Yubari: still broken

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

seriously. this thing NEEDS a buff.
 

why?

side on, it has the worst citadel.  giant. weak. 

so you can't show your side.

 

also, your engine and steering are a dime a dozen. easy to kill....MULTIPLE TIMES IN A ROW.

 

ok....so hide your sides. right?

well......that means you lose half your firepower.   thats ok in most ships. but Yubari has a grand total of 4 guns.....in 2 turrets. you lose 1 turret. you really screwed.

 

and keep in mind the engine and steering are dime a dozen. so you give your rear (aka run from the enemy while firing).....you have 2 guns...and can expect ot lose your engine and steering.

 

how about frontally?  first off that means your going toward the enemy, and thats problematic in such a weak ship. with low armor, hp, and fragile everything..

 

Omaha has 4 frontal gun stock. 6 upgraded.....Phoenix has 4 frontal guns....Iwaki and Kuma have 3.   Yubari has 2.......

 

well.....if you going to do a frontal charge. u have good torp arc to narrow your side right?  NOPE. narrow arc. give your flat side to use.

 

 

 

 

well its an AA cruiser right?

with....short range AA that only has a 1 use AA consumable unless u captain skill it. instead of a rechargeable......not even a 2 use from the start....

 

.....

 

 

 

in this video, my engine gets take out 3 times in a row.  steering twice in row.

 

starts off normal game, try AP cause....why not(oh right. 140mm guns....crapAP). and then first enemy shot kills my engine.......  ok....repair cause Yubari can't be showing its side due to its GOD AWFUL citadel.

and....lose engine immediatly.....as well as steering just to rub it in.....

 

ok...good news is my side is hidden.

except...i have 2 guns....in 1 turret.

Omaha has 4 frontal guns....and thats stock. upgraded it has 6!  FRONTALLY.

 

so yeah...major firepower issue there.  why Yubari doesn't have the 6 140mm gun layout....idk.  considering how bad its citadel is...it either needs to lose the citadel. or get the 2 missing 140mm guns back.

 

ok....moving on.

a surprising miss by enemy torps.  

Omaha is thankfully shooting at an ally DD.  and thus i live.  i torp him as he goes on my side.

 

ok....so that happened. lucky.  but dmged....

enemy is still focusing on the ally DD......

 

or not. enemy DD launches torps...i JUST got back my engine after a LONG [edited]repair and finally got my steering thanks to the repair crew....

 

aka i havent been able to get speed.

well...torps take out my engine.....and flood me.....thats game (flooding dmg in a cruiser = death. unlike BBs)

 

 

 

 

 

 

seriously WG.  FIX THE SHIP

 

either give it its 2 missing 140mm guns back

 

 

or make its citadel stronger so it can actually us the guns at the same time (cause they turn slow for such a small ship.   and omaha/phoenix have the same number of guns stock frontally as Yubari does total)

 

(and kuma/iwaki guns turn faster. fire faster.  have more frontal guns. and total guns.  more turrets.  better torp arc. and torp range.)

 

 

and for peets sake.  give that engine/steering a BIT of durability!!!

 

i know this is a DD sized cruiser.  but DDs don't have citadels anymore!  and are stealthy...and sadly have more durability in engine than this.

[Skramjet]

Out of curiosity, is it your thing to not capitalize the words at the beginning of your sentences? I give you the benefit of the doubt an assume it's intentional.

If not, you're supposed to capitalize the first letter in your sentence. I'm not saying I'm good at grammar or anything, but I am curious as to why none of your posts have capital letters to start sentences.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

Out of curiosity, is it your thing to not capitalize the words at the beginning of your sentences? I give you the benefit of the doubt an assume it's intentional.

If not, you're supposed to capitalize the first letter in your sentence. I'm not saying I'm good at grammar or anything, but I am curious as to why none of your posts have capital letters to start sentences.

 

i try to remember. but i end up typing so fast i forget.

 

i usually use word to auto correct that =/

but no auto correct here...

[Skramjet]

 

i try to remember. but i end up typing so fast i forget.

 

i usually use word to auto correct that =/

but no auto correct here...

 

Oh alright. If you end up typing long paragraphs you can type them in word and copy-paste here.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

 

Oh alright. If you end up typing long paragraphs you can type them in word and copy-paste here.

 

i know =(

[ClockworkSpectre]

The Yubari still is sub par for its tier and the "buff" it got at 4.1 is a joke, considering its only one use, when that ability is normally not restricted by number of charges.  I realize they can't do to much to it, its a premium after all, but its in a pretty sad state right now.  Honestly I'd say it may be better off as a tier 3 ship if they insist on keeping it equipped as is. 

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

The Yubari still is sub par for its tier and the "buff" it got at 4.1 is a joke, considering its only one use, when that ability is normally not restricted by number of charges.  I realize they can't do to much to it, its a premium after all, but its in a pretty sad state right now.  Honestly I'd say it may be better off as a tier 3 ship if they insist on keeping it equipped as is. 

 

aye. tier 3 it would work as is.

 

except....no carriers at tier 3.....

[Reiter]

Would this anger driven rant have to do with your death from about 10-15 minutes ago?  Co-Op, see someone get sunk...check again, and was like "OMG! FORUM POSTER!" when I recognized the name.  2 kills, 286 exp for you...not bad, would of had screen shot of your sunken Yubari at the reward screen but my computer is hating me and alt-tab not working correctly ,

[JAKERTANKING]

Out of curiosity, is it your thing to not capitalize the words at the beginning of your sentences? I give you the benefit of the doubt an assume it's intentional.

If not, you're supposed to capitalize the first letter in your sentence. I'm not saying I'm good at grammar or anything, but I am curious as to why none of your posts have capital letters to start sentences.

honestly, when im typing something up on an internet video game forum, capitalizing letters at the beginnings of scentences is the last grammatical thing i worry about.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

Would this anger driven rant have to do with your death from about 10-15 minutes ago?  Co-Op, see someone get sunk...check again, and was like "OMG! FORUM POSTER!" when I recognized the name.  2 kills, 286 exp for you...not bad, would of had screen shot of your sunken Yubari at the reward screen but my computer is hating me and alt-tab not working correctly ,

 

no 10-15 minutes ago was a citadel sink. i'm used to that as it was a Kawachi that showed up at close range. not much i could do.

 

this game was an hour ago. (takes time to record with fraps, compress cause fraps, and upload)

[Bravo_Zulu_000]

Agreed OP. It is way too weak and the buff of 1! AA defense consumable is a joke. It really wasn't able to be proiperly tested during CBT but now it's only asset is it's ability to maneuver... well until a stray shell sneezes on your after deck and takes out your engine and/or steering. 

 

Same goes with the Sims. Seriously high arc of firing and the new choice of longer range yet slowest torpedoes in the game was not a buff.

 

The only good ship out of the package that has proven it's worth is the Gremmy. Funny how that is a stronk Russian ship.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

Agreed OP. It is way too weak and the buff of 1! AA defense consumable is a joke. It really wasn't able to be proiperly tested during CBT but now it's only asset is it's ability to maneuver... well until a stray shell sneezes on your after deck and takes out your engine and/or steering. 

 

Same goes with the Sims. Seriously high arc of firing and the new choice of longer range yet slowest torpedoes in the game was not a buff.

 

The only good ship out of the package that has proven it's worth is the Gremmy. Funny how that is a stronk Russian ship.

 

yep.....murmansk as well....good AA, good torps. amazing top range due to spotter aircraft instead of fighter.

[nineshotwonder]

I once had my Yubari get completely destroyed by one shell from a St. Louis. One shell (last in the volley, the rest missed) landing on the stern of the ship by where the depth charges are modeled took all 18300 hitpoints and sent me back to port. Most of the other games I've had with her haven't gone much better, and most of those games didn't have any CVs in them, making her main strength almost completely worthless. The torpedoes are almost the same, having such a narrow firing arc and short range makes them situational at best.

[x2_Weekends]

+1 to OP, she nailed it on all things bad about Yubari.  Too bad WG devs don't pay attention. 

[Fishrokk]

I've driven mine a grand total of once since OBT.

 

I did get a kill - I think it was a Clemson.  He thought he was going to torp me as we passed each other in the narrow channel between two islands on the east side of Fault Line (I was headed west, he came in from the east).  Of course, my guns weren't enough to take him, but my bow did the trick.  I made it out of the channel, think I might have even lasted a couple more minutes after that, but it wasn't long or glorious (at least, not after ramming a same tier DD).

[Jahona]

For some reason when I first got her in CBT I liked her.  The few games I played with her during open beta I just end up sitting in one spot as my engine is dead and every time I repair it gets shot out again.  I feel going down to T3 would make her performance better but her armor would still be an issue.

[DoomStomper]

Premium_Cruiser_Witch_Tomoko has a point.    Seriously though, the poor thing still needs all the help it can get.

 

I suspect the reason we STILL can't view models for armor concentration, citadel/module hitboxes, etc in game is that WG isn't ready to get called out on more B.S...  I can't really comment on the citadel location until we have access to such information, but they could at least fix its DD-like susceptibility to engine crits.

 

As far as I can tell, the torpedo arc unfortunately looks accurate.  They could at least give them a bit more range, as showing enough side to actually fire them at a halfway aware enemy is suicidal.  The only ships I remember killing with Yubari torps are either AFK or carriers.

 

I wouldn't support loosing that puny DP gun, however, as that's the only thing that qualifies Yubari for Defensive Fire, which keeps with its intended AA role.  Speaking of which, it's silly that it's the only cruiser that gets limited uses for an ability that's supposed to be its primary selling point.  This wouldn't be as overpowered as some might think against the limited plane reserves of low tier carriers, either.  Unless something has changed, Defensive Fire only increases the DPS of large caliber DP (AAA) batteries.  This means that unlike with the Atlanta (with 16 DP guns) it hardly affects the DPS of the Yubari with its 1 applicable gun.  The main benefit is to increase the spread of enemy strike planes, making it viable in an AA escort role.  

 

 Another thing.  Even with its current 1 or 2 uses, the Yubari for some reason allows you to equip the premium AA consumable...for no reason.  I've tested that this has ZERO effect, and doesn't even reduce the time between all 2(!) charges when you have a Superintendent-skilled captain...

[DoomStomper]

honestly, when im typing something up on an internet video game forum, capitalizing letters at the beginnings of scentences is the last grammatical thing i worry about.

 

Meh.  I'm more anal about grammar than I should be, but mistakes still happen since 95% of my posts are from a smartphone at work. (Way too much downtime) The only thing that sucks is trying to compose a decent statement, only to realize that 5 other people already said the same thing by the time I hit Post...

 

[BnaditCorps]

Out of curiosity, is it your thing to not capitalize the words at the beginning of your sentences? I give you the benefit of the doubt an assume it's intentional.

If not, you're supposed to capitalize the first letter in your sentence. I'm not saying I'm good at grammar or anything, but I am curious as to why none of your posts have capital letters to start sentences.

 

b/c the forums don't have a auto correct for it

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

 https://mega.nz/#!u1ET1IKa!eVnvm8VPVXlayEKyj1YPoDt9OwuGZMClbfyqe5xycZw

 

 

 

when i say you get citadel hit from any angle

 

i mean ANY angle.

 

in this replay. things were going GREAT.  15 AA kills (not legit ones...i killed the carrier and sat under them for a while)

 

and then later when i went to defend a cap. Kongo blows me up  (shot flew over my front. i was directly facing them.   hit my aft. and citadeled)

[Jekub]

 https://mega.nz/#!u1ET1IKa!eVnvm8VPVXlayEKyj1YPoDt9OwuGZMClbfyqe5xycZw

 

 

 

when i say you get citadel hit from any angle

 

i mean ANY angle.

 

in this replay. things were going GREAT.  15 AA kills (not legit ones...i killed the carrier and sat under them for a while)

 

and then later when i went to defend a cap. Kongo blows me up  (shot flew over my front. i was directly facing them.   hit my aft. and citadeled)

 

The Citadel seems to extend about 8 feet from either side of the ship, I can't remember how many times I've been shot at be a 2 gun turret, seen the shells land either side of me but still been blown up! while sailing directly at the ship that's firing at me!

[Helstrem]

I just had a game, was a draw but a pretty good one, one BB sunk, 11 aircraft downed.

 

However, the very first hit I took did not remove a single hit point from my Yubari, but it did take out my engine....

 

Not sure how that is supposed to happen...

 

Methinks the "engine" hitbox extends outside of the Yubari's hull.  Earlier today I took a hit to my bow and lost the engine as well.

[Lunarrise]

I've also had a hit that didn't do any hit point damage but knocked out the engine.

[JohnPaul_Jones]

I actually think the ship was fine before and after the buff. Its maneuverability negates most the issues I am seeing on here. Yes, I wish there was a couple buffs to things, but I would not say its awful the way it is. I wish the torp arc was bigger. It would be nice to have a third turret (Not sure how historic it would be) Also would like one more charge for the AA Buff. That's nit picking however. The only thing I think the patch did to hurt the Yabari was the CV MM balance. Due to the change, their will always be CV's going head to head, and in the early tiers, they just deal with each other. So the best thing the Yabari has going for it is the AA, and you pretty much never see planes because your CV already intercepted and killed them. LOL Basically, your CV has to die early for you to have a GREAT game with AA.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

I actually think the ship was fine before and after the buff. Its maneuverability negates most the issues I am seeing on here. Yes, I wish there was a couple buffs to things, but I would not say its awful the way it is. I wish the torp arc was bigger. It would be nice to have a third turret (Not sure how historic it would be) Also would like one more charge for the AA Buff. That's nit picking however. The only thing I think the patch did to hurt the Yabari was the CV MM balance. Due to the change, their will always be CV's going head to head, and in the early tiers, they just deal with each other. So the best thing the Yabari has going for it is the AA, and you pretty much never see planes because your CV already intercepted and killed them. LOL Basically, your CV has to die early for you to have a GREAT game with AA.

 

or you need to have a CV =/

 

no CV in game = Yubari liability compared to Iwaki, kuma, or phoenix.

 

thats the problem with being a 1 use ship. and is why Atlanta being a flamethrower(not with fire. but with HE) makes it work even without aircraft to kill