To all you complaining about cost of tier 8+

[SteelClaw]

Welcome to the world of free gaming. The tier 8+ ships is where WG in a way is forcing people to buy a premium account and a premium ship in order to support their higher tier ships. WG is out to make money and has to have a point where people must spend money or they will go out of biz and there will be no free game.  Even in WoT most players stick around the tier 4-6 area because tier 8+ is costly to run. Most of us WoT players were well aware that this would be the case here also. 

[Doutech]

This is why a) you keep low-mid tier ships to make money and b) you don't free xp through ships without the skills to play in high tier games and give out free "first blood" flags.

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

Welcome to the world of free gaming. The tier 8+ ships is where WG in a way is forcing people to buy a premium account and a premium ship in order to support their higher tier ships. WG is out to make money and has to have a point where people must spend money or they will go out of biz and there will be no free game.  Even in WoT most players stick around the tier 4-6 area because tier 8+ is costly to run. Most of us WoT players were well aware that this would be the case here also. 

 

actually most people are at tier 6-8 in WoT

because tier 8 prems give a very good profit and rarely go negative.

tier 7 is nicely profitable with no prem account required

and tier 6 needs no effort to bring in a profit.

 

in WoWS,  tier 8 normal ships are equal to tier 9 or 10 tanks in WoWS in how hard it is to profit. 

 

and heres the thing. look at repair costs 

 

tier 7 for cruiser is 45k-60k.

tier 8 is 90k for mogami.  ok thats doable..but big spike in cost.

tier 9 is....150-190k.....thats a major increase in repair cost. its doable....but its a concerning spike

tier 10 is 350k.   at this point people are drawing comparisons with tier 10 WoT.  but finding tier 10 WoT WAY more profitable.   

 

the spike in repair cost is a nightmare.  and thats cruisers

 

what is it like for BBs.....how much for DDs?

 

 

[suleiman71]

This what happens with tier 8+:
 

-You're good, you don't have a problem usually

-You aren't the best, you have to use your stronk Marblehead and Murmansk to fund your high tier play.

 

It's in all WG games. 

[suleiman71]

 

actually most people are at tier 6-8 in WoT

because tier 8 prems give a very good profit and rarely go negative.

tier 7 is nicely profitable with no prem account required

and tier 6 needs no effort to bring in a profit.

 

in WoWS,  tier 8 normal ships are equal to tier 9 or 10 tanks in WoWS in how hard it is to profit. 

 

and heres the thing. look at repair costs 

 

tier 7 for cruiser is 45k-60k.

tier 8 is 90k for mogami.  ok thats doable..but big spike in cost.

tier 9 is....150-190k.....thats a major increase in repair cost. its doable....but its a concerning spike

tier 10 is 350k.   at this point people are drawing comparisons with tier 10 WoT.  but finding tier 10 WoT WAY more profitable.   

 

the spike in repair cost is a nightmare.

 

 

 

Yeah.

 

Also, you can't make money at tier 6 if somebody kills you early. (ex. Fuso or Kongo decides to use light years long range to shoot you from 21km)

[IronWolfV]

 

actually most people are at tier 6-8 in WoT

because tier 8 prems give a very good profit and rarely go negative.

tier 7 is nicely profitable with no prem account required

and tier 6 needs no effort to bring in a profit.

 

in WoWS,  tier 8 normal ships are equal to tier 9 or 10 tanks in WoWS in how hard it is to profit. 

 

and heres the thing. look at repair costs 

 

tier 7 for cruiser is 45k-60k.

tier 8 is 90k for mogami.  ok thats doable..but big spike in cost.

tier 9 is....150-190k.....thats a major increase in repair cost. its doable....but its a concerning spike

tier 10 is 350k.   at this point people are drawing comparisons with tier 10 WoT.  but finding tier 10 WoT WAY more profitable.   

 

the spike in repair cost is a nightmare.  and thats cruisers

 

what is it like for BBs.....how much for DDs?

 

 

 

Agreed. The climb has to be there but the jump is way too high

[Poxo234]

 

Yeah.

 

Also, you can't make money at tier 6 if somebody kills you early. (ex. Fuso or Kongo decides to use light years long range to shoot you from 21km)

 

Whoa whoa whoa, if you get hit at 21k from a BB its your own damn fault.  Try not going one speed and not altering.  There is no reason you should get hit at 21k unless you are still loading (damn loading curse for some people)

[Strike_Witch_Tomoko]

 

Agreed. The climb has to be there but the jump is way too high

 

so if we consider tier 7 the start. 45-60.

 

and tier 9 the tier 10.   190k.

 

tier 8 would be......about where it is.

and tier 9 would be around 120-160k

 

which works for me.   350k is to freakin scary

 

Whoa whoa whoa, if you get hit at 21k from a BB its your own damn fault.  Try not going one speed and not altering.  There is no reason you should get hit at 21k unless you are still loading (damn loading curse for some people)

 

you'd be surprised......

BB dispertion is so big that dodging can still put you in their line of fire.   a miss at the target spot ends up hitting elsewhere.

 

and a BB can rip through a citadel of a cruiser at any angle provided it hits the right area.

[SpenzOT]

If it was just repairs plus ammunition/consumables, I don't think the prices would be that bad.  The problem is that added service fee that is what, 100k?  150k?   Maybe that is a bot prevention system, to keep them from making any sort of profit in coop.  Who knows.  All I know is that even if I have a great game in my tier 10 and manage to not take any real damage (doable in the Yamato but very difficult in the Zao), I still get punished.

[IronWolfV]

 

so if we consider tier 7 the start. 45-60.

 

and tier 9 the tier 10.   190k.

 

tier 8 would be......about where it is.

and tier 9 would be around 120-160k

 

which works for me.   350k is to freakin scary

 

Tier 10 should be around 200K. Enough to where if you play well you can break even or make a small profit just like in tanks.

[Bravo_Zulu_000]

 

Yeah.

 

Also, you can't make money at tier 6 if somebody kills you early. (ex. Fuso or Kongo decides to use light years long range to shoot you from 21km)

 

It's pretty easy to evade incoming fire from that distance if you're aware of what is going on around you and not steering straight all the time. 

[QuantumEntropy]

T8 is not that bad , the Mogami cost was like 90 100k if you got sunked and got like 150 180k in decent games with no premium

But T9 its insane , even if you dont get hit your repair bill is 50k, did not get hit even once in a game with the ibuki and the repair cost was 48k and i erned 90-ish k and if you die 180k - 190k out of your virtual poket instant

T10 its almost impossible to get money off , the repair cost of a Zao is 250k ish

 

But i have the Russian Stronk Murmansk that makes credits like butter, easy 100 - 200k credits almost every game and the repair cost is like 10k-13k ish if you swim with the kraken

[SunTzu71]

I have no problem making money in my Zao... With a repair bill of ~260k. I get about 50k profit each game on average, some more than that, and some I lose about 30k credits. I don't see a problem. Suck it up people.

 

Here's a suggestion for those who are whining about the repair bill... Perhaps don't YOLO and die every game?

[suleiman71]

 

Whoa whoa whoa, if you get hit at 21k from a BB its your own damn fault.  Try not going one speed and not altering.  There is no reason you should get hit at 21k unless you are still loading (damn loading curse for some people)

 

I've seen it happen. It's never actually happened to me because many BB players can't hit from that range, I'm actually one of the people hitting unsuspecting enemies across the map early in the game. 

[IronWolfV]

I have no problem making money in my Zao... With a repair bill of ~260k. I get about 50k profit each game on average, some more than that, and some I lose about 30k credits. I don't see a problem. Suck it up people.

 

Here's a suggestion for those who are whining about the repair bill... Perhaps don't YOLO and die every game?

 

Not even yolo, you can try and do everything right and still get blasted off the map.

[BlackBeard1987]

Hahaha.. I rather pay a one time fee of $60 like any other game and not have to spend hundreds or even thousands like some do to keep playing... (not that I do)

[QuantumEntropy]

 

I've seen it happen. It's never actually happened to me because many BB players can't hit from that range, I'm actually one of the people hitting unsuspecting enemies across the map early in the game. 

 

There are good bb players and bad ones , got one shoted from 19-20k from a BB when i just started playing the Mogami and just today a New Mex could not hit me even once from 12km to 7km, untill he died, i had the Murmansk , he started swearing at me cause the game was broken

 

BlackBeard is right

[Francois424]

Welcome to the world of free gaming. The tier 8+ ships is where WG in a way is forcing people to buy a premium account and a premium ship in order to support their higher tier ships. WG is out to make money and has to have a point where people must spend money or they will go out of biz and there will be no free game.  Even in WoT most players stick around the tier 4-6 area because tier 8+ is costly to run. Most of us WoT players were well aware that this would be the case here also. 

 

While I completely agree with the gameplay model being used (a fine balance with the "pay to win" vs "free to play"), there's a limit on how one can go and push it down the throat of it's customers.

Either players don't play the high tier much if at all,

 -- or it promotes boring gameplay (to me) of who can shoot the other while staying hidden/at maximum range the whole game (hence why I prefer low tier matches, not because I could not afford it but because seeing how it is played, I have absolutely no drives to grind and go there anymore.

 

 

Much like players always adapt to a game, no matter how broken/unbalanced it might be.  The current T9-10 gameplay reflects that.

[suleiman71]

 

There are good bb players and bad ones , got one shoted from 19-20k from a BB when i just started playing the Mogami and just today a New Mex could not hit me even once from 12km to 7km, untill he died, i had the Murmansk , he started swearing at me cause the game was broken

 

BlackBeard is right

 

lol RNG can change at any time.

[BarbedWireRat]

 

Tier 10 should be around 200K. Enough to where if you play well you can break even or make a small profit just like in tanks.

 

surely that woukd make many people happy....but we would still be seeing the same topics get posted only the complaints would focus on T9+ instead of T8+.  

[QuantumEntropy]

 

lol RNG can change at any time.

 

I know but it takes some skill just to hit at 20km range and not that much skill to hit something at 7km , but you're right RNJesus has a big part in this game

[KurganSPK]

Welcome to the world of free gaming. The tier 8+ ships is where WG in a way is forcing people to buy a premium account and a premium ship in order to support their higher tier ships. WG is out to make money and has to have a point where people must spend money or they will go out of biz and there will be no free game.  Even in WoT most players stick around the tier 4-6 area because tier 8+ is costly to run. Most of us WoT players were well aware that this would be the case here also. 

 

welcome to we know this already: but many of us still think the costs are out of whack at upper tiers, compared to WOT. 

[QuantumEntropy]

 

welcome to we know this already: but many of us still think the costs are out of whack at upper tiers, compared to WOT. 

 

This is why the MM is broken at higher tiers but they dont understand maybe , cause not everybody has premium and can keep up the cost of a tier 9-10 ship

It happens to get one shoted by a DD or CV or BB or Aliens and you will pay the 250 350k bill for a tier 10 for nothing, This is why high tier games are boring and ends in draws or the queue is insane

[KurganSPK]

 

This is why the MM is broken at higher tiers but they dont understand maybe , cause not everybody has premium and can keep up the cost of a tier 9-10 ship

It happens to get one shoted by a DD or CV or BB or Aliens and you will pay the 250 350k bill for a tier 10 for nothing, This is why high tier games are boring and ends in draws or the queue is insane

 

Yeah in WOT it doesn't hurt nearly as much at T8-10 to get rek'd.... it should hurt, but not this much. And the module costs are insane too I think. But it is, what it is. I will just play fewer ships more often compared to WOT, which may be a good thing in the long run. We shall see. 

 

[RecksRacer]

Welcome to the world of free gaming. The tier 8+ ships is where WG in a way is forcing people to buy a premium account and a premium ship in order to support their higher tier ships. WG is out to make money and has to have a point where people must spend money or they will go out of biz and there will be no free game.  Even in WoT most players stick around the tier 4-6 area because tier 8+ is costly to run. Most of us WoT players were well aware that this would be the case here also. 

 

Maybe you play for free, but i pay for premium...It seems like you have to both pay for premium access AND buy a premium ship to keep credits flowing past tier 8...too much like an extra job than a game to me.