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September 11 - Focus: E-boats

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While this thread is definitely not dedicated to it, I'll spend a minute paying my respect to the victims of 9/11 2001. Rest in peace!

For all U-boat fans, a few statistics about them, courtesy of uboat.net. On September 11, 23 Allied ships were confirmed as sunk by U-boats. Of those, only 1 was a warship.

  • 1939: 3

  • 1940: 3

  • 1941: 9

  • 1942: 7

  • 1943: 1
1942
  • HMCS Charlottetown, a Flower-class corvette is sank by U-517, a type-IXC U-boat. The corvette was on her way back from escorting a convoy when she was hit by two torpedoes. Charlottetown was presumably not zigzagging when she was hit, making an easy target. 9 men died, out of a crew of 64. Survivors were picked by HMCS Clayoquot.

Charlottetown was laid down on June 7, 1941, launched on September 10, 1941, and commissioned on December 13, 1941. Her mission was to escort convoys between Quebec City and Sydney (Nova Scotia). It should be noted that two Charlottetown with both the same pennant number (K 244) were commissioned by the Royal Canadian Navy.

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HMCS Charlottetown

 

U-517 was a type IXC U-boat. Laid down on June 5, 1941 (2 days before his victim), she was launched on December 30, 1941, and commissioned on March 21, 1942. She participated in 2 patrols (Including 1 training patrol), and sank 9 ships, including 1 warship (Charlottetown). She was sunk on November 21, 1942, by depth charges from an Albacore aircraft belonging to HMS Victorious. U-517 was already covered (including a video) in the September 7 thread.

1943
  • USS Rowan, a Benham-class destroyer, was sunk on September 11, 1943. Depending on the source, she was either screening enemy transport ships off the coast of Italy, or on her way back to Oran (Algeria), when she was attacked by E-boats. A first torpedo missed the destroyer, but a second one hit her magazine, sinking her in 40 seconds. 202 out of 273 men died.

USS Rowan was laid down on June 25, 1937, launched on May 5, 1938, and commissioned on September 23, 1939. Most of her operational career was spent in the Atlantic, until she joined Allied forces for Operation Torch, the invasion of North Africa. The following document contains declassified information about her fate.

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USS Rowan alongside USS Augusta

10 Benham-class destroyers were built for the US Navy between 1936 and 1939. 2 were lost: USS Rowan and USS Benham, torpedoed during the battle of Guadalcanal.

 

E-boats, or S-boats as they should really be called, were the German counterpart of the US PT boats. Their first operational deployment was during the Spanish Civil War. They subsequently served with the Kriegsmarine and the Regia Marina, but also with the Yugoslavian and Republic of China navies. They are credited for sinking 102 merchant ships and 40 warships, including 12 destroyers. They also damaged 2 cruisers and 5 destroyers, as well as many other smaller ships and boats. There is only 1 S-boat left.

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S-boat

  • On the very same day, USS Savannah, a light cruiser of the Brooklyn-class was hit by a German Fritz glide bomb of the same kind that sank Roma, the Italian battleship.

USS Savannah survives Fritz attack

USS Savannah was laid down on May 31, 1934, launched on May 8, 1937, and commissioned on February 10, 1938. She survived the war, only to be scrapped on January 25, 1966.

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USS Savannah (1944)

7 Brooklyn-class cruisers were built. All survived the war. One of them (General Belgrano) was sunk by the Royal Navy during the Falklands war.

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Why on earth would this be spam? At the very least Ari is sharing WW2 info related to this game AND his topics are of high quality.

If you think you can do something that better fits these forums, feel free to do so!

Anyway, loving these Ari! Keep it up!

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Nice work, but please try to know the date. You are always one day behind. It is the 12th here in Australia. :trollface:  :trollface:  :trollface:

 

jokes

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View PostJeeWeeJ, on 11 September 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

Why on earth would this be spam? At the very least Ari is sharing WW2 info related to this game AND his topics are of high quality.
If you think you can do something that better fits these forums, feel free to do so!
Anyway, loving these Ari! Keep it up!

i fixed you -1,

View PostThoddy, on 11 September 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:


this type of topics appears to me as spam :blink:

simple google ww2 history day for day

http://ww2today.com/

or more special
http://ww2today.com/...man-glider-bomb

well some of us don't know about this stuff and some people


like me


like to read it.

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View Poststealth250, on 11 September 2013 - 10:09 PM, said:

Nice work, but please try to know the date. You are always one day behind. It is the 12th here in Australia. :trollface:  :trollface:  :trollface:

jokes
He posted this on his time. (Here read 10:33PM in my country)
And, as usual, keep up the good work, Ari!

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Why thank you guys!  I try to add a lot more detail than what is found in the articles that depict daily events, but I guess you can't please everybody.  Oh well!

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I didnt say Ariechos posts ar spam I said "The type of topic(meaning presentation) appears to me as spam"

I completely agree that the inital posts contain useful and interesting informations.

 

But one topic per day+some comments, how good the information appears, appears as something above and beyond the goal. As the real discussion topics will be lost in the bulk of "This day in history" topics.

For explanation

There ar 30 topics visible at page one of the Battleship Era

Discussion on warships from the 1890s to the 1950s DISCUSSION board.

Out of the visible topics there ar 7 or so "This day in history"

within one year, if Ariecho hold out as long, one can expect  ca 300 topics of this kind.

 

I would find it useful if the historcal information(no discussion mind you) would be found in a separate thread or would be combined into one topic

 

Sorry for irritations and inconvenience.

Arieche no offense

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View PostThoddy, on 13 September 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

I didnt say Ariechos posts ar spam I said "The type of topic(meaning presentation) appears to me as spam"
I completely agree that the inital posts contain useful and interesting informations.

But one topic per day+some comments, how good the information appears, appears as something above and beyond the goal. As the real discussion topics will be lost in the bulk of "This day in history" topics.
For explanation
There ar 30 topics visible at page one of the Battleship Era
Discussion on warships from the 1890s to the 1950s DISCUSSION board.
Out of the visible topics there ar 7 or so "This day in history"
within one year, if Ariecho hold out as long, one can expect  ca 300 topics of this kind.

I would find it useful if the historcal information(no discussion mind you) would be found in a separate thread or would be combined into one topic

Sorry for irritations and inconvenience.
Arieche no offense
now you came back and apologies.....+1

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I don't plan to give up.  I'll miss some days because of work (such as Monday through Wednesday next week), but I plan to continue.

 

If WG wants to create a sub-category to host these threads, so be it, but I don't think they would.  There are so many other more important things they should do about this forum, including fixing the cursed HTML.

 

If, as you mentioned, all you see in the front page of the Battleship era sub-forum are "today in WW2..." posts, that will just tell you that nobody else is posting.  I think that you don't know the core of our community.  Look at the list of ships covered in the pinned thread.  Between classes and single ships, there is room for a lot more posts about them, and I'm sure that you'll see a lot on the front page.

 

Anyway, explanation welcome, but ... sorry, I plan to keep going.

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