2 [RN_NA] Fromms Beta Testers 9 posts 2,193 battles Report post #1 Posted October 4, 2015 AMD FX-4350 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard G.Skill Value Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case XFX Core Edition 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer Linksys AE3000-NP 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse I have around a 700 budget. Thoughts on this build. Would it run world of warships at max settings? anything i might upgrade on the list? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 AsseylumAllusia Beta Testers 301 posts 3,080 battles Report post #2 Posted October 4, 2015 Seems like a reasonable build but i have concerns about the GTX 960 and the 4350... For playing Boats it should be fine at max settings but with other games these days i don't see how the 2gb Vram is going to be. for the extra 70 ish dollars i would advise getting the 8350, the extra 4 cores makes a difference... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 catsmoke Beta Testers 730 posts 2,345 battles Report post #3 Posted October 4, 2015 If you're gaming on wi-fi, that's amateur. Non-SSD hard drive is also amateur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
14 polarman Beta Testers 147 posts 5,516 battles Report post #4 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) See if you can move into a intel build. generally quicker and therefore should last longer. This guy above is also correct. Get an SSD aswell. If wired networking is not possible look into some powerline networking, much better than wireless. Edited October 4, 2015 by polarman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,280 [CD47] Moksie Alpha Tester 11,714 posts 25,094 battles Report post #5 Posted October 4, 2015 Seems like a reasonable build but i have concerns about the GTX 960 and the 4350... For playing Boats it should be fine at max settings but with other games these days i don't see how the 2gb Vram is going to be. for the extra 70 ish dollars i would advise getting the 8350, the extra 4 cores makes a difference... Was thinking similar, either that or get an 8320 and overclock it up to the 50+. If you want to get a liquid cooler. Saving 40$ on a chip is one of those things you regret next year, and the next year.... Black Friday sales in 7 weeks I strongly encourage you to wait. Although I did pick up a 250 gig Samsung 850 last night for 80$ WOOT!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
309 Cuesta_Rey Members 1,270 posts 10,068 battles Report post #6 Posted October 4, 2015 As already stated, an SSD makes a HUGE difference. These days, they come fairly cheap, although they are small (for a small price) and cannot store a lot of extras. Just load your main game/s and OS on it, that's it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
403 GiN_nTonic Beta Testers 872 posts 7,346 battles Report post #7 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) I just finished a computer build where I looked for reasonable deals on new hardware - but through craigslist and ebay. I was able to get a six core intel 2011-3 socket system etc etc - titanium nvidia - for 1/2 the price as buying from a retail outlet. I did buy some of my stuff through Newegg, but I'm just saying if you shop hard and can navigate dealing with 2nd hand sources you can save a bundle or get a much better system for your budget. I realize this isn't for everyone...but a suggestion. Edited October 4, 2015 by JlNN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
403 GiN_nTonic Beta Testers 872 posts 7,346 battles Report post #8 Posted October 4, 2015 One last thing - this forum was indispensable for my build, and had I used it earlier I would have saved myself some of the heart-ache I experienced early in my buying process. http://www.tomshardware.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 AsseylumAllusia Beta Testers 301 posts 3,080 battles Report post #9 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) See if you can move into a intel build. generally quicker and therefore should last longer. This guy above is also correct. Get an SSD aswell. If wired networking is not possible look into some powerline networking, much better than wireless. Intel and Amd for gaming purposes a generally pretty close in performance. Edit: As to lasting longer, not always the case, the amd chips get pretty hot compared to the intel counterparts but assuming you have the cooling equipment that can keep up with the output of heat and keep it 'cold' then its going to last just aswell. Edited October 4, 2015 by AsseylumAllusia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167 catsmoke Beta Testers 730 posts 2,345 battles Report post #10 Posted October 4, 2015 One last thing - this forum was indispensable for my build, and had I used it earlier I would have saved myself some of the heart-ache I experienced early in my buying process. http://www.tomshardware.com/ A good forum, but not nearly as good as some of the hardcore gaming hardware forums. I'd try guru3d, majorgeeks, and hardforum, for starters. Forums which specialize in overclocking also have great general hardware guidelines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,280 [CD47] Moksie Alpha Tester 11,714 posts 25,094 battles Report post #11 Posted October 4, 2015 A good forum, but not nearly as good as some of the hardcore gaming hardware forums. I'd try guru3d, majorgeeks, and hardforum, for starters. Forums which specialize in overclocking also have great general hardware guidelines. Overclockers.net is usually an excellent resource, Toms hardware also for more pragmatic views. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
399 Scotty_SE Beta Testers 1,313 posts 12,709 battles Report post #12 Posted October 4, 2015 Some outright lies in this thread, and some good advice. Lets start.... for the extra 70 ish dollars i would advise getting the 8350, the extra 4 cores makes a difference... Uh....no. The 8350 has *THE SAME* per core performance as the 4350. You just pay more money for double the number of cores that will be doing nothing 99.9999999% of the time anyways. Games require per core performance over anything else. There is no magical technology now or in the near future that will make AMD processors with more cores as efficient as Intel ones with fewer cores. Only a few applications, mostly media encoding and video conversion can make use of all those extra cores. Beyond two cores desktop operating systems don't care, and that's what most people don't get. I work with application servers with up to and over 64 cores and have to provision accordingly. I know where multi core is valuable, and desktop gaming isn't one of them. The *problem* with Intel is you need a higher price point for this to make it worth it. An AMD 4350 at ~$100 is a lot of bang per buck for a quad core and will be fine for general gaming. For Intel you typically have to get ~$250 before your money makes a difference with custom builds. Since I respect budgets I see no problem with the AMD rig.., other than people saying 8 cores = 4 cores. It's not a symetrical comparison. SSDs are worth the price. The problem I run into with SSDs though is people get them too small to save money when you should be starting at 500GB. The benefit with gaming and even web surfing is dramatic. GPU are over priced in my book, and you need to be careful spending too much money on cards that are too new and haven't their heat dissipation issues resolved. Both the 960 and 970 are decent in my book depending on your budget. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 [RN_NA] Fromms Beta Testers 9 posts 2,193 battles Report post #13 Posted October 5, 2015 so an SSD and what else do i need? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,280 [CD47] Moksie Alpha Tester 11,714 posts 25,094 battles Report post #14 Posted October 5, 2015 so an SSD and what else do i need? Your ram is either a typo or a mistake bro, you need to buy in pairs 4x2 2x2 2x4 - 2x8 if board can do that, mine can't yours prolly can. Don't waste money on ram, just get decent tight timings. I saved a few bucks and just used intel ram in mine and increased the voltage a tad to suit my board. Otherwise it wouldn't post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 [DOOM] Deterrumeversor [DOOM] Members 345 posts 11,383 battles Report post #15 Posted October 5, 2015 AMD FX-4350 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard G.Skill Value Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case XFX Core Edition 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer Linksys AE3000-NP 802.11a/b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse I have around a 700 budget. Thoughts on this build. Would it run world of warships at max settings? anything i might upgrade on the list? Yes, this will run WoWS on max settings. However, if possible go with a Western Digital or Toshiba HDD, Seagates have reliability issues and you might be replacing it suddenly, and way before you should have to. Western Digital is not any more expensive than Seagate and you will be happier with it in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58 [DOOM] Deterrumeversor [DOOM] Members 345 posts 11,383 battles Report post #16 Posted October 5, 2015 If you're gaming on wi-fi, that's amateur. Non-SSD hard drive is also amateur. Don't be such a troll, he clearly said he was on a budget and your comments were neither constructive or even in good taste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,280 [CD47] Moksie Alpha Tester 11,714 posts 25,094 battles Report post #17 Posted October 5, 2015 Quite happy with my Western Digital 500. Make sure your cache is decent and you might want a 10,000 instead of a 7200 speed. The bigger they are 1.5 terabytes....the slower they get. Don't know much more than that. Other than I had to re port my sata wire every 3-4 months because of lack of communication between chip and drive. Just replaced the wire finally, and so far seems like that was the issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #18 Posted October 5, 2015 Overclockers.net is usually an excellent resource, Toms hardware also for more pragmatic views. I recommend Tom's Hardware too. I used it, and then Partspicker to buy everything. (I had a fixed budget, and the $400 I spent on GPU, mobo, RAM and CPU got me pretty good bang for the buck) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
