What the hell am I to do with the Colorado ???

[slashman2015]

I just got this "Battle Ship" after many many hours of grinding which for the most part was fun as hell.

I was expecting a ship to be slightly less capable than my New Mexico at first but nothing like this.

 

Way Less Hit Points

Less Guns

Less Accurate Guns

Slower Turning Turrets

Terrible Turning performance

Armor feels thin

 

I'm not sure what the point of this Tier, even after all the upgrades this will be worse than T6. I had a hell of a fun time playing, but

I don't see the point grinding 100+ games in this piece of junk and I think it's obvious they want you to buy in game gold to convert XP to push through this tier. 

The worst part of it is I now get matched up vs T10 Yamato\Montana's every second match and I can't even get a hit before I go boom.

I'm going to go back to my New Mexico and play for fun and not renew premium as I now have no need for it. 

 

 

[Alphabloom]

free xp sink 

[Carrier_Taiyo]

So, you discovered the Colorado. Sorry to hear it

 

[mohawkdriver]

Something to look forward to.  Can't wait.

 

[NorthernMonster]

They call it the Trolladro

[slashman2015]

They call it the Trolladro

 

Yeah I can't really understand the purpose of this ship. I understand the need to make the game last and for it not to be finished(T10) in a matter of days, I am fine with grinds so long as it's fun and enjoyable. There is literally nothing about this T7 that makes me want to log in. The ship pisses me off so much I don't even want to play WoWs any longer. I didn't expect to get to T7 and be some bad [edited], but in half the games the ship can't even get to a fight let alone score a single hit before some Montana blows me up. The fights I do get in are with T4-T6 ships and I get wrecked. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say I could set my Auto Pilot for the enemy CAP in every game and be just as effective as if I was at the controls 

 

I guess the reason I'm blathering about this is I liked WoWs and if this isn't fixed before live a lot of people will end up complaining\quitting and that's not good for anyone. The average player accepts grinds that are entertaining, but when you turn that grind into a chore they will find a new game. 

[Taichunger]

The Colorado is there to provide free XP for your opponents.

 

I started getting more hits after I slowed to half speed and made sure I was going straight, not turning, since this appears to reduce dispersion. However, lots of people disagree with that statement. Perhaps going slow and focusing on hitting was enough to increase my hit rates.  

 

I suffered a pile of games in that piece of crap, so i totally sympathize....
 

Taichunger

[slashman2015]

The Colorado is there to provide free XP for your opponents.

 

I started getting more hits after I slowed to half speed and made sure I was going straight, not turning, since this appears to reduce dispersion. However, lots of people disagree with that statement. Perhaps going slow and focusing on hitting was enough to increase my hit rates.  

 

I suffered a pile of games in that piece of crap, so i totally sympathize....

 

Taichunger

 

I'm working on getting to T8 but man this ship is something else. i respect that I have 2/3 of the guns of New Mexico but why the heck does every hit bounce off every target? They need to either nerf US BB's T4,5,6 or buff this POS to the moon. It's not fun joining a game knowing no matter what you do, you are not going to be a factor in the match at all!

[Guest]

Just grind through it, get in a division to hopefully help ease the pain slightly, and get to the much superior tier 8. 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Trolorado was designed specifically be so bad that it acts as a Paywall.  You can grind it out by actually playing it like I originally planned to do.  I heard the bad talk about Trolorado while I was finishing up on New Mexico.  But I stuck with all the previous USN BBs and fought it out.  Then I actually got the Trolorado and it's just depressingly bad.  The overall uselessness of this ship is compounded by the fact that it's Tier VII.  Do not be surprised to face off against FAR superior Izumo, Iowa, N.Carolina, Montana, and of course, Yamato to own your [edited].  Even Non-high tier Cruisers will slap the spit out of the Trolorado as it futilely misses its shots and waits an eternity to reload, or tries to drag its fat [edited]around to help bring its slow turrets to bear on the target.  You're just going to get burned down by any [edited]in any Cruiser unless they sit there motionless at short range showing off their broadside.  Even then, I wouldn't be surprised if your Trolorado misses.  Another insult is the speed.  For the fast ships of Tier VII onwards, Trolorado stands out as being a motionless pig.  This ship is so damn awful that I would rather take my Tier VI Elite New Mexico and fight up to Tier X ships.  At least I can HIT something with New Mexico.

 

The final insult?  With hull upgrades, Tier VII Trolorado has 51k hull.  With hull upgrades, Tier VII Nagato, the Trolorado's counterpart, has 65k hull.

 

This ship is a straight up Paywall.  No going around it.  Normal grinding is going to be awful because you'll consistently struggle with very mediocre scores and as a result bad Credits & XPs.  You can FreeXP it out, but rest assured knowing that is *EXACTLY* what WG wanted you to do with this P.O.S. ship.

 

The ONLY saving grace of Trolorado?  The next step is Tier VIII for the ever wonderful North Carolina.

 

Playing the Trolorado, I didn't know what was worse.  The Tier X Yamato or any [edited]with a Cruiser from Tier IV onwards.  Against any target, the Trolorado just struggles.  Oh, and I forgot about DDs.  Those guys must salivate heavily when they see this helpless pig thrashing around.

[JoeBlue]

I'm willing to bet this ship exists merely because they knew the US line would be popular. 

[BullHalsey]

The Colorado is a Tier VI ship, clearly; I still enjoy the South Carolina and the Kawachi, when matched against ships of their own tier or no more than two tiers above.  It is indeed very conspicuous to have the Colorado designated as a Tier VII, which means it finds itself painfully slow, left behind, torched beyond recognition by high tier cruisers and/or ultimately broken in half by torpedos.  I maintain that, on balance, it is far easier for a Tier VI and up blowtorch cruiser to absolutely ruin a Tier VI or under BB in a one on one long range gun duel.  The scenario this presents is about a bad as when I used to regularly find myself in the Kawachi facing Tier VI, but that was still an early Tier III, by the time we've survived through to VII it would be nice to have put most of that behind us.

[Malainse001]

Play it and get the xp to sell it and move forward.... 

 

[BlackAngelCom]

The Colorado is a Tier VI ship, clearly; I still enjoy the South Carolina and the Kawachi, when matched against ships of their own tier or no more than two tiers above.  It is indeed very conspicuous to have the Colorado designated as a Tier VII, which means it finds itself painfully slow, left behind, torched beyond recognition by high tier cruisers and/or ultimately broken in half by torpedos.  I maintain that, on balance, it is far easier for a Tier VI and up blowtorch cruiser to absolutely ruin a Tier VI or under BB in a one on one long range gun duel.  The scenario this presents is about a bad as when I used to regularly find myself in the Kawachi facing Tier VI, but that was still an early Tier III, by the time we've survived through to VII it would be nice to have put most of that behind us.

 

Kawachi is probably the worst in the game. But it has to be really bad to surpass the designed paywalls at Colorado and Izumo. Now, it succeeds in this and does manage to be a free kill for any Tier IV+ BB (lucky to scratch New York paint) and any St. Louis that happens to find it. At least it's not around for long.

 

WG won't improve these ships but if you wanted to make Colorado not garbage, the final hull being a 60k HP West Virginia rebuild would work. This existed and it would be an incremental improvement to North Carolina (still faster with more bigger guns etc.).

 

Izumo...remove it and replace it with a real IJN design (they have a few candidates). 

[MnemonScarlet]

Which is the worse experience, anyway? Izumo or Colorado?

[BlackAngelCom]

Which is the worse experience, anyway? Izumo or Colorado?

 

Colorado and Izumo have comparable armor. Colorado is a Tier 7 with conventional layout and 170,000 required XP (engines+hulls) to advance and intermediate hulls that cost 3.4 million credits.

 

Izumo, has 300,000 required XP on just the hull line and they cost 10 million credits. 

 

[tomcat0870]

From playing against the Colorado in my Nagato i can say that in the right hands the Colorado is a formidable ship. it suffers from the  SSS " stock ship syndrome" the nagato was the same way stock. Once you get the new upgrades for it. it will get better. The stock Nagato has less health than a New Mexico and less health than a Kongo. just stick to it and play it as a support BB instead of a front line BB.

[AutobotMech]

Currently grinding the "Trollonado" myself , 38k atm till I get past it.

I have to say the slower speeds and not turning work for this ship, that being said , those tactics make her a big slower target. But theoretically if we could replace it , what US B.B. could do it ?

 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Currently grinding the "Trollonado" myself , 38k atm till I get past it.

I have to say the slower speeds and not turning work for this ship, that being said , those tactics make her a big slower target. But theoretically if we could replace it , what US B.B. could do it ?

 

Going by history, it can be altered so it will look like this in the higher tier USN BB line:

 

Tier VII - North Carolina

Tier VIII - South Dakota

Tier IX - Iowa

Tier X - Montana

 

Just drop the P.O.S. that is the Trolorado altogether from this game.

[Helstrem]

 

Going by history, it can be altered so it will look like this in the higher tier USN BB line:

 

Tier VII - North Carolina

Tier VIII - South Dakota

Tier IX - Iowa

Tier X - Montana

 

Just drop the P.O.S. that is the Trolorado altogether from this game.

 

Not sufficient differentiation between T.VII and T.VIII in that suggested line.  Not sure North Carolina vs Nagato is very balanced.  I suspect it would be much less balanced than the current Nagato vs Colorado is.  Colorado could likely be fixed just by improving its dispersion.

[HazeGrayUnderway]

 

Not sufficient differentiation between T.VII and T.VIII in that suggested line.  Not sure North Carolina vs Nagato is very balanced.  I suspect it would be much less balanced than the current Nagato vs Colorado is.  Colorado could likely be fixed just by improving its dispersion.

 

Trolorado is a big, huge, bloody, nasty, sucking chest wound in the USN BB line and it needs to be treated ASAP.

[Xenomancers]

Play to the ships strengths. 

 

Strong armor - so angling is crucial.

Strong guns that turn slow - so planning gun direction + angle of attack is very important.

Good secondaries - so getting in close is a great option (plus your high dispersion guns rake citadels at this range)

First USN BB with good range (early alpha)

 

Also - most everyone thinks the ship is super bad when in fact it is only slightly under powered (and really only defensively - offensively this ship is very strong). CA will drive right up to you sometimes and offer you citadels (CRUSH THESE FOOLS). DD's will suicide rush and get wrecked by your secondaries alone (just turn - it works.)

 

This ship is totally grind-able. Take a look at my stats in it if you think you can do it - I am not the best BB pilot around ether.

[slashman2015]

Play to the ships strengths. 

 

Strong armor - so angling is crucial.

Strong guns that turn slow - so planning gun direction + angle of attack is very important.

Good secondaries - so getting in close is a great option (plus your high dispersion guns rake citadels at this range)

First USN BB with good range (early alpha)

 

 

The Armor is not strong at all. Compared to New Mexico and even New York the damage I take at range or up close is staggering.

The guns are not accurate and when I do score a hit at ranges 21-14km the majority of the shells either miss, zero damage, or do base damage. now use HE shells on every target further than 14km and I only use HE against US BBs above T7 because everything else bounces.

 

The ship has no strengths at all. The worst part of the whole colorado experience is the ship is the slowest T7 ship in the game and since half the games are against T8/9/10 I spend 15 minutes following the enemy around until finally someone decides to put some holes in me.