Sovetsky Soyuz

[SimulationX]

Sovetsky Soyuz

plan for massive Russian WWII battleship

http://www.navypedia...ia/ru_bb_17.gif

Laid down in 1938, Sovetsky Soyuz was the lead ship of a class of very large, powerful, modern battleships that ignored the london naval conference tonnage limits. her hull was nearly ready for launching in june 1941 when the German attack on the Soviet Union brought work to a standstill. If she had ben completed, she would have been a match for any battleship afloat. Only the Yamato and Musashi were larger.

Main armarment : 9 X 16 inch guns
Length: 269.4 m
Displacement: 59,150 tones


More info:

http://en.wikipedia....lass_battleship

[Hellsfog]

I wonder if there will be a meta-game which would limit deployment. I'd love to see this try to run out of the Baltic or Black Sea.

[RiversOtter]

Oh my, this ship would be an absolute monster. Would love to see it in game.

 

Cheers.

[ForcestormX]

Huh, hadn't heard of RU super-battleships. Thanks for sharing.

[Semour]

That was a great find .

To bad there were so many complications and never got finished.

[Dominatus]

Excuse my ignorance, but how does this compare to the Stalingrad? Accounting all the technological advancements, that is.

[Goldeneye54]

Haven't heard of it before so thanks for showing.  But to be honest I know almost nothing on Russian ships lol.  I know about US, Japan, Britain, Germany, and even Italy but nothing about Russia at all.

[ForcestormX]

Goldeneye55, on 15 August 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Haven't heard of it before so thanks for showing.  But to be honest I know almost nothing on Russian ships lol.  I know about US, Japan, Britain, Germany, and even Italy but nothing about Russia at all.

Same problem here :(

[Joel47]

THe reason we haven't heard about many Russian ships is that so many of them went unfinished.  Logistics dictated a choice between ships and tanks, and given what was staring at them across Poland, they made the logical choice.

[BlackAngelCom]

Dominatus, on 15 August 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Excuse my ignorance, but how does this compare to the Stalingrad? Accounting all the technological advancements, that is.

No one knows how they would have come together. The Soviets had no real experience building large warships, and that's very, very important for how well the things actually work.

[Guest KGB]

Everyone will have an experience of driving this ship, as well as more powerful one, the Project 24. battleship in our game.

 

Here is it:

http://photo.starnet...roekt_24-50.jpg

[Crag_r]

Ah ha! i knew it! you would try and get a soviet ship to be the most OP in game!

 

Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship; http://en.wikipedia....lass_battleship

[RMS_Gigantic]

Would you mind elaborating on how it is OP instead of just assuming that it is because it's from the Soviet Union?

 

The Project 24 is beautifully designed, by the way. I look forward to seeing its 3D rendering!

[xthetenth]

It's very doubtful it'd be OP, the design displaced a ridiculous amount but it was very inefficient. It's comprehensively beaten by the Iowa and Montana. I'll compare to the Montana because the Iowa buys a lot of speed and getting up to 33 knots is very very expensive in terms of tonnage (in the Iowa design, that and alleviating the cramping from the South Dakotas cost 10,000 tons). The Montana is slightly heavier than the Sovietsky Soyuz. The Montana is better armored (inclined belt and a thicker deck), has a better main battery with three more 16" rifles and the US superheavy 16" shell, a much stronger AA suite, and probably better secondaries (the Sovietsky Soyuz has 6" guns which are nice for hitting destroyers at longer range, but the Montana's 5"/54 guns are already relatively long range, numerous and fire quite quickly). Finally the Montana would have had the best radars in the world and much better range. The Sovietsky Soyuz was the product of a ship design industry that hadn't done serious work of the sort. Even more so than Germany, which at least had some institutional memory of WWI (and still did everything wrong and had no idea what they were doing but I digress), the Soviets weren't going to be able to make a competitive design without using a lot of weight, and the Montana was a project by the best designers in the world for conserving tonnage (the US had always been shaving ounces to hit their tonnage targets and they had a lot of practice hitting tonnage targets since before WWI, and look at the South Dakota for how much they could do under a very restrictive weight limit)

 

The Soviets need the Project 24 so they can have competitive battleships, not OP monsters. Besides, the Yamato's heavier.

[Megan_Fox]

very interesting ship :rolleyes:

[Ariecho]

Here area two pictures that show the Project 24 (top) displayed by KGB with the H44 (center) and the Richelieu (bottom)

 

http://img208.images.../1052599qe3.jpg

 

Again Richelieu (right), H44 (center) and Project 24 (left)

 

[mr3awsome]

That H44 looks boss

[RMS_Gigantic]

mr3awsome, on 19 August 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

That H44 looks boss

Which is why it was stated that the furthest the developers would ever consider going with the Germans would be either the H42 or H43.

[JeeWeeJ]

The H44 also looks like a hard-to-miss target...ITS HUGE!!!!! Still, the Sovetsky Soyuz looks nice...and the Richelieu look as sexy as ever. Now i really want an Alsacre.. :(

[mr3awsome]

I want Alsace too

(see sig)

[Guest KGB]

mr3awsome, on 19 August 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

I want Alsace too
(see sig)

There won't be H44 in game, as well as A150, Tillman BBs and other elven-magic ships.

[cipher12]

So no 20" inch guns in the game then?

[Ariecho]

KGB, on 19 August 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

There won't be H44 in game, as well as A150, Tillman BBs and other elven-magic ships.

Understood!  It just happened to be on the same picture as the Project 24.

[JeeWeeJ]

KGB, on 19 August 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

There won't be H44 in game, as well as A150, Tillman BBs and other elven-magic ships.

[sarcasm] Wait? No ships with 24 16" guns? But...but...that cant be overpowered??? It's not like it'll WTFPWN every BB in sight... :happy: [/sarcasm]

[Guest KGB]

cipher12, on 19 August 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

So no 20" inch guns in the game then?

Yes. 18" is the maximum, so you can expect Yamato and its pre-production projects, as well as any other ship and/or ship project with 18" guns or less. The exception will be made for Germany, because Germans usually made their ships with less number of guns, than other countries.