany's armored cruiser ship designs.  Well, there's also the Blucher, but she was a one-off built based on false leaked information about the HMS Dreadnaught.  I would like so see them in game, but can't speculate on their inclusion due to being an ST.

 

I will disagree with a tier placement of three, though.  Considering the power of her guns, her overall weight and the overengineered nature of her armor layout and compartmentalization of her hull you're dealing with a ship that would have a playstyle like a little battleship.  The best contemporaries for this ship would be the Myogi battlecruiser, the USS Wyoming, the USS Phoenix and the Clemson/Isokaze.  The SMS Scharnhorst is a dangerous enough ship historically that The Twins of WWI deserve that placement.

 

Would buy if released as premium.  

[MagusGerhardt]

Update:  Added the RU DD video to the OP.  Hope you all enjoy!  I used a proprietary video encoding technique to include more Stalin than is physically possible.  

 

[LazyBadger]

Ouch that music choices. But to each his own I reckon.

 

I would suggest spicing it up with your own voice and personality. Otherwise thanks for taking the time to show us a little more of the upcoming line.

[MagusGerhardt]

Ouch that music choices. But to each his own I reckon.

 

I would suggest spicing it up with your own voice and personality. Otherwise thanks for taking the time to show us a little more of the upcoming line.

 

Well, I guess I could have been reading out of a cookbook while recording this, you see, these ships are still in a testing phase even though you will encounter them in the hands of Supertesters on the live server.

 

I and several others were authorized to make these videos...but we couldn't talk about the ships...like, at all.  So, I injected a soundtrack.  

[Eisennagel]

 

I've always thought "The Twins" were just as unforgettable in WWI as WWII.  The two of them really represented the pinnacle for Germany's armored cruiser ship designs.  Well, there's also the Blucher, but she was a one-off built based on false leaked information about the HMS Dreadnaught.  I would like so see them in game, but can't speculate on their inclusion due to being an ST.

 

I will disagree with a tier placement of three, though.  Considering the power of her guns, her overall weight and the overengineered nature of her armor layout and compartmentalization of her hull you're dealing with a ship that would have a playstyle like a little battleship.  The best contemporaries for this ship would be the Myogi battlecruiser, the USS Wyoming, the USS Phoenix and the Clemson/Isokaze.  The SMS Scharnhorst is a dangerous enough ship historically that The Twins of WWI deserve that placement.

 

Would buy if released as premium.  

 

Its difficult to tier though, like all Armored Cruisers.  Slow as heck, no practical AA, as much guns as a heavy cruiser or more, and sometimes even more armored.   How do you tier the SMS Blucher, for example, which has 12 x 8.3" guns and has thicker belt armor in some sections than a Baltimore?  Yet this 16,000 to 17,000 ton baby goes around 25 knots which is fairly fast for an AC.  (This ship is the origin of the game's Yorck's guns, which goes like 5 rounds a minute, each).

 

Armored Cruisers require a different category than "light and heavy cruisers", and I think WG has acknowledged that by not including 11" gunships in the German cruiser line.  For balance and matchmaking, an armored cruiser in one side has to be balanced with an armored cruiser in the opposing team.  If we have to have a German armored cruiser line, even on premiums, I liken it would have to be the same line as the Panzerschiffes, with the Armored Cruisers preceding them, with proposed Panzerschiffes at the top end.  Then the line has to be balanced by armored cruisers in other nations such as the UK, US, IJN and RUS, like the US Tennessee class, topped by "large cruisers" in the top tier, ala Alaska class, Design B-65 and Stalingrad, with crosslines to the heavy cruisers and battlecruisers.

[MagusGerhardt]

The simplest way to think of the large armored cruisers like the Scharnhorst there is to regard them as smaller battleships; that's really what they are in terms of naval combat.  Like a BB they beat up on things that are at their power level or weaker and flee from things that are tougher than they.

 

I have a hard time associating them with the Panzerschiffes as a major feature of the armored cruisers, armor, is sorely lacking in the Dlands and other designs like it.  The Twins of WWI have much more in common with their namesakes from WWII.

[Eisennagel]

 

 

I am not sure if you can regard them as battleships with only 8" guns (those 8.3" guns actually have less shell weight than the typical CA 8" gun).  Furthermore, their armor is still quite thin by battleship standards, and still closer to a cruiser's.  

[MagusGerhardt]

 

 

I am not sure if you can regard them as battleships with only 8" guns (those 8.3" guns actually have less shell weight than the typical CA 8" gun).  Furthermore, their armor is still quite thin by battleship standards, and still closer to a cruiser's.  

 

I'm not going to run to a source right this moment, but I think the cruiser Twins were armed with something like 9.2" main cannons.

[Eisennagel]

 

 

If you are referring to the Scharnhorst class armored cruisers, they are armed with 8.3", like the guns in the real Yorck AC and the fictional ingame Yorck CA, with the slight difference of having a slightly shorter caliber length.  

 

9.2" is something you see with British armored cruisers, though the line started with 6" guns and progressed upward to 9.2".